Taro T Posted October 19, 2013 Report Share Posted October 19, 2013 IIRC I'm at $680. $120 on Avs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyldnwoody44 Posted October 20, 2013 Report Share Posted October 20, 2013 Thank you buffalo, up to 1700 now, kinda mad I didn't bet more like I was planning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampD Posted October 20, 2013 Report Share Posted October 20, 2013 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMsa_CBZ3Os Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rakish Posted October 20, 2013 Report Share Posted October 20, 2013 So Ghost, how do hockey gambling odds work? I understand football where the spread makes relatively equivalent betting on each team, but here, as I see other's fantasy bets, all the money went toward Colorado. The Islander game all the money went one way, except yours. Is my perception wrong and it's more balanced than I think, do the odds slide towards game time, or does the money often end on one side? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Dwight Drane Posted October 20, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2013 So Ghost, how do hockey gambling odds work? I understand football where the spread makes relatively equivalent betting on each team, but here, as I see other's fantasy bets, all the money went toward Colorado. The Islander game all the money went one way, except yours. Is my perception wrong and it's more balanced than I think, do the odds slide towards game time, or does the money often end on one side? Here I will not move the line. Some of the games have shifted 20/30 dollars by puck drop, but I try and get an early line up so people have time. Hockey is by far the LEAST bet on "major" sport. In football, it could take a few hundred thousand to even think about moving a line. In hockey, one guy can put 10K down at a place that would actually take it, and things would start moving. Odds always slide towards game time in any sporting event. The "smart" money comes in first, and it comes in last..... I think here there is a lot of betting against Buffalo because people follow them closely and are disgusted. The only reason I took Buffalo against NYI was because of the pattern. They lost 3...ticked up with a point on an OT loss. They lost 3...and I was playing that pattern. They won...then lost. Tonight if I bet, it would have been on Buffalo, because they can't keep the slope of their losses this steep all year. I thought they might catch a double bottom and at least slow the pace of their losing. Now it's literally all bets off. They blow with the likes of Dizzy Gillespie's cheeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rakish Posted October 20, 2013 Report Share Posted October 20, 2013 Using technicals is an interesting approach Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Dwight Drane Posted October 20, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2013 Using technicals is an interesting approach It never occurred to me. Then carpandean started making charts relative to expected playoff barrier about 5 years ago or so, and I started to see patterns that would act much like stock price when charting. It didn't make sense at first as team performance should be effected by different variables such as opponent, injuries, etc.....and stock price can be effected by human emotion or pavlovian reaction to price and technicals. But it definitely had it's place, and the Sabres really seemed to follow technical patterns for some reason. I very rarely wager on hockey, but when I see an arbitrage between the odds and what I deem a favorable technical pattern, that is when I will jump in. You see a lot more financial industry tools being used in sports betting these days. Cantor Fitzgerald developed a futures trading platform years ago that allows for live trading during games. I stay away from it because I know my philosophies and it would be danger city. The UK has allowed exchange betting for years, where the players make the markets. I may think Chicago has no shot at winning the cup and can "short" them to other bettors. It makes for better odds for players, but the vig is reduced dramatically for the host exchange. Hopes are that volume drives up to make up for it. The US has been fighting this for ages. Heck...it's getting so crazy now that I think you can buy credit default swaps on CJ Spiller! Seriously.... Here is the thread from last year...not much action in it. In years past there was more activity. http://forums.sabrespace.com/topic/21575-charts-2012-13-edition/#entry478106 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwksndmonster Posted October 20, 2013 Report Share Posted October 20, 2013 Colorado is at 160....so it's either 160 or 320 I'm at 1300, 640 on Colorado I guess I have to take 160 now. So I'm at 560 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Dwight Drane Posted October 20, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2013 I guess I have to take 160 now. So I'm at 560 Sorry. Check the rules in the first post. I didn't know how many would be involved, so it just makes it a heck of a lot easier to keep score. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted October 21, 2013 Report Share Posted October 21, 2013 I think I was at 750 and I am not at 1050... woot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wjag Posted October 23, 2013 Report Share Posted October 23, 2013 Boston vs Buffalo Boston -175 Buffalo +155 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted October 23, 2013 Report Share Posted October 23, 2013 I'll put $350 on the massholes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico7 Posted October 23, 2013 Report Share Posted October 23, 2013 At $550 175 on Boston Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted October 23, 2013 Report Share Posted October 23, 2013 100 on Buffalo... yea thats right, I am being all crazy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted October 23, 2013 Report Share Posted October 23, 2013 How in the world is Boston only -175? Anyway, 350 on them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cereal Posted October 23, 2013 Report Share Posted October 23, 2013 Great idea. $740 on Detroit, please. Alright, that first one put me at $1400. I'll bet $1300 on the Sabres for tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claude_Verret Posted October 23, 2013 Report Share Posted October 23, 2013 I'm still at $900. $200 on Zadorov......err I mean Buffalo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Assquatch Posted October 23, 2013 Report Share Posted October 23, 2013 Alright, that first one put me at $1400. I'll bet $1300 on the Sabres for tonight. Wow. I'm pulling for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chileanseabass Posted October 23, 2013 Report Share Posted October 23, 2013 I'm at $1160 $200 on Buffalo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwksndmonster Posted October 23, 2013 Report Share Posted October 23, 2013 200 on Buffalo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubkev Posted October 23, 2013 Report Share Posted October 23, 2013 Ok first bet, $200 on Buffalo. I don't like the line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rakish Posted October 23, 2013 Report Share Posted October 23, 2013 In case you missed it, ghost explained his thoughts on using technicals in hockey prediction a few days back. These are the 4 charts I came up with for today, since I don't see a consensus from the charts, I will stay at 950 The x axis indicates seconds starting from the beginning of the season. If I have some time, I will make useful divisions, like maybe by game The y axis is plus and minus goals, or shots. The shot totals include goals, but not misses or blocks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted October 23, 2013 Report Share Posted October 23, 2013 (edited) At $780. $175 on Baaahstan. :sick: EDIT: Dwight, I need a ruling. I fat fingered my Avs bet via my phone and only put $120 on them instead of the intended $160. Did I 'make' $75 or $100? I'm good w/ whatever you decide. If it was only $75, then I am at $755. Edited October 23, 2013 by Taro T Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wjag Posted October 23, 2013 Report Share Posted October 23, 2013 (edited) At 2250. 175 on Boston.... Feels like an OTL or SO loss to me.. They play Boston tough even when they're off. Edited October 23, 2013 by wjag Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattPie Posted October 23, 2013 Report Share Posted October 23, 2013 At $$710, $100 on Buffalo, why not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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