Skibum Posted February 24, 2023 Report Share Posted February 24, 2023 At least there was a proper make-up call (or non-call, rather) on the OT game-winner. I guess that also could have been called as holding the stick on TBL, but it sure looked like a big fat hook by Boosh! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msw2112 Posted February 24, 2023 Report Share Posted February 24, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, Taro T said: The maximum fine ISN'T $5,000. It is 50% of a single day's salary. BUT a 1st fine can only be $10k or less. (Fines of $5k or less have less hurdles to climb to implement.) Players can be fined OR suspended. If they are suspended, they sacrifice their pay while suspended. 1st time offenders sacrifice a day's pay for each game suspended. Repeat offenders lose a game's pay for each game suspended. (So 1st timers lose ~1/187th of their pay for each game suspended and repeat offenders lose 1/82nd of their pay for each game suspended.) Fine money and suspension money go to the players emergency assistance fund. 2 minute cross check was called. Yes, but should have been a 5 minute major and/or be looked at by the league. It was a total cheap shot in the middle of the ice when Dahlin didn't even know he was there. This is far more egregious than a cross check when a defenseman and forward are battling in front of the net or fighting for the puck in corner. In that case, the player getting cross-checked is battling and knows that someone is behind them making contact. They can establish position, push back, brace for the hit, use the boards to absorb some of the hit (if in the corner). In this case, he hit him in the back in open ice and Dahlin had no ability to defend, brace or protect himself. He's very lucky that he didn't sustain a serious injury. Edited February 24, 2023 by msw2112 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drag0nDan Posted February 24, 2023 Report Share Posted February 24, 2023 5 hours ago, tom webster said: What they should be doing is having a hearing for the officiating crew that missed it. I mean - you have toronto looking at a possible delay of game... but you don't for actual penalties? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Night Train Posted February 24, 2023 Report Share Posted February 24, 2023 He's 6-3 230 and purposely hit our team Captain...who happens to have a major past with head shots. No real grey area with intent. That was an ill advised messge directed at the entire team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drag0nDan Posted February 24, 2023 Report Share Posted February 24, 2023 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Skibum said: At least there was a proper make-up call (or non-call, rather) on the OT game-winner. I guess that also could have been called as holding the stick on TBL, but it sure looked like a big fat hook by Boosh! The stick was definitely up, but Stamkos misplayed the puck and then fell over trying to reach for it. Looked like he may have tried to trap the stick and took a dive. Edited February 24, 2023 by Drag0nDan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted February 24, 2023 Report Share Posted February 24, 2023 3 minutes ago, msw2112 said: Yes, but should have been a 5 minute major and/or be looked at by the league. It was a total cheap shot in the middle of the ice when Dahlin didn't even know he was there. This is far more egregious than a cross check when a defenseman and forward are battling in front of the net or fighting for the puck in corner. In that case, the player getting cross-checked is battling and knows that someone is behind them making contact. They can establish position, push back, brace for the hit, use the boards to absorb some of the hit (if in the corner). In this case, he hit him in the back in open ice and Dahlin had no ability to defend, brace or protect himself. He's very lucky that he didn't sustain a serious injury. You won't get disagreement with the bolded here. But it wasn't called a 5 and unfortunately it won't get reviewed by the league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swedish Bikini Team Posted February 24, 2023 Report Share Posted February 24, 2023 3 hours ago, Taro T said: The maximum fine ISN'T $5,000. It is 50% of a single day's salary. BUT a 1st fine can only be $10k or less. (Fines of $5k or less have less hurdles to climb to implement.) Players can be fined OR suspended. If they are suspended, they sacrifice their pay while suspended. 1st time offenders sacrifice a day's pay for each game suspended. Repeat offenders lose a game's pay for each game suspended. (So 1st timers lose ~1/187th of their pay for each game suspended and repeat offenders lose 1/82nd of their pay for each game suspended.) Fine money and suspension money go to the players emergency assistance fund. 2 minute cross check was called. 2 minutes for interference was actually the call Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerreaultForever Posted February 24, 2023 Report Share Posted February 24, 2023 Well I'm glad the league is looking at it. Dirty play but really just a hockey thing that happens a lot. He might get a game or two out of it. I'm not for all this new CBA harsher penalties stuff. I just want the Sabres to become a team that deals with that sort of thing on the ice and maybe dishes out a little of the same back at them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted February 24, 2023 Report Share Posted February 24, 2023 2 minutes ago, Night Train said: He's 6-3 230 and purposely hit our team Captain...who happens to have a major past with head shots. No real grey area with intent. That was an ill advised messge directed at the entire team. He did purposely hit Okposo. Not convinced he expected Kyle to cut back to the middle of the ice. If Kyle stays along the boards, it's simply a clean, hard check that the elbow isn't the primary point of contact and Kyle's chest is the spot where Cernak's shoulder hits him. And have no problem with people believing Cernak did that intentionally. He's been dirty before. Just IMHO he was going for a hard hit there, but not a kill shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted February 24, 2023 Report Share Posted February 24, 2023 2 minutes ago, Swedish Bikini Team said: 2 minutes for interference was actually the call OK. There was a reason for them calling it interference rather than a cross check as somebody else had pointed out. Doesn't change the fact it was actually a cross check in the back. And the specific minor penalty called doesn't change the validity of ANY of the information in the post you quoted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swedish Bikini Team Posted February 24, 2023 Report Share Posted February 24, 2023 2 minutes ago, Taro T said: OK. There was a reason for them calling it interference rather than a cross check as somebody else had pointed out. Doesn't change the fact it was actually a cross check in the back. And the specific minor penalty called doesn't change the validity of ANY of the information in the post you quoted. Not arguing with your post, just clarifying what the call was on the ice. It was a cross check but the ref called interference. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampD Posted February 24, 2023 Report Share Posted February 24, 2023 3 hours ago, K-9 said: It was one of those Stockholm games where Kucherov basically ended Sobotka’s career, too. Also no penalty called. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted February 24, 2023 Report Share Posted February 24, 2023 9 minutes ago, Swedish Bikini Team said: Not arguing with your post, just clarifying what the call was on the ice. It was a cross check but the ref called interference. Thoughts and prayers. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted February 24, 2023 Report Share Posted February 24, 2023 17 minutes ago, PerreaultForever said: Well I'm glad the league is looking at it. Dirty play but really just a hockey thing that happens a lot. He might get a game or two out of it. I'm not for all this new CBA harsher penalties stuff. I just want the Sabres to become a team that deals with that sort of thing on the ice and maybe dishes out a little of the same back at them. Would you feel this way if it was Tage or Dahlin and they were out for the season or career threatening? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Tucker Posted February 24, 2023 Report Share Posted February 24, 2023 5 hours ago, Weave said: Times like these I wish we had a Gudas on our roster. If only we were locked into a playoff spot and had a couple lunkheads that we could call up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted February 24, 2023 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2023 He gets a two game suspension 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Buffalo Posted February 24, 2023 Report Share Posted February 24, 2023 2 minutes ago, Brawndo said: He gets a two game suspension More than I expected from the NHL... it is a start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin Posted February 24, 2023 Report Share Posted February 24, 2023 5 minutes ago, Brawndo said: He gets a two game suspension It could have been worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted February 24, 2023 Report Share Posted February 24, 2023 24 minutes ago, Brawndo said: He gets a two game suspension Good. Still not convinced it was intentional. But it definitely deserved a suspension. Can't get your elbow up into a guy's noggin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norcal Posted February 24, 2023 Report Share Posted February 24, 2023 Hard for him to argue this chicken wing, what the ***** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted February 24, 2023 Report Share Posted February 24, 2023 45 minutes ago, Brawndo said: He gets a two game suspension Ah, the ol' "be careful what you wish for"... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted February 24, 2023 Report Share Posted February 24, 2023 1 hour ago, Night Train said: He's 6-3 230 and purposely hit our team Captain...who happens to have a major past with head shots. No real grey area with intent. That was an ill advised messge directed at the entire team. Who advised Cernak that was a bad thing to do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted February 24, 2023 Report Share Posted February 24, 2023 If the NHL wants real justice they suspension is the next two games against Buffalo and they can’t replace him in the lineup. Therefore they can only dress 17 skaters those games. In addition in the first game Buffalo starts the game on the TB zone with a 5 minute PP. I have said since the Drury hit against Ott that the only cure for head shots is the make the penalty serve and to make the team also suffer for the players bad judgement. I also think that if an illegal play causes an injury, the perp sits out as long as the injured player. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTJoe Posted February 24, 2023 Report Share Posted February 24, 2023 the 4 referees should be suspended without pay also 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pimlach Posted February 24, 2023 Report Share Posted February 24, 2023 (edited) So nothing for being a repeat offender? He did this to Dahlin 2 years ago and got the same thing. BS. Between the sneaky and viscous cross to Dahlin's back, and then the elbow to Kyle's head - neither were handled by the refs correctly. This supports the notion that the players have to police themselves and every team needs the type of players that will do it. Edited February 24, 2023 by Pimlach 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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