dudacek Posted July 28, 2021 Report Share Posted July 28, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, LGR4GM said: Butcher has been good every year but last year. He was good as a rookie, mediocre the next two years, and bad last year. I perceive him mostly as a one-way d-man who needs to be put in optimal positions to succeed. Edited July 28, 2021 by dudacek 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted July 28, 2021 Report Share Posted July 28, 2021 1 minute ago, dudacek said: He was good as a rookie, mediocre the next two years, and bad last year. A perceive him mostly as a one-way d-man who needs to be put in optimal positions to succeed. And these aren't the minutes we want to take away from our other d-men 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthEbriate Posted July 28, 2021 Report Share Posted July 28, 2021 Who has more upside as our 3rd-pairing LD: Butcher or Bryson? Does Bryson go down to Rochester? I do like having sufficient folks in place to keep Samuelsson in Rochester and Power in Michigan so they can grow, win, and hopefully be dominant against lesser competition, rather than just getting demoralized. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PP Slapper Posted July 28, 2021 Report Share Posted July 28, 2021 36 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said: Why do we need another offensive D who isn’t exactly defensively responsible? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shmuffalo Posted July 28, 2021 Report Share Posted July 28, 2021 Well assumed let down of a day, and was bit worse than I expected... time to go the store 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gilbert11 Posted July 28, 2021 Report Share Posted July 28, 2021 45 minutes ago, Stads said: Another left shot D? Yay! Left shot defensemen have played on the right side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted July 28, 2021 Report Share Posted July 28, 2021 I can't complain about this move. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob_sauve28 Posted July 28, 2021 Report Share Posted July 28, 2021 Fine, good move Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerreaultForever Posted July 28, 2021 Report Share Posted July 28, 2021 The only upside I see here is it probably means we will do the smarter thing and let Power stay in college for the year. Butcher maybe gets moved at the deadline for another low-ish pick. Seems like a plan. Maybe next year we actually try to start getting better before our conversation is all about the trading of Dahlin and tanking threads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasmus_ Posted July 28, 2021 Report Share Posted July 28, 2021 46 minutes ago, dudacek said: Caggiula, Bjork, Hinostrozza and Butcher were all college studs who've had brief flares, but basically disappointed in the NHL Hinostroza, and Butcher have had a medium amount of success. I will agree on Bjork and Caggiula at this point. I don't think this is a pattern of any type. It just seems like guys likely willing to come to this cesspool. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthEbriate Posted July 28, 2021 Report Share Posted July 28, 2021 3 minutes ago, PerreaultForever said: The only upside I see here is it probably means we will do the smarter thing and let Power stay in college for the year. Butcher maybe gets moved at the deadline for another low-ish pick. Seems like a plan. Maybe next year we actually try to start getting better before our conversation is all about the trading of Dahlin and tanking threads. If you're Dahlin, do you take the minimum term to get to UFA or do 2 bridges (RFA, UFA) rather than taking a big long-term deal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted July 28, 2021 Report Share Posted July 28, 2021 (edited) Just now, DarthEbriate said: If you're Dahlin, do you take the minimum term to get to UFA or do 2 bridges (RFA, UFA) rather than taking a big long-term deal? Or do you start filling out college applications hoping you are still eligible to play in College and re-enter the draft? Edited July 28, 2021 by apuszczalowski Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerreaultForever Posted July 28, 2021 Report Share Posted July 28, 2021 Just now, DarthEbriate said: If you're Dahlin, do you take the minimum term to get to UFA or do 2 bridges (RFA, UFA) rather than taking a big long-term deal? Suppose that depends on an Eichel deal cause then he compare Sam and Jack outcomes and probabilities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted July 28, 2021 Report Share Posted July 28, 2021 1 minute ago, Rasmus_ said: Hinostroza, and Butcher have had a medium amount of success. I will agree on Bjork and Caggiula at this point. I don't think this is a pattern of any type. It just seems like guys likely willing to come to this cesspool. Basically just looking at signing guys looking for a chance at a fresh start or a chance to play 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broken Ankles Posted July 28, 2021 Report Share Posted July 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, DarthEbriate said: If you're Dahlin, do you take the minimum term to get to UFA or do 2 bridges (RFA, UFA) rather than taking a big long-term deal? You assume he will have a long term offer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthEbriate Posted July 28, 2021 Report Share Posted July 28, 2021 4 minutes ago, Broken Ankles said: You assume he will have a long term offer? Well, if the team doesn't offer then he doesn't have to worry about it -- he'll put in his minimum time and then walk or get traded at a deadline. But that's horrible asset management and there aren't any compensatory picks like in the NFL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted July 28, 2021 Report Share Posted July 28, 2021 54 minutes ago, PerreaultForever said: The only upside I see here is it probably means we will do the smarter thing and let Power stay in college for the year. Butcher maybe gets moved at the deadline for another low-ish pick. Seems like a plan. Maybe next year we actually try to start getting better before our conversation is all about the trading of Dahlin and tanking threads. Hopefully he stays in college the FULL year and we don't get 7 or 8 games of him in April when everything in the MMArena seems broken. Let him play in college and enjoy the full spring semester in what will hopefully be "normal times" and then join this thing we call the Sabres in the fall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FogBat Posted July 28, 2021 Report Share Posted July 28, 2021 2 hours ago, Norcal said: Boring. Go to the tank thread and yell into the void. This doesn't have to be in every thread. Indeed. It's getting older than Rip Van Winkle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted July 29, 2021 Report Share Posted July 29, 2021 So, apparently Butcher played for Donnie on the USNDP team. As did Sean Malone. Interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi2000 Posted July 29, 2021 Report Share Posted July 29, 2021 TRpm of -0.04 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabrefanday1 Posted July 29, 2021 Report Share Posted July 29, 2021 so Sam stated last week that he actually wanted to be here and to sign a new contract but we dumped him but now we get the guy that did not want to be here 3 years ago and chose NewJersey over us when exGMJBotto was all hot-to-trot for this guy? Yikes great addition to the team haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triumph_communes Posted July 29, 2021 Report Share Posted July 29, 2021 37 minutes ago, sabrefanday1 said: so Sam stated last week that he actually wanted to be here and to sign a new contract but we dumped him but now we get the guy that did not want to be here 3 years ago and chose NewJersey over us when exGMJBotto was all hot-to-trot for this guy? Yikes great addition to the team haha No he didn’t. He outright said he won’t sign here. His reference was to what he wanted years ago probably when he was demanding 8 million/yr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKnowPhysics Posted July 29, 2021 Report Share Posted July 29, 2021 FWIW, Will Butcher played the easiest minutes of any NJD defenseman and still struggled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted July 29, 2021 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2021 Just now, IKnowPhysics said: FWIW, Will Butcher played the easiest minutes of any NJD defenseman and still struggled. That's why he was free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKnowPhysics Posted July 29, 2021 Report Share Posted July 29, 2021 However, Chad blames Connor Carrick; I accept this. https://www.expectedbuffalo.com/will-butcher-mark-pysyk-acquisitions-fortify-buffalo-sabres-blue-line/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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