WildCard Posted July 24, 2021 Report Share Posted July 24, 2021 Just now, Randall Flagg said: Analytics are not some monolith of consensus information Do you see analytics reflected in these picks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted July 24, 2021 Report Share Posted July 24, 2021 14 minutes ago, WildCard said: 1pt in 22 games seems...bad He was also averaging less than 6 minutes a game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted July 24, 2021 Report Share Posted July 24, 2021 Half the kids drafted in this range have tenacious, plays with an edge, tough to play against, in your face. We get a 150 lbs finesse kid that had 1 assist in 22 games. Sigh. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted July 24, 2021 Report Share Posted July 24, 2021 Just now, Randall Flagg said: Analytics are not some monolith of consensus information Indeed. Just now, WildCard said: Do you see analytics reflected in these picks The difference between Twitter Charts Guys (who are not actually analytical in any way) and guys like Ventura and Karmanos is that they know analytics are a part of the greater evaluation and team building. Can we stop acting like we understand how analytics is used and applied? Show me the charts that show you every single Tampa Bay player that plays an important role is an analytic success. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted July 24, 2021 Report Share Posted July 24, 2021 https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/prospect-interest-isak-rosen-skills-par-marner-kane/ I posted it in the drat thread too. Good read. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted July 24, 2021 Report Share Posted July 24, 2021 2 minutes ago, WildCard said: Do you see analytics reflected in these picks I don't know what on God's green earth you mean by analytics. I'm quite sure the Sabres used metrics, numbers, regressions, and more that are not publicly available 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted July 24, 2021 Report Share Posted July 24, 2021 3 minutes ago, WildCard said: Do you see analytics reflected in these picks no Rosen was decent in the J20 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted July 24, 2021 Report Share Posted July 24, 2021 9 minutes ago, Second Line Center said: I'm feeling confident the return on Eichel and Sam will include several C prospects. Has to be I think. KA hasn't taken a C with even..NHL potential in his first 7 selections as GM so far Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewookie1 Posted July 24, 2021 Report Share Posted July 24, 2021 Thought this caveat was interesting. If he was playing so little, no wonder he had 1 point. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted July 24, 2021 Report Share Posted July 24, 2021 1 minute ago, Randall Flagg said: I don't know what on God's green earth you mean by analytics. I'm quite sure the Sabres used metrics, numbers, regressions, and more that are not publicly available Yeah, I'm sure they did too. They're interpretation of them seems to go against the consensus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted July 24, 2021 Report Share Posted July 24, 2021 This kid plays fewer than 82 games as a Sabre. I'll put a lunch bet or a $10 charity bet on it against the first taker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted July 24, 2021 Report Share Posted July 24, 2021 His J20 is fine for a 17 year old. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted July 24, 2021 Report Share Posted July 24, 2021 Quote Rosén played 5 minutes per game in the SHL and 8 games out of 22 he played under 3 minutes. Now that is some stinky #hammymath right there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted July 24, 2021 Report Share Posted July 24, 2021 Just now, Eleven said: This kid plays fewer than 82 games as a Sabre. I'll put a lunch bet or a $10 charity bet on it against the first taker. I will take that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted July 24, 2021 Report Share Posted July 24, 2021 Just now, LGR4GM said: I will take that "I'm your huckleberry." You're on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted July 24, 2021 Report Share Posted July 24, 2021 1 minute ago, WildCard said: Yeah, I'm sure they did too. They're interpretation of them seems to go against the consensus. You know what else would have went against consensus? Passing on Owen Power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted July 24, 2021 Report Share Posted July 24, 2021 Just now, Eleven said: "I'm your huckleberry." You're on. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted July 24, 2021 Report Share Posted July 24, 2021 2 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: His J20 is fine for a 17 year old. You shouldn't be looking at that. You're a grown man, and you're married. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted July 24, 2021 Report Share Posted July 24, 2021 Just now, Hoss said: You know what else would have went against consensus? Passing on Owen Power. The analytics consensus? I don't think so Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi2000 Posted July 24, 2021 Report Share Posted July 24, 2021 Mittlestadtesque 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted July 24, 2021 Report Share Posted July 24, 2021 1 minute ago, WildCard said: The analytics consensus? I don't think so There is a vast misunderstanding about what the word analytics means and how it applies to evaluating players. I don’t understand it fully either so we’re all in the same boat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewookie1 Posted July 24, 2021 Report Share Posted July 24, 2021 4 minutes ago, nfreeman said: Now that is some stinky #hammymath right there. His average TOI/GP was 5:45 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Amerk Posted July 24, 2021 Report Share Posted July 24, 2021 19 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said: One year in Sweden then one in the AHL. That’s EXTREMELY optimistic 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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WildCard Posted July 24, 2021 Report Share Posted July 24, 2021 (edited) 1 minute ago, Hoss said: There is a vast misunderstanding about what the word analytics means and how it applies to evaluating players. I don’t understand it fully either so we’re all in the same boat. Lol I mean I won't pretend I graduated with a degree in stats but the projections posted on here about NHL star abilities and Power lower than others. End all be all? No. Still, just feels like we're drafting the same we've been drafting for years. Edited July 24, 2021 by WildCard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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