WildCard Posted June 2, 2021 Report Share Posted June 2, 2021 (edited) The most sad part of this is when I entered the title, it auto-filled to an older lottery we were a part of. So, there's that. Anyways, lottery is tonight. You all know the drill: hope for 1, get 3, and draft like it's 15. Edit: Mods can we please pin this? Edited June 2, 2021 by WildCard 1 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miles Posted June 2, 2021 Report Share Posted June 2, 2021 here is to the sabres destroying the potential career of another fine young player 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted June 2, 2021 Report Share Posted June 2, 2021 Anyone else rooting for the Sabres to not win the lottery. I have concerns about Owen Power and want that choice eliminated from the Sabres. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted June 2, 2021 Report Share Posted June 2, 2021 (edited) I am not often in sync with my fellow fans, but I am heartened that, this time around, there isn't fervor and excitement for a night like this. (Unless it's being discussed fervently and excitedly in a thread I haven't seen.) Edited June 2, 2021 by PASabreFan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted June 2, 2021 Report Share Posted June 2, 2021 9 minutes ago, PASabreFan said: I am not often in sync with my fellow fans, but I am heartened that, this time around, there isn't fervor and excitement for a night like this. (Unless it's being discussed fervently and excitedly in a thread I haven't seen.) If Connor Bedard was available there would be excitement but currently the first tier of this draft is 5 players deep. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthEbriate Posted June 2, 2021 Report Share Posted June 2, 2021 Just ran Tankathon 10 times... I seem to do this annually. Two 1s, two 2s, six 3s. The math mostly checks out, as we have a 70% chance of picking third. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin Posted June 2, 2021 Report Share Posted June 2, 2021 I wasn't excited about the McEichel draft. And this one pales by comparison. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustache of God Posted June 2, 2021 Report Share Posted June 2, 2021 I have zero feelings towards this draft. My desired outcome is to win the first pick and then trade down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radar Posted June 2, 2021 Report Share Posted June 2, 2021 I'd listen to all offers to move down either for lower pick plus player or multiple picks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob_sauve28 Posted June 2, 2021 Report Share Posted June 2, 2021 1 hour ago, inkman said: Anyone else rooting for the Sabres to not win the lottery. I have concerns about Owen Power and want that choice eliminated from the Sabres. But he is big! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted June 2, 2021 Report Share Posted June 2, 2021 Just trade the pick 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted June 2, 2021 Report Share Posted June 2, 2021 GM's are not going to trade down. They want to be able to pick a player not only at a certain skill level but also with other desired traits such as height, grit, motor. Sure we could say that Power, Clarke, and Hughes are the same but a GM will want his choice based on other traits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthEbriate Posted June 2, 2021 Report Share Posted June 2, 2021 Fun illustration of how bad we've been (while I was looking at some draft charts)... With the exception of Brett Murray (+1 in 2 GP, so a really, really small sample size), the last skater the Sabres drafted who has a career positive +/- is Joel Armia who is at +9 for his career. He was drafted ten years ago. 3 minutes ago, Radar said: I'd listen to all offers to move down either for lower pick plus player or multiple picks. Yes, but this is the NHL and conservative GMs. Unless there's a couple Sedins to try to get together, no one's really moving 1st round picks around. Now -- you move Eichel and you can get a 1st rounder. And of course the usual "this isn't the NFL draft" line so trading down to accumulate picks isn't really a thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted June 2, 2021 Report Share Posted June 2, 2021 9 minutes ago, DarthEbriate said: Fun illustration of how bad we've been (while I was looking at some draft charts)... With the exception of Brett Murray (+1 in 2 GP, so a really, really small sample size), the last skater the Sabres drafted who has a career positive +/- is Joel Armia who is at +9 for his career. He was drafted ten years ago. Yes, but this is the NHL and conservative GMs. Unless there's a couple Sedins to try to get together, no one's really moving 1st round picks around. Now -- you move Eichel and you can get a 1st rounder. And of course the usual "this isn't the NFL draft" line so trading down to accumulate picks isn't really a thing. The math says trading down especially in the top 5 is a major mistake. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted June 2, 2021 Report Share Posted June 2, 2021 Sabres gonna win a gift certificate to Ground Round 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalonill Posted June 2, 2021 Report Share Posted June 2, 2021 This isn't the nfl trade downs will not happen Just stay away from Beniers, power !! So please get pick 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthEbriate Posted June 2, 2021 Report Share Posted June 2, 2021 3 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: The math says trading down especially in the top 5 is a major mistake. It's that age-old going from the guaranteed 100 GP threshold to a total crapshoot. That said, if there ever was a year where some GM might covet someone who is projected in the top 10, but doesn't pick until later (or like Arizona, lacks their 1st)... because of the lack of games played from COVID, maybe something silly happens this draft. There will be all sorts of reaches based on who teams liked from the previous 2019-2020 season, etc., but it could also be that a team drafts perfectly fine by just picking the next available player on the Central Scouting list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derrico Posted June 2, 2021 Report Share Posted June 2, 2021 1 hour ago, PASabreFan said: I am not often in sync with my fellow fans, but I am heartened that, this time around, there isn't fervor and excitement for a night like this. (Unless it's being discussed fervently and excitedly in a thread I haven't seen.) Nope. I think we're all sick of it and odds are we're going to lose anyways..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted June 2, 2021 Report Share Posted June 2, 2021 18 minutes ago, Buffalonill said: This isn't the nfl trade downs will not happen Just stay away from Beniers, power !! So please get pick 3 You dislike Beniers and Power? 9 minutes ago, DarthEbriate said: It's that age-old going from the guaranteed 100 GP threshold to a total crapshoot. That said, if there ever was a year where some GM might covet someone who is projected in the top 10, but doesn't pick until later (or like Arizona, lacks their 1st)... because of the lack of games played from COVID, maybe something silly happens this draft. There will be all sorts of reaches based on who teams liked from the previous 2019-2020 season, etc., but it could also be that a team drafts perfectly fine by just picking the next available player on the Central Scouting list. I don't love CSS rankings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted June 2, 2021 Report Share Posted June 2, 2021 6 minutes ago, Derrico said: Nope. I think we're all sick of it and odds are we're going to lose anyways..... I'm sick of following the draft and thinking and talking about prospects, but the draft itself will be fun I suppose when we get there - I've always loved the actually draft weekend. I'd be excited for the lottery itself (but not the run up this time) if there were actually players that excited me in this class - but there just aren't. I just can't get to that sense of excited nervousness that usually accompanies the lottery - like I said the run-up has grown tiresome regardless but I would be excited for the actual lottery if there was a Bedard, like Liger said 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted June 2, 2021 Report Share Posted June 2, 2021 25 minutes ago, Buffalonill said: This isn't the nfl trade downs will not happen Just stay away from Beniers, power !! So please get pick 3 What’s wrong with Beniers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalonill Posted June 2, 2021 Report Share Posted June 2, 2021 10 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: You dislike Beniers and Power? I don't love CSS rankings. We dont have the time to wait 4-5 years for power to become "elite" Beniers Isn't a point producer so I think that's not a good pick at 3rd overall or 2nd or 1st Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted June 2, 2021 Report Share Posted June 2, 2021 9 minutes ago, Thorny said: I'm sick of following the draft and thinking and talking about prospects, but the draft itself will be fun I suppose when we get there - I've always loved the actually draft weekend. I'd be excited for the lottery itself (but not the run up this time) if there were actually players that excited me in this class - but there just aren't. I just can't get to that sense of excited nervousness that usually accompanies the lottery - like I said the run-up has grown tiresome regardless but I would be excited for the actual lottery if there was a Bedard, like Liger said Looking forward to blocking 90% of Sabres Twitter when the Sabres don’t take this years version of Lundell, Rossi, Ehlers, or Caufield. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted June 2, 2021 Report Share Posted June 2, 2021 9 minutes ago, Buffalonill said: We dont have the time to wait 4-5 years for power to become "elite" Beniers Isn't a point producer so I think that's not a good pick at 3rd overall or 2nd or 1st He’s a point a game player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted June 2, 2021 Report Share Posted June 2, 2021 7 minutes ago, inkman said: Looking forward to blocking 90% of Sabres Twitter when the Sabres don’t take this years version of Lundell, Rossi, Ehlers, or Caufield. I was tired of getting flamed for suggesting we trade the pick for a *gasp* good player right now, because Sabres twitter has made up it's mind we have to rebuild cause there's "nothing we can do" for a few years at least, so I'm not really engaging on the Sabres twitter front at the moment. I just can't do the rebuild convo anymore 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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