KC Scouts Posted May 21, 2021 Report Share Posted May 21, 2021 The Leafs…… choke choke gasp, cough They are just not a playoff team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zamboni Posted May 21, 2021 Report Share Posted May 21, 2021 Nice hard win for MTL 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pimlach Posted May 21, 2021 Report Share Posted May 21, 2021 2 minutes ago, KC Scouts said: Really not a fan of the Habs when they play the Sabres…… but I’ll always root for them against the Leafs…. … and I do so love the Habs uniform Habs win. Right now I’m a Hab fan. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusader1969 Posted May 21, 2021 Report Share Posted May 21, 2021 1 down 3 to go! 2 minutes ago, Pimlach said: Habs win. Right now I’m a Hab fan. Let’s be honest though, the quality of play is terrible in the north compared to the other 3 divisions! No way MTL should be a playoff team and leafs not much better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusader1969 Posted May 21, 2021 Report Share Posted May 21, 2021 11 hours ago, Thorny said: People will say one is wasting their time rooting for someone to lose, as it just gets you wrapped up in negativity. I'd argue it's exceptionally logical: you reverse the 1/32 odds. It's often a much more gratifying way to watch sports IMO 100%. I’m 51 and 0 cheering against the leafs. Well probably only 45, doubt I started to hate them before I was 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pimlach Posted May 21, 2021 Report Share Posted May 21, 2021 1 minute ago, Crusader1969 said: 1 down 3 to go! Let’s be honest though, the quality of play is terrible in the north compared to the other 3 divisions! No way MTL should be a playoff team and leafs not much better I’ll be honest. Montreal is the one team I can think of that has won cups in years when they were NOT the best team but they get hot in the playoffs and ride it. This has happened several times that I can recall. Something about them and their history, they rise to the occasion. Not saying they will win it, but I just want to eliminate Toronto. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zamboni Posted May 21, 2021 Report Share Posted May 21, 2021 MTL is a good example of not having “high end” superstars, but with solid goaltending, and a great coaching plan, a team can make waves, and then some! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampD Posted May 21, 2021 Report Share Posted May 21, 2021 (edited) Jeff Carter is kind of an underrated player. Edited May 21, 2021 by SwampD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalonill Posted May 21, 2021 Report Share Posted May 21, 2021 Nothing Excites me more when the leafs choke every year its like Christmas 1 hour ago, SwampD said: Jeff Carter is kind of an underrated player. Cant believe hes 36 and turning back the clock 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claude Balls Posted May 21, 2021 Report Share Posted May 21, 2021 1 hour ago, SwampD said: Jeff Carter is kind of an underrated player. He's been amazing for Pittsburgh. I figured he was washed up. I'll take the loss on that thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerreaultForever Posted May 21, 2021 Report Share Posted May 21, 2021 3 hours ago, KC Scouts said: The Leafs…… choke choke gasp, cough They are just not a playoff team Exactly. Which is why the Sabres should not be trying to emulate/follow their model . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerreaultForever Posted May 21, 2021 Report Share Posted May 21, 2021 3 hours ago, SwampD said: Jeff Carter is kind of an underrated player. Is he? Two Stanley Cups, Gold medals, and wasn't he an almost Conn Smyth winner? Anyway, I guess maybe he's underrated but not really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabre fan Posted May 21, 2021 Report Share Posted May 21, 2021 Funny how the Traveres injury may be the best thing to happen to the Leafs...it has taken the onus off of how they lost and all they are talking about is the play and the injury up here in Ontario. Even the guys on both TSN & Sportsnet agree though that Foligno picking a fight was pretty bad and really was pretty silly as clearly there was absolutely no intent on Perry's behalf. How Foligno did not get an extra instigator penalty is beyond anybody. Having said that. Montreal is a great example of a team that wins on good goaltending (which they almost always had & have), good coaching and they play with so much heart and determination for a franchise that is loaded with tradition and such a great history. They simply do not accept losing and fired their coach this past season when they were still well above .500 hockey. Love them or hate them, Montreal is such a great franchise and role model. Still think Leafs will prevail though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusader1969 Posted May 21, 2021 Report Share Posted May 21, 2021 9 hours ago, SwampD said: Jeff Carter is kind of an underrated player. I agree. Can the Pens afford him next season? If not, GA needs to make a call Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted May 21, 2021 Report Share Posted May 21, 2021 Hell of a defensive play by Crosby in the dying moments to prevent the sure tying goal. Exceptional awareness. https://www.nhl.com/video/first-round-gm3-pit--nyi/t-277350912/c-8411961 Can be found at about the 8:20 mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
French Collection Posted May 21, 2021 Report Share Posted May 21, 2021 1 hour ago, Sabre fan said: Funny how the Traveres injury may be the best thing to happen to the Leafs...it has taken the onus off of how they lost and all they are talking about is the play and the injury up here in Ontario. Even the guys on both TSN & Sportsnet agree though that Foligno picking a fight was pretty bad and really was pretty silly as clearly there was absolutely no intent on Perry's behalf. How Foligno did not get an extra instigator penalty is beyond anybody. Having said that. Montreal is a great example of a team that wins on good goaltending (which they almost always had & have), good coaching and they play with so much heart and determination for a franchise that is loaded with tradition and such a great history. They simply do not accept losing and fired their coach this past season when they were still well above .500 hockey. Love them or hate them, Montreal is such a great franchise and role model. Still think Leafs will prevail though... I like Foligno but that was wrong. Perry is dirty but that happened so fast that he had no time to do much except try to jump out of the way. Perry dropped the gloves but did not fight, just protect h8mself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pimlach Posted May 21, 2021 Report Share Posted May 21, 2021 1 hour ago, Sabre fan said: Funny how the Traveres injury may be the best thing to happen to the Leafs...it has taken the onus off of how they lost and all they are talking about is the play and the injury up here in Ontario. Even the guys on both TSN & Sportsnet agree though that Foligno picking a fight was pretty bad and really was pretty silly as clearly there was absolutely no intent on Perry's behalf. How Foligno did not get an extra instigator penalty is beyond anybody. Having said that. Montreal is a great example of a team that wins on good goaltending (which they almost always had & have), good coaching and they play with so much heart and determination for a franchise that is loaded with tradition and such a great history. They simply do not accept losing and fired their coach this past season when they were still well above .500 hockey. Love them or hate them, Montreal is such a great franchise and role model. Still think Leafs will prevail though... The interview with Foligno after the game was IMO bizarre. First, the media talked about how tough his father was. Then they asked him to describe his thoughts about the fight. Foligno mentioned “seeing our Captain lying there” too many times. He basically said that even though it was an accident, he had to address it. Then the media guys said the even Perry understood the situation and only wrestled and never threw a punch, in some sort of honor for Taveras. Worse, they talked over and over about being prideful for this code of conduct. Now I am old school. I like hitting and I think there still is a place for fighting in the NHL, albeit limited. But these guys were completely carried away, to the point that non hockey fans would never understand. They glorified the fighter and the fighting culture, contrary to what the NHL stands for. As for Montreal. I already mentioned how they won Cups in years when they were average. Hot goalies, great coaching, pride, mystique, all of they above. I don’t think they nearly as good as Tronto, but they might be good enough to beat them. 23 minutes ago, Thorny said: Hell of a defensive play by Crosby in the dying moments to prevent the sure tying goal. Exceptional awareness. https://www.nhl.com/video/first-round-gm3-pit--nyi/t-277350912/c-8411961 Can be found at about the 8:20 mark Yup. He has really proven to be a relentless 2way, 200 foot player. I will go back to cheering against him now. Lol 😂 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted May 21, 2021 Report Share Posted May 21, 2021 3 minutes ago, Pimlach said: The interview with Foligno after the game was IMO bizarre. First, the media talked about how tough his father was. Then they asked him to describe his thoughts about the fight. Foligno mentioned “seeing our Captain lying there” too many times. He basically said that even though it was an accident, he had to address it. Then the media guys said the even Perry understood the situation and only wrestled and never threw a punch, in some sort of honor for Taveras. Worse, they talked over and over about being prideful for this code of conduct. Now I am old school. I like hitting and I think there still is a place for fighting in the NHL, albeit limited. But these guys were completely carried away, to the point that non hockey fans would never understand. They glorified the fighter and the fighting culture, contrary to what the NHL stands for. As for Montreal. I already mentioned how they won Cups in years when they were average. Hot goalies, great coaching, pride, mystique, all of they above. I don’t think they nearly as good as Tronto, but they might be good enough to beat them. Yup. He has really proven to be a relentless 2way, 200 foot player. I will go back to cheering against him now. Lol 😂 Just the way you sort of see him slow down and look around and process everything around him as he gets into the zone, seeing who has which guy, the awareness to see the chance developing and the quickness to break it up. Maybe doesn't have the offensive explosiveness he once had, but just an all-around force at this stage of his career. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabre fan Posted May 21, 2021 Report Share Posted May 21, 2021 1 hour ago, Thorny said: Just the way you sort of see him slow down and look around and process everything around him as he gets into the zone, seeing who has which guy, the awareness to see the chance developing and the quickness to break it up. Maybe doesn't have the offensive explosiveness he once had, but just an all-around force at this stage of his career. Yeah Sydney is amazing for sure. Doesn't seem to matter who he plays with either. I love what OV has done scoring but he is pretty-much one dimensional whereas Sydney is al over the ice. The MacKinnon/McDavid debate rages on but Sydney is still the best come crunch time. Clearly MacKinnon has a far stronger support cast as Colorado sure has a good team whereas Edmonton has McDavid playing with Kassian sometimes Neal who started like crazy with the Oilers but sure faded quickly. That McDavid continues to roll up big numbers is amazing. Nice to see Florida get rewarded with a win last night also...kinda hoping they win the series Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted May 21, 2021 Report Share Posted May 21, 2021 2 hours ago, Thorny said: Just the way you sort of see him slow down and look around and process everything around him as he gets into the zone, seeing who has which guy, the awareness to see the chance developing and the quickness to break it up. Maybe doesn't have the offensive explosiveness he once had, but just an all-around force at this stage of his career. Crosby gets my vote as the most complete all around player to ever play the game. He’s a grinder with HOF talent. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jad1 Posted May 21, 2021 Report Share Posted May 21, 2021 4 hours ago, Sabre fan said: Funny how the Traveres injury may be the best thing to happen to the Leafs...it has taken the onus off of how they lost and all they are talking about is the play and the injury up here in Ontario. Even the guys on both TSN & Sportsnet agree though that Foligno picking a fight was pretty bad and really was pretty silly as clearly there was absolutely no intent on Perry's behalf. How Foligno did not get an extra instigator penalty is beyond anybody. Having said that. Montreal is a great example of a team that wins on good goaltending (which they almost always had & have), good coaching and they play with so much heart and determination for a franchise that is loaded with tradition and such a great history. They simply do not accept losing and fired their coach this past season when they were still well above .500 hockey. Love them or hate them, Montreal is such a great franchise and role model. Still think Leafs will prevail though... Montreal? Really? Montreal has basically been a non-factor since they traded Roy. The Sabres have more overall success than the Canadiens over the last 25 years. Happy they beat the Leafs and hope they win this series, but if the divisions weren't re-aligned due the pandemic, Montreal would not have made the playoffs. Montreal is a role model if you want to be a middling franchise decade after decade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted May 21, 2021 Report Share Posted May 21, 2021 42 minutes ago, jad1 said: Montreal? Really? Montreal has basically been a non-factor since they traded Roy. The Sabres have more overall success than the Canadiens over the last 25 years. Happy they beat the Leafs and hope they win this series, but if the divisions weren't re-aligned due the pandemic, Montreal would not have made the playoffs. Montreal is a role model if you want to be a middling franchise decade after decade. I’d take middling over whatever we’ve dealt with the last decade. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabre fan Posted May 21, 2021 Report Share Posted May 21, 2021 28 minutes ago, inkman said: I’d take middling over whatever we’ve dealt with the last decade. totally agree...yes they have down years but they have tradition and come playoff time they are tough to play against (which is more then we can say seeing how we never make the playoffs anymore)... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jad1 Posted May 21, 2021 Report Share Posted May 21, 2021 40 minutes ago, inkman said: I’d take middling over whatever we’ve dealt with the last decade. The Sabres were middling between the Drury/Briere exodus and the tank. Nobody was happy with it. The Canadiens aren't a role model, they're a cautionary tale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted May 21, 2021 Report Share Posted May 21, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, jad1 said: The Sabres were middling between the Drury/Briere exodus and the tank. Nobody was happy with it. The Canadiens aren't a role model, they're a cautionary tale. It’s hard for me to contain my exasperation here. Yeah, I don’t want to just be a sucky middling team but I’ll take it over being the laughing stock of the league going on a decade now. Give me the perennial Cup contender but I’ll take an annual cusp (thanks @PASabreFan) contender until that ship arrives in port. Edited May 21, 2021 by inkman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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