eman Posted March 29, 2019 Report Share Posted March 29, 2019 8 hours ago, SabresBillsFan said: Should have been fired when Quinnville became available. Need all players to buy in defense first mentality. Defense wins Championships and I won't give up on Risto yet. With the right coach, I bet he will blossom. The man has skill and size. Under Phil and assistants, the entire defense is butter soft. (Except perhaps Bogo and McCabe) All I see is stick checking and never removing bodies from in front of our goaltender. Under Quenneville, at least that would change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted March 29, 2019 Report Share Posted March 29, 2019 He would have a three week job interview Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eman Posted March 29, 2019 Report Share Posted March 29, 2019 1 hour ago, Brawndo said: He would have a three week job interview I am totally cool with that hiring. Reel him in TPegs! (and JBots) More talent on this roster than gets credit. Especially if we can't bring in any free agents (any big names anyhow) to improve this roster. We have some solid young talent that needs proper coaching and development and someone who may be a little tougher on the players. I'm good with this should it transpire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Buffalo Posted March 29, 2019 Report Share Posted March 29, 2019 (edited) This from Atlantic's Lebrun 2nd half of article stating Housley and Bougner in trouble. https://theathletic.com/893957/2019/03/29/lebrun-notebook-decision-on-hobey-baker-candidate-adam-foxs-professional-future-expected-soon/ Edited March 29, 2019 by North Buffalo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
... Posted March 29, 2019 Report Share Posted March 29, 2019 Well, it's a thing, now, forget Q, go for Vigneault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted March 29, 2019 Report Share Posted March 29, 2019 (edited) AV likes skating teams. There is no doubt he is in charge. Like most veteran coaches, he prefers veterans and got fired in New York because management didn't believe he was the right guy for their rebuild. Give him an average NHL team and he will get them into the playoffs, kinda like Trotz did on Long Island. Give him a good NHL team and he will contend. He doesn't have much of a track record with bad NHL teams. Not sure if he is the right coach for the Sabres given the amount of kids we will be cycling in, but he is a good coach who will weed out the malingerers. He will definitely have his own version of Sobotka and will frustrate fans by sitting young players. But after this year, maybe fans will see why Wilson over Thompson is not necessarily a bad thing. Based on the popular percption of what the Sabres are, I don't know if he is what the Sabres need. But given what the Sabres have shown, maybe he is exactly what the Sabres need. Edited March 29, 2019 by dudacek 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CallawaySabres Posted March 29, 2019 Report Share Posted March 29, 2019 As long as this shiitshow comes to and end, I could not care less who the coach is. Just make it someone who holds players accountable for effort. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted March 29, 2019 Report Share Posted March 29, 2019 39 minutes ago, dudacek said: AV likes skating teams. There is no doubt he is in charge. Like most veteran coaches, he prefers veterans and got fired in New York because management didn't believe he was the right guy for their rebuild. Give him an average NHL team and he will get them into the playoffs, kinda like Trotz did on Long Island. Give him a good NHL team and he will contend. He doesn't have much of a track record with bad NHL teams. Not sure if he is the right coach for the Sabres given the amount of kids we will be cycling in, but he is a good coach who will weed out the malingerers. He will definitely have his own version of Sobotka and will frustrate fans by sitting young players. But after this year, maybe fans will see why Wilson over Thompson is not necessarily a bad thing. Based on the popular percption of what the Sabres are, I don't know if he is what the Sabres need. But given what the Sabres have shown, maybe he is exactly what the Sabres need. I’ve not agreed with the idea of cycling the kids through. I might have to jump on this train. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted March 29, 2019 Report Share Posted March 29, 2019 41 minutes ago, dudacek said: AV likes skating teams. There is no doubt he is in charge. Like most veteran coaches, he prefers veterans and got fired in New York because management didn't believe he was the right guy for their rebuild. Give him an average NHL team and he will get them into the playoffs, kinda like Trotz did on Long Island. Give him a good NHL team and he will contend. He doesn't have much of a track record with bad NHL teams. Not sure if he is the right coach for the Sabres given the amount of kids we will be cycling in, but he is a good coach who will weed out the malingerers. He will definitely have his own version of Sobotka and will frustrate fans by sitting young players. But after this year, maybe fans will see why Wilson over Thompson is not necessarily a bad thing. Based on the popular percption of what the Sabres are, I don't know if he is what the Sabres need. But given what the Sabres have shown, maybe he is exactly what the Sabres need. I don't think it's necessarily true he was fired for being the wrong guy to rebuild with. At best, that's a charitable interpretation. There was a ton written about how Vigneault wasn't adapting with changes in the game. He was relying on a counter attack system in a world of possession. It worked for awhile because Hank was Hank, but if he tried to do the same thing with our goalies, it would be an abject disaster. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted March 29, 2019 Report Share Posted March 29, 2019 36 minutes ago, TrueBlueGED said: I don't think it's necessarily true he was fired for being the wrong guy to rebuild with. At best, that's a charitable interpretation. There was a ton written about how Vigneault wasn't adapting with changes in the game. He was relying on a counter attack system in a world of possession. It worked for awhile because Hank was Hank, but if he tried to do the same thing with our goalies, it would be an abject disaster. Good point. And the thought the game has passed him by is a reasonable one. He is of the same vintage of Babcock, Julien, Trotz, Laviolette and Quenville. Has he learned from his mistakes? Has he adapted? Or is he another Bylsma? Housley preaches the possession system and Botterill seems to believe in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CallawaySabres Posted March 29, 2019 Report Share Posted March 29, 2019 I keep looking at this thread hoping the Should Be part of the title disappears..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted March 29, 2019 Report Share Posted March 29, 2019 5 hours ago, Brawndo said: He would have a three week job interview 3 hours ago, dudacek said: AV likes skating teams. There is no doubt he is in charge. Like most veteran coaches, he prefers veterans and got fired in New York because management didn't believe he was the right guy for their rebuild. Give him an average NHL team and he will get them into the playoffs, kinda like Trotz did on Long Island. Give him a good NHL team and he will contend. He doesn't have much of a track record with bad NHL teams. Not sure if he is the right coach for the Sabres given the amount of kids we will be cycling in, but he is a good coach who will weed out the malingerers. He will definitely have his own version of Sobotka and will frustrate fans by sitting young players. But after this year, maybe fans will see why Wilson over Thompson is not necessarily a bad thing. Based on the popular percption of what the Sabres are, I don't know if he is what the Sabres need. But given what the Sabres have shown, maybe he is exactly what the Sabres need. Interesting. I've always kinda liked AV and would be totally fine with this. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabres Fan in NS Posted March 29, 2019 Report Share Posted March 29, 2019 They could fire all the coaches and bring in Scotty (again) and the Ghost Of Punch and the Ghost of Toe and it would not make a bit of difference until the roster is improved. I don't think that Phil will be fired. JBOT, by doing so, would be admitting that he failed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted March 30, 2019 Report Share Posted March 30, 2019 11 hours ago, TrueBlueGED said: I don't think it's necessarily true he was fired for being the wrong guy to rebuild with. At best, that's a charitable interpretation. There was a ton written about how Vigneault wasn't adapting with changes in the game. He was relying on a counter attack system in a world of possession. It worked for awhile because Hank was Hank, but if he tried to do the same thing with our goalies, it would be an abject disaster. We need a new coach, that's for sure. But True is right. There are criticisms about coach Q too. Give me Sheldon Keefe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Buffalo Posted March 30, 2019 Report Share Posted March 30, 2019 14 hours ago, New Scotland (NS) said: They could fire all the coaches and bring in Scotty (again) and the Ghost Of Punch and the Ghost of Toe and it would not make a bit of difference until the roster is improved. I don't think that Phil will be fired. JBOT, by doing so, would be admitting that he failed. Thinking... can Phil develop with team, not sure but if he is kept message sent to team its his way better step up and yeh more talent needed both at NHL level and through out the system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted March 30, 2019 Report Share Posted March 30, 2019 9 hours ago, WildCard said: We need a new coach, that's for sure. But True is right. There are criticisms about coach Q too. Give me Sheldon Keefe Does anyone know if Keefe’s New Contract allows Kyle Dubas to block him from speaking to certain teams? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Rhea Posted March 30, 2019 Report Share Posted March 30, 2019 10 hours ago, WildCard said: We need a new coach, that's for sure. But True is right. There are criticisms about coach Q too. Give me Sheldon Keefe Him or Chris Taylor, IMO either one is better then Housley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zamboni Posted March 31, 2019 Report Share Posted March 31, 2019 T-minus 4 ... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billznut Posted March 31, 2019 Report Share Posted March 31, 2019 (edited) If AV comes here, does he try to bring Lindy Ruff in as an assistant? AV brought him to the Rangers a few years ago. I can see Pegula loving the AV hire if he can get Lindy to come back. In Pegulas mind that will be instant excitement for Sabres fans and great PR. Edited March 31, 2019 by Billznut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zamboni Posted March 31, 2019 Report Share Posted March 31, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Billznut said: If AV comes here, does he try to bring Lindy Ruff in as an assistant? AV brought him to the Rangers a few years ago. I can see Pegula loving the AV hire if he can get Lindy to come back. In Pegulas mind that will be instant excitement for Sabres fans and great PR. Good PR would be the worst reason to bring Ruff back. But with Pegulas mind ... who knows what “wise” thing he decides. Edited March 31, 2019 by Zamboni Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billznut Posted March 31, 2019 Report Share Posted March 31, 2019 3 minutes ago, Zamboni said: Good PR would be the worst reason to bring Ruff back. But with Pegulas mind ... who knows what “wise” thing he decides. These are exactly the kind of moves Pegula loves. Anything to bring back the glory days of the past. Don’t discount it. I definitely could see it happening if AV is the next HC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
... Posted March 31, 2019 Report Share Posted March 31, 2019 It's not personal, Phil, it's strictly business. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kruppstahl Posted March 31, 2019 Report Share Posted March 31, 2019 On 3/29/2019 at 6:18 PM, New Scotland (NS) said: They could fire all the coaches and bring in Scotty (again) and the Ghost Of Punch and the Ghost of Toe and it would not make a bit of difference until the roster is improved. I don't think that Phil will be fired. JBOT, by doing so, would be admitting that he failed. That's where the owner steps in keeps Botterill honest. If he refuses, he can go too. It will be beyond embarrassing if PH is not fired the day after the season is over. If he isn't, you will know how serious this organization is about trying to win anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Posted March 31, 2019 Report Share Posted March 31, 2019 (edited) From AV’s wiki page ... He is known by the Vancouver media for his sense of humour and for his resemblance to Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev. Edited March 31, 2019 by Neo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted March 31, 2019 Report Share Posted March 31, 2019 8 hours ago, Neo said: From AV’s wiki page ... He is known by the Vancouver media for his sense of humour and for his resemblance to Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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