WildCard Posted April 27, 2018 Report Share Posted April 27, 2018 So...Allen.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted April 27, 2018 Report Share Posted April 27, 2018 They cannot seem to properly fill the most important position on the field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted April 27, 2018 Report Share Posted April 27, 2018 (edited) They cited that it snowed when they visited him, in addition to their points about wind and rainy games. Southern California kids Brady and Rodgers seem to be doing fine in their respective weather cities, because they're good at qb. Also, Allen is from California too.  But anyway, this is just another example in the long line of the old school check list, size, arm strength, grit, roll-out abilities, ability to execute the plays we give him to be able to succeed, mentality clashing with a more modern emphasis on pocket awareness, progressions, and creativity when your structure breaks down and impossible-to-plan-for things happen. Ideally, your QB has all of these traits. But one group will consistently draft Russell, Allen, Leaf, Boller, Losman (and fail) and also draft Favre, McNabb, Flacco, and guys like that. The other group will take Manning over Leaf, and prefer Matt Ryan to Brett Favre, and fail on guys whose names we usually forget because they don't generate a lot of mainstream media fanfare.  It's obvious which way I lean, but like all things, how staunchly the two sides represent themselves and see the other doesn't necessarily reflect accuracy of success rate. Like it or not, we're tied into Allen, and it isn't the most absurd selection on the face of the planet. We all knew it was a legitimate possibility. We just need to see how it all plays out, and hope like hell they get it worked out.  I've got almost all of my frustration out now. Even as the old-school mentality goes, Allen is hard to like, because of how well correlated his bad tape is to his bad numbers. But he's that classic old school guy, and could be teachable. You settle his feet down, you see his accuracy improve, and those isolated moments of raw talent become more frequent and are less-often punctuated with baffling throws and decisions. But you have committed to a massive project and need to be all in on him for the time being, and it is going to take a lot of work. And of course, we'll all be here watching whenever it starts, as I'm not sure he's NFL ready in September. Edited April 27, 2018 by Randall Flagg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Buffalo Posted April 27, 2018 Report Share Posted April 27, 2018 They cited that it snowed when they visited him, in addition to their points about wind and rainy games.  Southern California kids Brady and Rodgers seem to be doing fine in their respective weather cities, because they're good at qb.  Also, Allen is from California too.  But anyway, this is just another example in the long line of the old school check list, size, arm strength, grit, roll-out abilities, ability to execute the plays we give him to be able to succeed, mentality clashing with a more modern emphasis on pocket awareness, progressions, and creativity when your structure breaks down and impossible-to-plan-for things happen. Ideally, your QB has all of these traits. But one group will consistently draft Russell, Allen, Leaf, Boller, Losman (and fail) and also draft Favre, McNabb, Flacco, and guys like that. The other group will take Manning over Leaf, and prefer Matt Ryan to Brett Favre, and fail on guys whose names we usually forget because they don't generate a lot of mainstream media fanfare.  It's obvious which way I lean, but like all things, how staunchly the two sides represent themselves and see the other doesn't necessarily reflect accuracy of success rate. Like it or not, we're tied into Allen, and it isn't the most absurd selection on the face of the planet. We all knew it was a legitimate possibility. We just need to see how it all plays out, and hope like hell they get it worked out.  I've got almost all of my frustration out now. Even as the old-school mentality goes, Allen is hard to like, because of how well correlated his bad tape is to his bad numbers. But he's that classic old school guy, and could be teachable. You settle his feet down, you see his accuracy improve, and those isolated moments of raw talent become more frequent and are less-often punctuated with baffling throws and decisions. But you have committed to a massive project and need to be all in on him for the time being, and it is going to take a lot of work.  And of course, we'll all be here watching whenever it starts, as I'm not sure he's NFL ready in September. Not sure Rosen could handle the wind in Buffalo... that being said, no way Allen is ready next year.  Another year down the drain... oh well... here is to patience... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi2000 Posted April 27, 2018 Report Share Posted April 27, 2018 They cited that it snowed when they visited him, in addition to their points about wind and rainy games.  Southern California kids Brady and Rodgers seem to be doing fine in their respective weather cities, because they're good at qb.  Also, Allen is from California too.  But anyway, this is just another example in the long line of the old school check list, size, arm strength, grit, roll-out abilities, ability to execute the plays we give him to be able to succeed, mentality clashing with a more modern emphasis on pocket awareness, progressions, and creativity when your structure breaks down and impossible-to-plan-for things happen. Ideally, your QB has all of these traits. But one group will consistently draft Russell, Allen, Leaf, Boller, Losman (and fail) and also draft Favre, McNabb, Flacco, and guys like that. The other group will take Manning over Leaf, and prefer Matt Ryan to Brett Favre, and fail on guys whose names we usually forget because they don't generate a lot of mainstream media fanfare.  It's obvious which way I lean, but like all things, how staunchly the two sides represent themselves and see the other doesn't necessarily reflect accuracy of success rate. Like it or not, we're tied into Allen, and it isn't the most absurd selection on the face of the planet. We all knew it was a legitimate possibility. We just need to see how it all plays out, and hope like hell they get it worked out.  I've got almost all of my frustration out now. Even as the old-school mentality goes, Allen is hard to like, because of how well correlated his bad tape is to his bad numbers. But he's that classic old school guy, and could be teachable. You settle his feet down, you see his accuracy improve, and those isolated moments of raw talent become more frequent and are less-often punctuated with baffling throws and decisions. But you have committed to a massive project and need to be all in on him for the time being, and it is going to take a lot of work.  And of course, we'll all be here watching whenever it starts, as I'm not sure he's NFL ready in September.   Good post Flagg.  It will be interesting to see how well he does in camp and if they bring in anybody to tutor him.  The lack of a seasoned veteran on the roster is a big concern. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Crotch Posted April 27, 2018 Report Share Posted April 27, 2018 (edited) Let me get this straight... You're posting on the forum of a team that finished dead last in the NHL 3 of the past 5 seasons that our OTHER team, which made the playoffs last year (and has its own forum) is the dumbest franchise in sports? Edited April 27, 2018 by Iron Crotch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SabresBillsFan Posted April 27, 2018 Report Share Posted April 27, 2018 It all starts at the top with the GM and more importantly with the scouts, same goes for the Sabres as well. Then you wonder why both teams have had issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted April 27, 2018 Report Share Posted April 27, 2018 It all starts at the top with the GM and more importantly with the scouts, same goes for the Sabres as well. Then you wonder why both teams have had issues.  Look higher. The common denominator is higher on the org chart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CallawaySabres Posted April 27, 2018 Report Share Posted April 27, 2018 Yeah, those weather comments are really killing me. What is it, 2 bad weather games?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gramps Posted April 27, 2018 Report Share Posted April 27, 2018 They cited that it snowed when they visited him, in addition to their points about wind and rainy games.  Southern California kids Brady and Rodgers seem to be doing fine in their respective weather cities, because they're good at qb.  Also, Allen is from California too.  But anyway, this is just another example in the long line of the old school check list, size, arm strength, grit, roll-out abilities, ability to execute the plays we give him to be able to succeed, mentality clashing with a more modern emphasis on pocket awareness, progressions, and creativity when your structure breaks down and impossible-to-plan-for things happen. Ideally, your QB has all of these traits. But one group will consistently draft Russell, Allen, Leaf, Boller, Losman (and fail) and also draft Favre, McNabb, Flacco, and guys like that. The other group will take Manning over Leaf, and prefer Matt Ryan to Brett Favre, and fail on guys whose names we usually forget because they don't generate a lot of mainstream media fanfare.  It's obvious which way I lean, but like all things, how staunchly the two sides represent themselves and see the other doesn't necessarily reflect accuracy of success rate. Like it or not, we're tied into Allen, and it isn't the most absurd selection on the face of the planet. We all knew it was a legitimate possibility. We just need to see how it all plays out, and hope like hell they get it worked out.  I've got almost all of my frustration out now. Even as the old-school mentality goes, Allen is hard to like, because of how well correlated his bad tape is to his bad numbers. But he's that classic old school guy, and could be teachable. You settle his feet down, you see his accuracy improve, and those isolated moments of raw talent become more frequent and are less-often punctuated with baffling throws and decisions. But you have committed to a massive project and need to be all in on him for the time being, and it is going to take a lot of work.  And of course, we'll all be here watching whenever it starts, as I'm not sure he's NFL ready in September.  Neither Brady or Rodgers is from Southern California. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted April 27, 2018 Report Share Posted April 27, 2018 I want to know who, exactly, is going to be coaching Allen into a functional player? Who on the Bills staff is going to be doing this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted April 27, 2018 Report Share Posted April 27, 2018 I want to know who, exactly, is going to be coaching Allen into a functional player? Who on the Bills staff is going to be doing this? Terry Pegula. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted April 27, 2018 Report Share Posted April 27, 2018 Look higher. The common denominator is higher on the org chart. This. :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyldnwoody44 Posted April 27, 2018 Report Share Posted April 27, 2018 We keep supporting them, irregardless.... So does that make us all dumb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted April 27, 2018 Report Share Posted April 27, 2018 Apparently this guy is the answerhttp://prod.static.bills.clubs.nfl.com/assets/pdf/pdf-bios/Culley-David.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted April 27, 2018 Report Share Posted April 27, 2018 Apparently this guy is the answer  http://prod.static.bills.clubs.nfl.com/assets/pdf/pdf-bios/Culley-David.pdf So a guy who has spent 20 years coaching wide receivers is the new QB coach... yes, the Bills are the dumbest NFL franchise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted April 27, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 27, 2018 Let me get this straight... You're posting on the forum of a team that finished dead last in the NHL 3 of the past 5 seasons that our OTHER team, which made the playoffs last year (and has its own forum) is the dumbest franchise in sports? That really only highlights just how dumb the Bills are Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R_Dudley Posted April 27, 2018 Report Share Posted April 27, 2018 So we exhausted bitching about the Sabres and now have the Bills to jump too until the the Hockey draft I guess.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rakish Posted April 27, 2018 Report Share Posted April 27, 2018 Look higher. The common denominator is higher on the org chart.  Look, I don't believe in God either, but this is going too far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Crotch Posted April 27, 2018 Report Share Posted April 27, 2018 So we exhausted bitching about the Sabres and now have the Bills to jump too until the the Hockey draft I guess.   Pretty good summary! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunkard Posted April 27, 2018 Report Share Posted April 27, 2018 Look, I don't believe in God either, but this is going too far. Pretty sure he was talking about Pegula/Brandon and not some higher power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted April 27, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 27, 2018 Pretty sure he was talking about Pegula/Brandon and not some higher power.Rakish knows, he's joking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted April 27, 2018 Report Share Posted April 27, 2018 Look, I don't believe in God either, but this is going too far. lol, I see what you did there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunkard Posted April 27, 2018 Report Share Posted April 27, 2018 Rakish knows, he's joking My mistake. That went right over my head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyldnwoody44 Posted April 27, 2018 Report Share Posted April 27, 2018 My mistake. That went right over my head.That's why they call it a higher power.... It's taller than you ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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