3putt Posted April 30, 2017 Report Share Posted April 30, 2017 Character. The league heard TP. They will shun losers. Unless they occupy strategic tv markets. But I digress Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norcal Posted April 30, 2017 Report Share Posted April 30, 2017 Buncha in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducky Posted April 30, 2017 Report Share Posted April 30, 2017 (edited) If you are going to trade Kane, trade him for a promising young D man (+ pick) with a year or two of experience but go after Alzner as hard as you can. His salary would be somewhere around what Kane's is. Alzner immediately gives you a quality shutdown D man that solidifies your left side. He is someone I hope the Jets go after this summer because we need help on the left side. Kane should get you someone like Manson and a 2nd round pick from the Ducks. Having Manson also fills a hole on the right side if Bogo or another RHD was to be moved and he only makes 850k. Edited April 30, 2017 by Ducky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CallawaySabres Posted April 30, 2017 Report Share Posted April 30, 2017 Will there ever be good sports news in this city again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SabresBillsFan Posted April 30, 2017 Report Share Posted April 30, 2017 Draft lottery is completely stupid concept. Worst team gets first pick end of story. I get the whole idea behind it but not many teams willing to sell off every good player do rebuild. I know Buffalo did but we can all admit it hasn't worked out that well for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted April 30, 2017 Report Share Posted April 30, 2017 My bad on the draft order, I thought I had it memorized, nope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hockeyhound Posted April 30, 2017 Report Share Posted April 30, 2017 I went online to check the news about the Sabres. :( I wouldn't blame Jack Eichel if he decided to sign with another organization. Maybe the Sabres could get a high school coach interested in making a fool out of himself next season, Lee Lacocca to manage and Al Gore to clean up the toxic waste that has piled up around the Sabres organization. I don't care how much money you can throw around in an effort to land organizational talent.... Tough to get aboard a sinking ship and a perennial loser. Let's Go Sabres! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted April 30, 2017 Report Share Posted April 30, 2017 Draft lottery is completely stupid concept. Worst team gets first pick end of story. I get the whole idea behind it but not many teams willing to sell off every good player do rebuild. I know Buffalo did but we can all admit it hasn't worked out that well for us. This system sucks, but this is what you get when teams set up their rosters to lose on purpose. Tanking is bad for the league. The league had to do something to discourage it. Because teams have decided that they they will sometimes lose on purpose we get this abomination. Yay, tanking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I-90 W Posted April 30, 2017 Report Share Posted April 30, 2017 I went online to check the news about the Sabres. :( I wouldn't blame Jack Eichel if he decided to sign with another organization. Maybe the Sabres could get a high school coach interested in making a fool out of himself next season, Lee Lacocca to manage and Al Gore to clean up the toxic waste that has piled up around the Sabres organization. I don't care how much money you can throw around in an effort to land organizational talent.... Tough to get aboard a sinking ship and a perennial loser. Let's Go Sabres! We're not perennial losers; 45 seasons with a 64 percent playoff appearance percentage. Just need that cup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubkev Posted April 30, 2017 Report Share Posted April 30, 2017 We're not perennial losers; 45 seasons with a 64 percent playoff appearance percentage. Just need that cup. AKA-100% rate of failure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasmus_ Posted April 30, 2017 Report Share Posted April 30, 2017 The system is broken, but to be honest, I'm fine with #8 for Buffalo. We'll get a nice player at the slot and continue to improve our back end. Whether it's one of the Finnish defensemen or someone falls. Who knows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted April 30, 2017 Report Share Posted April 30, 2017 hehe yeah, We needed and luck and we didn't get it, blaming bettman is weird :P There doesn't have to be a good reason to blame Bettman. You keep telling yourself that. We all need a binky once in a while. The thing is, if you truly believe the league is rigged for or against teams, then continuing to follow an unfavored team is like rooting for a pro wrestler who always loses. Leave it to the NHL to come up with such a ridiculous system. How can they not give the first pick to an expansion team? What the hell is wrong with the worst team getting the top pick? BTW, Buffalo is a jinxed city apparently. WTF!!! No Sabres fan should ever ask that question. Will there ever be good sports news in this city again? Listen, pal, Terry bought the Bills and Sabres, preventing BOTH teams from leaving, and he put over 10 billion dollars in Canalside, saving the city itself, and he just bought Uber and brought them to Buffalo. What more do you want? Ungrateful much? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoPre Posted April 30, 2017 Report Share Posted April 30, 2017 Would've been nice if the Sabres won a top 3 draft pick, but the odds were slim. Not going to get ticked off Philly took it w/ a beyond low percentile of landing it. Buffalo still has an opportunity to draft a decent player. Lets look forward to the draft and possible trades that may go down. Actually, lets try to be excited about the next GM. Starting to seem as if the person Pegula wants is currently working for a team still in the playoffs. Have my fingers crossed it's Paul Fenton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted April 30, 2017 Report Share Posted April 30, 2017 This system sucks, but this is what you get when teams set up their rosters to lose on purpose. Tanking is bad for the league. The league had to do something to discourage it. Because teams have decided that they they will sometimes lose on purpose we get this abomination. Yay, tanking.Was real tanking a real problem? Pens, Devils for Lemieux, Sabres for McEichel, what other teams tanked like that? Is it any better for the league that their tanking rules didn't stop an incompetent organization this season from putting up a worse record than tanking Sabres? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabres Fan in NS Posted April 30, 2017 Report Share Posted April 30, 2017 Was real tanking a real problem? Pens, Devils for Lemieux, Sabres for McEichel, what other teams tanked like that? Is it any better for the league that their tanking rules didn't stop an incompetent organization this season from putting up a worse record than tanking Sabres? Absolutely it was / is. Listen to We've he knows what he is talking about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beer Posted April 30, 2017 Report Share Posted April 30, 2017 Would've been nice if the Sabres won a top 3 draft pick, but the odds were slim. Not going to get ticked off Philly took it w/ a beyond low percentile of landing it. Buffalo still has an opportunity to draft a decent player. Lets look forward to the draft and possible trades that may go down. Actually, lets try to be excited about the next GM. Starting to seem as if the person Pegula wants is currently working for a team still in the playoffs. Have my fingers crossed it's Paul Fenton. I hope you're right on Fenton. I'm neither happy nor sad about the 8th pick. We picked up Risto and Nylander at 8. I think we'll get a quality player but they may not be an immediate impact. Nothing wrong with that. Part of building a perennial contender is strengthening the farm system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted April 30, 2017 Report Share Posted April 30, 2017 Absolutely it was / is. Listen to We've he knows what he is talking about. Are there more instances than 2 in 30 years? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3putt Posted April 30, 2017 Report Share Posted April 30, 2017 Are there more instances than 2 in 30 years? TO last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabres Fan in NS Posted April 30, 2017 Report Share Posted April 30, 2017 Are there more instances than 2 in 30 years? The Yotes made a valiant attempt in the Eich year. It happens most every year, but not as blatantly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabre fan Posted April 30, 2017 Report Share Posted April 30, 2017 they gave us a 17% chance of winning the lottery but I knew we had a 100% chance of dropping down to as low as we could go (#8)...anyways, it really does not change what must be our new GM's first and most important mandate...adding one or two defencemen (Antipin will help)...draft is for the future and we need help now... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted April 30, 2017 Report Share Posted April 30, 2017 The Yotes made a valiant attempt in the Eich year. It happens most every year, but not as blatantly. Sorta. They certainly started to tank when their season went south, but they didn't enter the year with that as the plan. Anyway, I'm still of the opinion that a lottery doesn't change the tanking incentives much. As long as the talent distribution of the NHL draft is so strongly skewed towards the top, teams will have am incentive to go after it when rebuilding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robviously Posted April 30, 2017 Report Share Posted April 30, 2017 they gave us a 17% chance of winning the lottery but I knew we had a 100% chance of dropping down to as low as we could go (#8)...anyways, it really does not change what must be our new GM's first and most important mandate...adding one or two defencemen (Antipin will help)...draft is for the future and we need help now... We actually could have dropped 3 spots last night... :ph34r: Dropping 2 spots sucks but I still like that they've removed an incentive to tank a season. The NHL actually got one right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted April 30, 2017 Report Share Posted April 30, 2017 (edited) Was real tanking a real problem? Pens, Devils for Lemieux, Sabres for McEichel, what other teams tanked like that? Is it any better for the league that their tanking rules didn't stop an incompetent organization this season from putting up a worse record than tanking Sabres? McDavid/Eichel, Mathews, Lindros, Crosby, Lemiuex, Daigle. Ron Wilson admitted in an interview that he was ordered to tank his team. That is off the top of my head. The league got tired enough of it that they changed the rules after Ottawa blatantly tanked to draft Daigle, and updated the process twice since (notably after Regier's public pronouncement of suffering) so I would say that yes, the league sees tanking as a real problem. The league's teams have a natural ebb and flow. That can't be stopped. But adding one or more team to those on the natural ebb that are actually trying to lose denies the league one more team that it can't use in its marketing efforts. And denies all of the fanbases around the league a quality product when those teams come to their barn, Edit- remove Crosby. That was an unusual situation. Edited April 30, 2017 by We've Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabre fan Posted April 30, 2017 Report Share Posted April 30, 2017 We actually could have dropped 3 spots last night... :ph34r: Dropping 2 spots sucks but I still like that they've removed an incentive to tank a season. The NHL actually got one right. sorry, thought 8 was as high as we could go. Wow we kinda won in a strange way cause that is great for us! could be worse, we could be Vancouver who got bumped way down and they need virtually everything cause as everyone knows, they are terrible. They have no prospects and the Sundins are so past their prime. Meanwhile, it is true that this should stop tanking....and wherever we draft does not change the fact that what really matters for us is that the new GM add one of two defencemen (Antipin sounds fine and Guhle is a stud but maybe too soon for him). Whoever we get at 8 is for the future and we need help on D Now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted April 30, 2017 Report Share Posted April 30, 2017 (edited) Sorta. They certainly started to tank when their season went south, but they didn't enter the year with that as the plan. Anyway, I'm still of the opinion that a lottery doesn't change the tanking incentives much. As long as the talent distribution of the NHL draft is so strongly skewed towards the top, teams will have am incentive to go after it when rebuilding. I've said before that the problem needs to be fixed, not just by de-incentivizing it, but also by legislating away the tools to do so. For example, players under contract should only be allowed to be traded for other players under contract. Edited April 30, 2017 by We've Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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