GASabresIUFAN Posted April 23, 2017 Report Share Posted April 23, 2017 (edited) Well that's awfully limiting. Though I'm on the Fenton bandwagon, somebody like Brisebois should absolutely be a candidate. Among others.Of the experienced GM's available, who has anywhere near the track record of Lombardi? Gillis, Nonis? I think that fact puts him at the top of the experienced list. Of the up and comers, you have looked at the resumes, who was anywhere near Fenton's track record? BrisBois doesn't, either does Botterill. Both are excellent future candidates, but if Fenton is interested, I think he is a step above. He has done everything for a great managed team in Nash, including 10 years as GM of their AHL team who have gone to the playoffs for those ten straight years. I'll say this, Botterill would be a great 2nd choice. I like everything I have ever read about what he has done in Pitt and he has the advantage of youth (he is only 40). Both these guys could turn us down, and we'd have to go with plan B or C or D etc...., but these two are probably the best available. Edited April 23, 2017 by GASabresFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two or less Posted April 23, 2017 Report Share Posted April 23, 2017 Names @RealKyper says he's hearing as potential Sabres GM's include Dean Lombardi & Jim Schoenfeld, & Phil Housley as coaching candidate. This is interesting. I don't know much about what Schoenfeld has done in terms of scouting and what deals he was responsible for but he's been around a very long time from player to coach to front office and must know a lot of people. Like most of these guys, it'll be who they surround themselves with that will count for a lot. I wonder if he'd bring back Don Luce to head scouting? I also love the idea of Housley as coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabre fan Posted April 23, 2017 Report Share Posted April 23, 2017 need to do something soon...big dates coming up (draft lottery, then the draft and free agency) and we were supposedly close to signing Antipin and we need someone running the ship... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted April 23, 2017 Report Share Posted April 23, 2017 This is interesting. I don't know much about what Schoenfeld has done in terms of scouting and what deals he was responsible for but he's been around a very long time from player to coach to front office and must know a lot of people. Like most of these guys, it'll be who they surround themselves with that will count for a lot. I wonder if he'd bring back Don Luce to head scouting? I also love the idea of Housley as coach. Why do you feel that way about Phil? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted April 23, 2017 Report Share Posted April 23, 2017 Schoenfeld, great player, decent coach, but has he ever been a GM in the NHL? I know he worked for the Rags at some point, but he was never the GM. Imho there are only 2 candidates; Lombardi if we want experience, Fenton if we want long-term smart management. Not even close Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvelo Posted April 23, 2017 Report Share Posted April 23, 2017 Housley as coach, Lombardi as GM/President, Anitpin and Voynov for defense with Valimaki as top draft choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted April 23, 2017 Report Share Posted April 23, 2017 Just say no to Schoney Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted April 23, 2017 Report Share Posted April 23, 2017 (edited) Here come the journalist opinions on what we should do. TBN already going after Lombardi. Boston thinks we needs Jack's old coach for his firm hand working with Jack for one season. LV writer thinks we only have 1.3 mill in cap for next season. http://buffalonews.com/2017/04/22/inside-nhl-lombardi-red-flags-pegula-needs-study-closely/ https://www.reviewjournal.com/sports/golden-knights-nhl/sabres-looking-for-general-manager-coach-again/ https://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/bruins/2017/04/22/fluto-shinzawa-the-sabres-next-must-bring-right-coach-and-fix-culture/ntZTmkxiS4gtiDCiLseZCJ/story.html Some of the thoughts on Lombardi are valid. There is concern that if he wants the heavy system again, this won't work with our roster, but he also built San Jose. Heavy is not a word I'd use for them. Lombardi is a builder and developer. Edited April 23, 2017 by GASabresFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tondas Posted April 23, 2017 Report Share Posted April 23, 2017 I'd like to see Rick Dudley be the Pesident of Hockey Operations and hire a GM. Not sure we could get Dudley as a GM since that would be a step down from his current role as senior vice president of hockey operations for Montreal. Most teams will let an executive go for a promotion (which going from VP to President would be), but can block executives from going laterally (GM to GM) or downward in Dudley's case. So I think it would be President or nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanny Posted April 23, 2017 Report Share Posted April 23, 2017 (edited) Here come the journalist opinions on what we should do. TBN already going after Lombardi. Boston thinks we needs Jack's olle coach for is firm hand working with Jack for one season. LV writer thinks we only have 1.3 mill in cap for next season. http://buffalonews.com/2017/04/22/inside-nhl-lombardi-red-flags-pegula-needs-study-closely/ https://www.reviewjournal.com/sports/golden-knights-nhl/sabres-looking-for-general-manager-coach-again/ https://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/bruins/2017/04/22/fluto-shinzawa-the-sabres-next-must-bring-right-coach-and-fix-culture/ntZTmkxiS4gtiDCiLseZCJ/story.html Some of the thoughts on Lombardi are valid. There is concern that if he wants the heavy system again, this won't work with our roster, but he also built San Jose. Heavy is not a word I'd use for them. Lombardi is a builder and developer. LV writer confuses our cap space at end of this season vs what is tied up for next year. Weird. Also says Eichel is an RFA, which he's not Edited April 23, 2017 by Lanny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted April 23, 2017 Report Share Posted April 23, 2017 Norm McIver rumor https://twitter.com/ChuckGormleyNHL/status/855148289590792192 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted April 23, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 23, 2017 Maciver and Housley as head coach? Only thing better than that would be Fenton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beer Posted April 23, 2017 Report Share Posted April 23, 2017 I like what I read above on Fenton, seems to have a real nose for NHL caliber talent. Nashville is a solid team up and down the lineup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted April 23, 2017 Report Share Posted April 23, 2017 I'm sold on Fenton if he has the discipline and communication TP wants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted April 23, 2017 Report Share Posted April 23, 2017 I'm sold on Fenton if he has the discipline and communication TP wants. Annnnnnnd... come on... we went over this. Maciver and Housley as head coach? Only thing better than that would be Fenton Again, why Housley? What's the selling point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted April 23, 2017 Report Share Posted April 23, 2017 Annnnnnnd... come on... we went over this.I forgot the rest. Buzz words don't really impress me. Honestly I could have written tpegs a better speech with a more coherent focus. Saying words and explaining what they mean to you are separate things. Annnnnnnd... come on... we went over this. Again, why Housley? What's the selling point? Nashville's defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted April 23, 2017 Report Share Posted April 23, 2017 Nashville's defense. Isn't that really the players? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tondas Posted April 23, 2017 Report Share Posted April 23, 2017 And Housley did coach the US team to a Gold Medal at the IIHF World U20 Championship in 2013. Must be able to relate to young players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted April 23, 2017 Report Share Posted April 23, 2017 Isn't that really the players?Isn't he getting the most out of them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom webster Posted April 23, 2017 Report Share Posted April 23, 2017 Isn't that really the players? Young players developing the way they are supposed has to be partly due to good coaching though I still think coaching can be overrated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted April 23, 2017 Report Share Posted April 23, 2017 As long as there's some meat on the bone and it's not just former Sabre great, I've heard of him, he was a dynamic player so it'll be fun to watch the Sabres again, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom webster Posted April 23, 2017 Report Share Posted April 23, 2017 As long as there's some meat on the bone and it's not just former Sabre great, I've heard of him, he was a dynamic player so it'll be fun to watch the Sabres again, etc. Couldn't agree more. I don't want to exclude someone just because of past affiliation but I definitely don't want to consider someone just because of a past affiliation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted April 23, 2017 Report Share Posted April 23, 2017 As long as there's some meat on the bone and it's not just former Sabre great, I've heard of him, he was a dynamic player so it'll be fun to watch the Sabres again, etc.I don't care if he played for Boston, Buffalo, or any team. His defense has been good and that's the important part. Him playing for Buffalo 20 years ago means nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted April 23, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 23, 2017 The Sabres have hung banners in the foyer of the arena that say Communication, Structure, Character, and Discipline Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubkev Posted April 23, 2017 Report Share Posted April 23, 2017 The Sabres have hung banners in the foyer of the arena that say Communication, Structure, Character, and Discipline Could have saved money and just hung one that said "buzz words" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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