Hoss Posted October 17, 2016 Report Share Posted October 17, 2016 FWIW, Kaepernick has been a fairly prominent topic of conversation at my kids' school. I can't agree with this. The Bills earned that loss. They still should've won. They're better than the Jets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted October 17, 2016 Report Share Posted October 17, 2016 I'm more mad about the Ravens game than the Jets game, to be honest. Although if we win one of those, Roman might not be fired, and we may not have gone on this four game run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wjag Posted October 17, 2016 Report Share Posted October 17, 2016 I'm more mad about the Ravens game than the Jets game, to be honest. Although if we win one of those, Roman might not be fired, and we may not have gone on this four game run. The Ravens game was even steven accept for that one play where Wallace got free for the long TD. That one was winnable if they had made a couple of plays Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted October 17, 2016 Report Share Posted October 17, 2016 I'm more mad about the Ravens game than the Jets game, to be honest. Although if we win one of those, Roman might not be fired, and we may would not have gone on this four game run. FTFY. Plus at 1-1 Thurman probably doesn't start calling D plays either. 6-10 w/ the day 1 coaching assignments was a veeeeery real possibility. Now, take care of business in Miami (& start by double teaming Mario - that jerk is going to play hard exactly twice this year) & see what they can do against the full Cheatriots contingent. 6-2 & the drought has a real chance of being over. The more likely (assuming they do take care of business Sunday) 5-3 still gives them a shot if they stay relatively healthy. Absolutely did not see that coming as the season opened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppy22 Posted October 17, 2016 Report Share Posted October 17, 2016 You guys have no idea how... lets say ... interesting this whole... patriotic, knee down, support story for people outside the US is... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted October 17, 2016 Report Share Posted October 17, 2016 You guys have no idea how... lets say ... interesting this whole... patriotic, knee down, support story for people outside the US is... Go on........ No seriously. I'm curious about how this is seen from the outside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted October 17, 2016 Report Share Posted October 17, 2016 You guys have no idea how... lets say ... interesting this whole... patriotic, knee down, support story for people outside the US is... It's kind of .... interesting.... for some of us here, too. I'll let Peppy tell us, but I think I have an idea what he'll say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted October 17, 2016 Report Share Posted October 17, 2016 Go on........ No seriously. I'm curious about how this is seen from the outside. The very fact that we sing national anthems before domestic games is seen as pretty ludicrous, so I would imagine we're adding layers to that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted October 17, 2016 Report Share Posted October 17, 2016 FWIW, Kaepernick has been a fairly prominent topic of conversation at my kids' school. Right. what about race relations and growing tensions in the community? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wjag Posted October 17, 2016 Report Share Posted October 17, 2016 You guys have no idea how... lets say ... interesting this whole... patriotic, knee down, support story for people outside the US is... I know my German friends often marveled at two things, displaying the flag and Christmas lights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJFIVEOH Posted October 17, 2016 Report Share Posted October 17, 2016 Uh oh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted October 17, 2016 Report Share Posted October 17, 2016 (edited) I know my German friends often marveled at two things, displaying the flag and Christmas lights. My understanding is that Germans are very wary of rampant nationalism.... for some reason... Edited October 17, 2016 by High Ankle Sprain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted October 17, 2016 Report Share Posted October 17, 2016 My understanding is that Germans are very wary of rampant nationalism.... for some reason... EVERYONE WAS ON VACATION Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom webster Posted October 17, 2016 Report Share Posted October 17, 2016 They could not cover the WRs in that game They covered them fine, they just couldn't make a play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppy22 Posted October 17, 2016 Report Share Posted October 17, 2016 (edited) well obviously we are living in different countries with a different history... So I can understand that people living in different countries have a different POV on several things. I can only speak for myself but it seems like I share this opinion with most germans... It's amazing for us how a country identifies so much over an anthem or over their soldiers. Kaepernick knees during the anthem. In a "land of the free" its amazing how he is "not allowed" to stand up (or knee) for the things he believes in. If you do not agree with him, just accept his opinion. You might have a different one and thats fine. But burning his jerseys or selling shirts with a target on his head kinda works against everything you think you stay for... And btw whats the percentage of people standing up at home during the national anthem? Edited October 17, 2016 by Peppy22 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted October 17, 2016 Report Share Posted October 17, 2016 (edited) well obviously we are living in different countries with a different history... So I can understand that people living in different countries have a different POV on several things. I can only speak for myself but it seems like I share this opinion with most germans... It's amazing for us how a country identifies so much over an anthem or over their soldiers. Kaepernick knees during the anthem. In a "land of the free" its amazing how he is "not allowed" to stand up (or knee) for the things he believes in. If you do not agree with him, just accept his opinion. You might have a different one and thats fine. But burning his jerseys or selling shirts with a target on his head kinda works against everything you think you stay for... And btw whats the percentage of people standing up at home during the national anthem? This. I don't think he should kneel but he sure as hell as the right to kneel. Edited October 17, 2016 by LGR4GM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampD Posted October 17, 2016 Report Share Posted October 17, 2016 They covered them fine, they just couldn't make a play. I credit the Jets receivers for winning that game WAY more than I blame the Bills DBs for losing it. They (and Fitz) were other-worldly that night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted October 17, 2016 Report Share Posted October 17, 2016 well obviously we are living in different countries with a different history... So I can understand that people living in different countries have a different POV on several things. I can only speak for myself but it seems like I share this opinion with most germans... It's amazing for us how a country identifies so much over an anthem or over their soldiers. Kaepernick knees during the anthem. In a "land of the free" its amazing how he is "not allowed" to stand up (or knee) for the things he believes in. If you do not agree with him, just accept his opinion. You might have a different one and thats fine. But burning his jerseys or selling shirts with a target on his head kinda works against everything you think you stay for... And btw whats the percentage of people standing up at home during the national anthem? The United States of America is currently in a state of hyper-patriotic nationalism that was cultivated by the government and industry in the wake of the 9-11 terrorist attacks. "Being American" is now a source of profit and a way to get people to blindly support the government when it comes to things like military policing operations in foreign countries and accepting oppressive policy like the Patriot Act. It's been posited that there's some Vietnam hangover here related to how we treated vets back then, which has led us to swing too far the other way so that we're practically "worshiping" the ground our servicemen and women walk on. I put worshiping in quotes though, because we're still not taking very good care of our disabled vets. We don't really care about them. We just want to call ourselves "patriots" and wave the flag around a lot like it means something. I believe we'll snap out of this at some point. More and more people are growing tired of the nationalism that is calling itself patriotism. 21st Century "patriotism" has gotten ugly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampD Posted October 17, 2016 Report Share Posted October 17, 2016 It was happening way before 9-11. That just sealed the deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wjag Posted October 17, 2016 Report Share Posted October 17, 2016 (edited) It was happening way before 9-11. That just sealed the deal. Yeah, I agree. Probably goes back to WWII with a brief hiatus during the later 'Nam years. Break *--* Break One other tidbit from yesterday. I don't recall any serious injuries for the Bills in that one. Staying healthy is the key to this thing. Look at B'more. They had a hellacious day, PBurg lost Ben.. Oh an the AFC North was 0-4 yesterday.. Sweet.. Edited October 17, 2016 by wjag Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampD Posted October 17, 2016 Report Share Posted October 17, 2016 Eric Wood is eminently likable. I like Keapernick and respect what he is doing (and it is working). I find it way more offensive how the armed forces have taken over the opening of these games with there paid for ceremonies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted October 17, 2016 Report Share Posted October 17, 2016 Eric Wood is eminently likable. I like Keapernick and respect what he is doing (and it is working). I find it way more offensive how the armed forces have taken over the opening of these games with there paid for ceremonies. The military industrial complex runs everything. :ph34r: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JujuFish Posted October 17, 2016 Report Share Posted October 17, 2016 My sole complaint about Kaepernick's action is that it only serves to alienate the people who most need to hear the message. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted October 17, 2016 Report Share Posted October 17, 2016 My sole complaint about Kaepernick's action is that it only serves to alienate the people who most need to hear the message. The ones that really need to hear the message are the people that set the policies and training that result in the events that create these protests. Kneeling for a song doesn't alienate those people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dEnnis the Menace Posted October 18, 2016 Report Share Posted October 18, 2016 Bills getting Shaq back this week. No update on Mr Big Stuff yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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