bcsaberks Posted February 3, 2016 Report Share Posted February 3, 2016 I think larsson been doing fine as a 3C, could score more but we can say that about a lot of guys on this team. I like his game too, but recall GMTM publicly stating "peeps need to know their role" earlier in year and "maybe you're not a top 6" type stuff which seemed to be directed at him. Get a guy like Legwand in the room, while at a different phase of career of course, it's a nice add to even things out. "don't worry bro, I got 4th line covered and I'm good with it, 3rd is yours, do it." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted January 30, 2018 Report Share Posted January 30, 2018 Bump Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted January 30, 2018 Report Share Posted January 30, 2018 For the love of all that is sane please make this go away!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7+6=13 Posted January 30, 2018 Report Share Posted January 30, 2018 I saw Trade: Lehner on the main page and freaked out. Got me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted January 30, 2018 Report Share Posted January 30, 2018 Admittedly, there are way too many threads going right now and I've only just gotten out of work to begin reading. Also, I'm sure someone with much more knowledge than me has a more accurate tally. But here's what I've got.... Thomas Vanek was traded for: G Robin Lehner (starter) C David Legwand (3rd/4th line) LW Matt Moulson (2nd line) C Cody McCormick (4th line, enforcer) D Josh Gorges (2nd pairing, 3rd pairing in a couple years, Alternate captain) C Eric Cornel – still in CHL D Brycen Martin – still in CHL F Jack Nevins (AHL enforcer) NY Islanders’ 2015 2nd round pick (to be selected tomorrow morning) Montreal Canadiens’ 2016 7th round pick Let's not talk about four 1st-round picks from Edmonton, at least for a little while. So basically whatever we get for Lehner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huckleberry Posted January 30, 2018 Report Share Posted January 30, 2018 So basically whatever we get for Lehner. Was just thinking, damn that looks bad, at the time it was such a great haul lol . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sodbuster Posted January 30, 2018 Report Share Posted January 30, 2018 So basically whatever we get for Lehner.That Islanders pick was used on Guhle, so at least it wasn't a total mess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted January 30, 2018 Report Share Posted January 30, 2018 I have to eat some crow. The early response to the Lehner trade was very negative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattPie Posted January 30, 2018 Report Share Posted January 30, 2018 I have to eat some crow. The early response to the Lehner trade was very negative. I remember it that way; a first for an unproven GT plus taking Legwand as a cap dump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted January 30, 2018 Report Share Posted January 30, 2018 I remember it that way; a first for an unproven GT plus taking Legwand as a cap dump. I just went back and looked at February of the 2015 NHL draft thread up to that trade. It was an interesting read. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huckleberry Posted January 30, 2018 Report Share Posted January 30, 2018 I just went back and looked at February of the 2015 NHL draft thread up to that trade. It was an interesting read. I know I liked the trade at the time, 2 years later I still think we got a starter in Lehner but probably not our future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted January 30, 2018 Report Share Posted January 30, 2018 I have to eat some crow. The early response to the Lehner trade was very negative. I'm actually surprised that my response was so negative. I don't recall hating the move that much but I suppose I did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted January 30, 2018 Report Share Posted January 30, 2018 What a lot of people didn't like about the trade was taking on Legwand, but I thought he did a great job in the Blue & Gold. A steady PK guy, defensively responsible, a stabilizing influence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winston Posted January 30, 2018 Report Share Posted January 30, 2018 What a lot of people didn't like about the trade was taking on Legwand, but I thought he did a great job in the Blue & Gold. A steady PK guy, defensively responsible, a stabilizing influence. Legwand was worth it just for this highlight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted January 30, 2018 Report Share Posted January 30, 2018 I didn't post in this thread until the 16th page. I have to say this- compared to HFBoards, SS has presented a much more balanced picture of this trade. Anyone who tried to discussed any upside there was vehemently shouted down. Taken by itself, this trade is a head scratcher, but looked at in total with the ROR trade it does represent a major upgrade for the team.Also on HF, this trade is used as an example of why GMTM is a bad GM. I see it differently. He obviously has a vision for the team and is methodically assembling it. I'd much rather see a GM build his vision than "win trades." So maybe it's a terrible trade but it shows more vision than Darcy ever did. ....and I still got it wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattPie Posted January 30, 2018 Report Share Posted January 30, 2018 I didn't post in this thread until the 16th page. ....and I still got it wrong. I'm a coward, I'm not going to look to see what I posted. It's almost sure to be wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted January 30, 2018 Report Share Posted January 30, 2018 I didn't post in this thread until the 16th page. ....and I still got it wrong. You didn't though. GMTM had a vision for the team and he did execute it. The issue was the vision ended up sucking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted January 30, 2018 Report Share Posted January 30, 2018 You didn't though. GMTM had a vision for the team and he did execute it. The issue was the vision ended up sucking. Was it given enough time? I still question the real question he was fired. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted January 30, 2018 Report Share Posted January 30, 2018 Was it given enough time? I still question the real question he was fired. He wasn't fired because of the team vision. He was fired because of his terrible relationship building skills and probably his defense of Bylsma. Also that report he called Kim Pegula something unpleasant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MILFHUNTER#518 Posted January 30, 2018 Report Share Posted January 30, 2018 He wasn't fired because of the team vision. He was fired because of his terrible relationship building skills and probably his defense of Bylsma. Also that report he called Kim Pegula something unpleasant. You have a link for that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dominator Posted January 30, 2018 Report Share Posted January 30, 2018 Not a fan of this. At all. No goalie up for trade is worth a first rounder that's for sure. First move GMTM has made that I completely dislike. Way to trust your gut, Dominator of the past! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted January 30, 2018 Report Share Posted January 30, 2018 You didn't though. GMTM had a vision for the team and he did execute it. The issue was the vision ended up sucking. I was wrong in that I was in favor of XGMTM building out his vision and didn't see it for the depthless quagmire it was. Giggity giggity. Yes, you went there. Admit it. Was it given enough time? I still question the real question he was fired. Honestly I think it was lack of year-on-year improvement in terms of standings points. I think TPeg set a required metric and it was not met. Period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darryl Shannon's +/- Posted January 30, 2018 Report Share Posted January 30, 2018 Add in that his moves for a quick rebuild saddled the team with awful contracts. Going into the offseason, you knew Gorges was a 7th D at best. Moulson didn't belong in the nhl and bogo would give you 55 games max. That's 14M of the cap wasted and entirely by TM. I'm just glad we got rid of him before he panicked and made a move like signing Okposo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swedesessed Posted January 30, 2018 Report Share Posted January 30, 2018 I admit i glanced at this thread and thought Lehner got traded Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabills Posted January 30, 2018 Report Share Posted January 30, 2018 I have to eat some crow. The early response to the Lehner trade was very negative. I'm actually surprised that my response was so negative. I don't recall hating the move that much but I suppose I did. Same, went back and looked at mine because I couldn't really remember. I was still in love with Murray at that point so I could have been spinning for him. Nope, did not want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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