Hoss Posted June 5, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2016 The key is how old he was on June 30 prior to the extension taking effect. Assuming he was only 34 on that date. In which case the Wings are good. So my original interpretation of the rule was correct. My interpretation, and the apparent common interpretation considering Detroit is trying to trade the contract, is that the contract can be traded. I think the "regardless of whether or where he is playing" part just means that the NHL team that owns his rights pays the contract regardless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted June 5, 2016 Report Share Posted June 5, 2016 So my original interpretation of the rule was correct. My interpretation, and the apparent common interpretation considering Detroit is trying to trade the contract, is that the contract can be traded. I think the "regardless of whether or where he is playing" part just means that the NHL team that owns his rights pays the contract regardless. Perhaps. We'll know by October who is right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted June 5, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2016 Perhaps. We'll know by October who is right. We already know. Ken Holland and every single reporter who hasn't questioned it aren't fools. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted June 6, 2016 Report Share Posted June 6, 2016 Trouba is being targeted by the Avs for Barrie per Friedman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted June 6, 2016 Report Share Posted June 6, 2016 Trouba is being targeted by the Avs for Barrie per Friedman  I hope the dream doesn't die this way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted June 6, 2016 Report Share Posted June 6, 2016 (edited) I would have no problem adding Barrie. He is a good player, but he is not the answer. Not as extreme, but it would be kinda like adding Phil Housley. Edited June 6, 2016 by dudacek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted June 6, 2016 Report Share Posted June 6, 2016 Trouba is being targeted by the Avs for Barrie per Friedman Trouba was terrible this year, would be such an Avs thing to do. Â Ok, maybe not terrible, but definitely sub-par. Especially watching in person. He's trended down since his rookie year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ct fab Posted June 6, 2016 Report Share Posted June 6, 2016 We don't need another RHD unless the plan is to trade Bogo and #8 to Edm for #4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasmus_ Posted June 6, 2016 Report Share Posted June 6, 2016 Trouba is a much more physical presence than Barrie, but for what we need Barrie is definitely the better fit albeit another RHD.  If we're moving for a younger D (RFA), Bogo has to be included I would imagine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted June 6, 2016 Report Share Posted June 6, 2016 We don't need another RHD unless the plan is to trade Bogo and #8 to Edm for #4 I would trade them #38 and Bogosian for #4. Â I am not trading a top 4 vet defender and the 8th overall pick to move up 4 spots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasmus_ Posted June 6, 2016 Report Share Posted June 6, 2016 I would trade them #38 and Bogosian for #4. Â I am not trading a top 4 vet defender and the 8th overall pick to move up 4 spots. Â That makes a lot of sense, it's just whether Chiarelli believes he's what they need to fix their defensive woes. Â Getting #4, and having #8, would allow us to take Tkachuk and whatever D falls. Â I would love that situation. Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted June 6, 2016 Report Share Posted June 6, 2016 I would trade them #38 and Bogosian for #4. Â I am not trading a top 4 vet defender and the 8th overall pick to move up 4 spots. Â And just like that, years of painstaking, steady progress is wiped away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ct fab Posted June 6, 2016 Report Share Posted June 6, 2016 I would trade Bogo and #38 all day for #4. Unfortunately edm won't Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted June 6, 2016 Report Share Posted June 6, 2016 And just like that, years of painstaking, steady progress is wiped away. sigh. Yes I am giving you a sigh.  Why?  Well I said what I would trade to move up 4 spots in this draft. It isn't a top 4 defender and the #8 pick. That's just such an overpayment in my mind. Do I think Edmonton would trade #4 for what I proposed, nope but that doesn't really matter.  Trading 1 of the 2 top 4 guys you have on a team for a draft pick is stupid. Gorges isn't getting younger, Jake McCabe is a question mark, Pysyk disappointed me, Nelson is almost a complete unknown. That's pretty much it. You have Ristolainen and Bogosian as actual legit top 4 defenders. Sorry I am not joining the Bogo Bunker Brigade.  To me Zach Bogosian is worth more than getting a potential defender who in 2-4 years could be as good as him. Could they be better? Yes they could but this isn't like we are drafting Aaron Ekblad at #4. We are drafting 1 of a host of guys who aren't sure fire top 2 defenders. There is risk there. So again sigh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted June 6, 2016 Report Share Posted June 6, 2016 sigh. Yes I am giving you a sigh.  Why?  Well I said what I would trade to move up 4 spots in this draft. It isn't a top 4 defender and the #8 pick. That's just such an overpayment in my mind. Do I think Edmonton would trade #4 for what I proposed, nope but that doesn't really matter.  Trading 1 of the 2 top 4 guys you have on a team for a draft pick is stupid. Gorges isn't getting younger, Jake McCabe is a question mark, Pysyk disappointed me, Nelson is almost a complete unknown. That's pretty much it. You have Ristolainen and Bogosian as actual legit top 4 defenders. Sorry I am not joining the Bogo Bunker Brigade.  To me Zach Bogosian is worth more than getting a potential defender who in 2-4 years could be as good as him. Could they be better? Yes they could but this isn't like we are drafting Aaron Ekblad at #4. We are drafting 1 of a host of guys who aren't sure fire top 2 defenders. There is risk there. So again sigh.  Well, I interpreted your post as you proposing it as a realistic trade possibility. Since you didn't mean it that way (although you might've said something like "I wouldn't give Edmonton any more than XYZ for #4, and I wouldn't expect them to agree"), then I withdraw my gibe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted June 6, 2016 Report Share Posted June 6, 2016 Well, I interpreted your post as you proposing it as a realistic trade possibility. Since you didn't mean it that way (although you might've said something like "I wouldn't give Edmonton any more than XYZ for #4, and I wouldn't expect them to agree"), then I withdraw my gibe. I wouldn't give anymore then x,y,z for #4 and I wouldn't expect Edmonton to agree with me. :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted June 6, 2016 Report Share Posted June 6, 2016 Also from Jimmy Murphy do not count The Habs out of the Jimmy Vesey Sweepstakes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted June 7, 2016 Report Share Posted June 7, 2016 This morning on WGR, Matthew Coller said he has heard Edmonton is interested in Bogosian (hour 1 ~22 minutes in). Fire up the trade machine boys n girls! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derrico Posted June 7, 2016 Report Share Posted June 7, 2016 This morning on WGR, Matthew Coller said he has heard Edmonton is interested in Bogosian (hour 1 ~22 minutes in). Fire up the trade machine boys n girls! Bogo and 8 get us 4? Â Then my worry is GMTM is trading up for Chychrun and not Tkachuk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted June 7, 2016 Report Share Posted June 7, 2016 This morning on WGR, Matthew Coller said he has heard Edmonton is interested in Bogosian (hour 1 ~22 minutes in). Fire up the trade machine boys n girls! He's heard it from posters on the Internet. As much as I love me some Tkachuk, Bogo and 8 for 4 makes me want to spew. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted June 7, 2016 Report Share Posted June 7, 2016 Rivet said that he things Pysyk and 8 would be enough to land 4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derrico Posted June 7, 2016 Report Share Posted June 7, 2016 I know it's been said there is little difference between 4-12 in many scouts minds. I also know and agree with TBG that the beauty of Eichel is he makes who he is playing with better and we don't have to search for his ideal winger.  Saying that, I'm excited by the smoke out there we are looking to trade up to 4.  Tkchuk is the perfect fit to play with Reinhart and Eichel. Kid is a beast along the boards and behind the net. Plus he can put the puck in the net. Reinhart Eichel Tkchuk for the next decade is like a wet dream...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted June 7, 2016 Report Share Posted June 7, 2016 Rivet said that he things Pysyk and 8 would be enough to land 4.  Interesting.  Without knowing anything about who would likely be there at #4 relative to #8, I think I would do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunkard Posted June 7, 2016 Report Share Posted June 7, 2016 (edited) If we trade on of our RHD to Edmonton we should also get them to throw in one of their LHD players or prospects. From my understanding they have more LHD than we have RHD so it shouldn't be hard to get one of them if we put up Bogosian or Pysyk. Edited June 7, 2016 by Drunkard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted June 7, 2016 Report Share Posted June 7, 2016 He's heard it from posters on the Internet. As much as I love me some Tkachuk, Bogo and 8 for 4 makes me want to spew. Matt Coller does have some good sources. He was talking about Babcock's Interest in the Sabres starting in Jan 2015. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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