Huckleberry Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 If they really want a 3rd after firing byslma themselves then it. Say you give them a fourth now and get back at the 2016 draft. :p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 (edited) But from the Pens' point of view, don't you think they might have the Sabres over a barrel? The Sabres can't let Bylsma too slip away, and Pegula certainly has a reputation of someone who's willing to overspend (in this case, being willing to give up the highest of the picks). They can let him slip away. Actually, they should be making a show of courting Richardson. Edited May 28, 2015 by Eleven Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 So if enough lazy journalists repeat the same thing enough, it becomes true? Here's the press release from the team. http://penguins.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=721953 The Penguins were careful with what they did here. They're entitled to the benefit of the rule, as distasteful as that may seem. Careful? How can that be? The rule did not even exist at the time. They were being "polite" by saying that he was "relieved" which is a euphemism for being fired. Here is the press release you link: Dan Bylsma has been relieved of his duties as head coach of the Pittsburgh Penguins, it was announced today by Executive Vice President and General Manager Jim Rutherford. Bylsma had coached the Penguins for five-plus seasons, compiling a record of 252-117-32 and leading the team to the Stanley Cup in 2009. “Dan is a good man and a good coach, but I thought we needed a change in direction moving forward,” Rutherford said. “I have no doubt that he will go on to be a head coach in the National Hockey League and have success. The search for our new head coach will begin immediately.” “We want to thank Dan for everything he has done for the Penguins organization,” co-owners Mario Lemieux and Ron Burkle said in a joint statement. “He’ll always be remembered as a big part of Pittsburgh sports history for his role in our Stanley Cup championship in 2009. We wish all the best to him and his family.” Assistant coaches Tony Granato, Todd Reirden and Jacques Martin, goaltending coach Mike Bales and video coordinator Andy Saucier will be evaluated by Rutherford and the incoming head coach. Rutherford will evaluate the remainder of the hockey operations staff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 This rule they created shouldn't apply to coaches who were fired and the fact they don't have language to that affect, :wallbash: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabills Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 We have 3 thirds next year give them one and call it a day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabres Fan in NS Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 FWIW we should get an official hiring today. NHL won't want this hanging over two game sevens on Friday and Saturday (yeah eleven, sevens!) 2 7s, eh? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qdqPGPWVGA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X. Benedict Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 I wonder how this sits with the NHLPA. To have a RFA market, there needs to be a certain amount of liquidity when it comes to players and picks. If coaches and administration are going to tie up picks, then that really dries up any RFA liquidity and the signing of offer sheets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kruppstahl Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 (edited) Was this article posted yet? http://espn.go.com/blog/nhl/post/_/id/35839/teams-can-seek-draft-pick-compensation-for-fired-coaches-gms-executives Follow Bob McKenzieVerified account@TSNBobMcKenzie Some of teams that supported defined compensation didn't believe it would apply to "fired" coaches/GMs. But it does. Edited May 28, 2015 by Kruppstahl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 Adam Benigni @AdamBenigni 5m5 minutes ago Note: Told that compensation issue on the Bylsma #Sabres #Pens issue is between clubs at this point... Not determined at NHL level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kruppstahl Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 Adam Benigni @AdamBenigni 5m5 minutes ago Note: Told that compensation issue on the Bylsma #Sabres #Pens issue is between clubs at this point... Not determined at NHL level. Yep. Pittsburgh is getting help by getting Bylsma off their books; Murray should tell them to take that 3rd rounder and shove it. See article linked in Post #58 above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 (edited) It's been confirmed the Oilers had to compensate the Bruins for Chiarelli. Shouldn't they also have to compensate the Sharks for McLellan? Wasn't deBoer still under contract to the Devils? Isn't Rutherford making enemies by asking for compensation for Bylsma, but not for Shero? Finally, weren't a lot of officials pissed at the Sabres about the Tim Murray search and that was one of the reasons this rule was instituted in the first place? Edited May 28, 2015 by dudacek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CallawaySabres Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 Never easy in Buffalo is it.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 Careful? How can that be? The rule did not even exist at the time. They were being "polite" by saying that he was "relieved" which is a euphemism for being fired. Here is the press release you link: Dan Bylsma has been relieved of his duties as head coach of the Pittsburgh Penguins, it was announced today by Executive Vice President and General Manager Jim Rutherford. Bylsma had coached the Penguins for five-plus seasons, compiling a record of 252-117-32 and leading the team to the Stanley Cup in 2009. “Dan is a good man and a good coach, but I thought we needed a change in direction moving forward,” Rutherford said. “I have no doubt that he will go on to be a head coach in the National Hockey League and have success. The search for our new head coach will begin immediately.” “We want to thank Dan for everything he has done for the Penguins organization,” co-owners Mario Lemieux and Ron Burkle said in a joint statement. “He’ll always be remembered as a big part of Pittsburgh sports history for his role in our Stanley Cup championship in 2009. We wish all the best to him and his family.” Assistant coaches Tony Granato, Todd Reirden and Jacques Martin, goaltending coach Mike Bales and video coordinator Andy Saucier will be evaluated by Rutherford and the incoming head coach. Rutherford will evaluate the remainder of the hockey operations staff. Words matter. They continued to employ him so that they could have some measure of control over where he went. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 Never easy in Buffalo is it.... Well said. I dream of the day visiting this board isn't like reading lecture notes and having to do homework. A real hockey team, real games to discuss. Please, soon! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 (edited) Point being, you can't have been fired when you're still on your employer's payroll. Bylsma wasn't fired. Other terms and conditions of his employment changed - namely, his duties. Edited May 28, 2015 by That Aud Smell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 Bylsma..... Bylsma..... Bylsma..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MBHockey13 Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 Considering Pittsburgh stellar record of hitting of draft picks in the later rounds over the last ten years, I'm not sure this even matters. I'd love to revisit this to see what future superstar they hit on with one of our 3rd round picks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 Official: Buffalo Sabres @BuffaloSabres BREAKING NEWS: Dan Bylsma has been named the 17th head coach in #Sabres franchise history. #WelcomeDan pic.twitter.com/vQ6FbdPDnY 2:57pm · 28 May 2015 · Twitter for iPhone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 Darren Dreger @DarrenDreger 2m2 minutes ago Bylsma officially hired by Sabres. Give up a 3rd round pick next year as compensation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 Official: Buffalo Sabres @BuffaloSabres BREAKING NEWS: Dan Bylsma has been named the 17th head coach in #Sabres franchise history. #WelcomeDan pic.twitter.com/vQ6FbdPDnY 2:57pm · 28 May 2015 · Twitter for iPhone Nice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 Newser at 4 p.m. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 Bill Hoppe @BillHoppeNHL 33s34 seconds ago Dan Bylsma's hiring is official. There's a 4 p.m. news conference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MBHockey13 Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 (edited) Official: Buffalo Sabres @BuffaloSabres BREAKING NEWS: Dan Bylsma has been named the 17th head coach in #Sabres franchise history. #WelcomeDan pic.twitter.com/vQ6FbdPDnY 2:57pm · 28 May 2015 · Twitter for iPhone How do you like this for fate? IT'S BATTISTA! Disco...Sabre...Penn State... The Disco Biscuits : Sabre Dance @ Penn State Edited May 28, 2015 by MBHockey13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samson's Flow Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 Bill Hoppe @BillHoppeNHL 33s34 seconds ago Dan Bylsma's hiring is official. There's a 4 p.m. news conference. Cool. Glad we got the (seemingly) next choice of GMTM. (although a Richardson hiring would have solidified my Tom Webster contest predictions :P ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 a quality hire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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