beerme1 Posted November 6, 2014 Report Share Posted November 6, 2014 Not me. me either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted November 6, 2014 Report Share Posted November 6, 2014 The point being that if you can only get a draft pick (3rd rounder) for stewart than is it worth you having to force a young kid to play in his spot to finish a crappy season? If Stewart goes for garbage and then Armia gets taken off the amerks for the last 20 games is that worth it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derrico Posted November 6, 2014 Report Share Posted November 6, 2014 Depends on if it can finish off a tank :ph34r: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claude_Verret Posted November 6, 2014 Report Share Posted November 6, 2014 Depends on if it can finish off a tank :ph34r: Everything that has or will be done this year is with this in mind. Everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3putt Posted November 6, 2014 Report Share Posted November 6, 2014 The point being that if you can only get a draft pick (3rd rounder) for stewart than is it worth you having to force a young kid to play in his spot to finish a crappy season? If Stewart goes for garbage and then Armia gets taken off the amerks for the last 20 games is that worth it? Yes. Part of the process is to see how these prospects handle the higher level of competition as well as to showcase then in the event that you have a bounty in one area and are willing to trade for to supplement an area you are trying to improve. Hockey trades not picks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted November 6, 2014 Report Share Posted November 6, 2014 Yes. Part of the process is to see how these prospects handle the higher level of competition as well as to showcase then in the event that you have a bounty in one area and are willing to trade for to supplement an area you are trying to improve. Hockey trades not picks. So it is worth taking a player from a winning team to plug a whole on the titanic that you could drive a building through? I disagree. I don't care if Stewart stays or goes but trading him for a late pick is worthless. If they can get a serviceable player that makes more sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robviously Posted November 6, 2014 Report Share Posted November 6, 2014 The point being that if you can only get a draft pick (3rd rounder) for stewart than is it worth you having to force a young kid to play in his spot to finish a crappy season? If Stewart goes for garbage and then Armia gets taken off the amerks for the last 20 games is that worth it? They won't *have to* bring Armia up. They could keep Larsson up. Or Schaller. Or ask the other team to throw in a Torrey Mitchell type to fill out our roster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sicknfla Posted November 6, 2014 Report Share Posted November 6, 2014 They won't *have to* bring Armia up. They could keep Larsson up. Or Schaller. Or ask the other team to throw in a Torrey Mitchell type to fill out our roster. Exactly. Also keep in mind any void you leave in Rochester can be filled wity the guys in juniors- like Bailey, Reinhart, and Baptiste once their season is over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derrico Posted November 6, 2014 Report Share Posted November 6, 2014 Even if we rush Armia by 20 or whatever games by having to bring him up I would still take that potential beating to his development and Eichel then 20 games in the A for Armia and Zacha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTS Posted November 6, 2014 Report Share Posted November 6, 2014 Everything that has or will be done this year is with this in mind. Everything. We'll know once the Sabres play the Islanders and Blues. In order to do everything required they would need to take out a few key players on each team to help them lose more. :w00t: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted November 6, 2014 Report Share Posted November 6, 2014 So we could try and sign them to new contracts. Like if the chance of signing Stewart to a new deal is more valuable than the potential return. That's the argument at least. It doesn't work if they aren't in the plans, but either could play roles. The premise of the post I was responding to was that the Sabres would not be re-signing them. ;) So it is worth taking a player from a winning team to plug a whole on the titanic that you could drive a building through? I disagree. I don't care if Stewart stays or goes but trading him for a late pick is worthless. If they can get a serviceable player that makes more sense. What makes you think Stewart is only worth a late pick when we are only a couple seasons removed from Gaustad being traded for a 1st round pick? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robviously Posted November 6, 2014 Report Share Posted November 6, 2014 Myers to Dallas rumors on Twitter again today. His offense could do a lot for that team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3putt Posted November 6, 2014 Report Share Posted November 6, 2014 So it is worth taking a player from a winning team to plug a whole on the titanic that you could drive a building through? I disagree. I don't care if Stewart stays or goes but trading him for a late pick is worthless. If they can get a serviceable player that makes more sense. A winning AHL team is irrelevant. They serve the needs of the big club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted November 6, 2014 Report Share Posted November 6, 2014 (edited) What makes you think Stewart is only worth a late pick when we are only a couple seasons removed from Gaustad being traded for a 1st round pick? I think the market corrected itself last season when Vanek went for a 2nd round pick and a prospect. A winning AHL team is irrelevant. They serve the needs of the big club. Unless the big club is abysmal and developing a winning mentality among your prospects is at hand. Edited November 6, 2014 by inkman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3putt Posted November 7, 2014 Report Share Posted November 7, 2014 All the winning attitude at the minor league level is meaningless. You test a players talent and resolve in the show. The alternative is to accumulate a bunch of successful minor leaguers. Perrenial minor leaguers. I also realize I am in the minority in this position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted November 7, 2014 Report Share Posted November 7, 2014 I think the market corrected itself last season when Vanek went for a 2nd round pick and a prospect. I believe Collberg is a very good prospect though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rakish Posted November 7, 2014 Report Share Posted November 7, 2014 All the winning attitude at the minor league level is meaningless. You test a players talent and resolve in the show. The alternative is to accumulate a bunch of successful minor leaguers. Perrenial minor leaguers. I also realize I am in the minority in this position. But not alone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted November 7, 2014 Report Share Posted November 7, 2014 All the winning attitude at the minor league level is meaningless. You test a players talent and resolve in the show. The alternative is to accumulate a bunch of successful minor leaguers. Perrenial minor leaguers. I also realize I am in the minority in this position. ...and alienate an entire city from its once proud franchise with a bunch of scrubs, nobodies and never was'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Dwight Drane Posted November 7, 2014 Report Share Posted November 7, 2014 Myers to Dallas rumors on Twitter again today. His offense could do a lot for that team. Hahaha!!! I'll save the drunk step-dad and bath time metaphors for now..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubkev Posted November 7, 2014 Report Share Posted November 7, 2014 Myers to Dallas rumors on Twitter again today. His offense could do a lot for that team. Sarcasm? This has to be sarcasm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasmus_ Posted November 7, 2014 Report Share Posted November 7, 2014 One thing about Myers offense, he is putting a lot of pucks on net without much return for your investment. That is at least somewhat encouraging? Myers in Dallas would be a blessing for a team that doesn't have much of a pulse back there aside from Trevor Daley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted November 7, 2014 Report Share Posted November 7, 2014 Does Myers hide under a chair and weep if he is traded to a Lindy Ruff coached team? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samson's Flow Posted November 7, 2014 Report Share Posted November 7, 2014 Does Myers hide under a chair and weep if he is traded to a Lindy Ruff coached team? Probably. He also invests in a full cage helmet to prevent repeated blows to the head from Lindy's stick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted November 7, 2014 Report Share Posted November 7, 2014 One thing about Myers offense, he is putting a lot of pucks on net without much return for your investment. That is at least somewhat encouraging? Myers in Dallas would be a blessing for a team that doesn't have much of a pulse back there aside from Trevor Daley. Goligoski? I think he actually has more offensive upside than Daley, despite Daley's torrid start from an offensive perspective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasmus_ Posted November 7, 2014 Report Share Posted November 7, 2014 Goligoski? I think he actually has more offensive upside than Daley, despite Daley's torrid start from an offensive perspective. Daley is producing more at this point. Just to clarify on my original statement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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