North Buffalo Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 Interesting trade, I think the Sabres did well generally and if Molson wants to go elsewhere, the Sabres can pick up another draft choice. Though I am sad to see Vanek go. Wow, we all knew it would happen but now that it has happened, all I can say is I am shocked. My next statement is don't let Darcy draft a center, give that authority to someone else because he clearly has no clue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CallawaySabres Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 What in the world did people want for Vanek? No way were they going to get blue chip prospects with a posible MN team in play. If they would have waited until the deadline they would have gotten less, MUCH less. Put the hatred for Darcy aside for a moment and be glad this happened when it did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 (edited) like that the move has been made. Like the picks. Moulson can score and will be more interested than TV seemed. trade deadline will be interesting. Miller is next and should fetch more as goaltending can win championships. With respect, you're crazy if you think Miller is fetching anywhere near what Vanek did, let alone more. Edited October 28, 2013 by TrueBluePhD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jsixspd Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 Vanek's fleas are better, though. I will definitely miss Thomas V. He was one of my favorite Sabres. When Regier rolled out his "rebuilding" meme last spring, we knew it would be the end of the good veterans - because guys like Vanek and Miller are not going to be happy in such a situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Campy Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 I thought they would have gotten more. Darcy got two top picks next year and an underrated goal scorer who they may or may not be able to re-sign, the Isles got Vanek's services until he signs with Minnesota in 8 months. I think it's a terrific trade. Say what you will about Darcy, he gets A LOT in return when he makes trades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 This is part of the reason I wanted Darcy around until the end of the year. He's a master salesman. But no good after that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 Does knowing that the 1st round pick will likely end up in the later half of the round phase anyone right now? and in a weak draft year no less? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunomatic Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 Honestly they got more than I thought they would considering Vaneks pending UFA. The picks now and the picks for Moulson at the deadline. At some point we're flippin picks for players that can help now rather than later I'd think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robviously Posted October 28, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 Does knowing that the 1st round pick will likely end up in the later half of the round phase anyone right now? and in a weak draft year no less? Yes. I would have rather had a 2015 1st and 2014 2nd this time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 We already had three 2nd rounders this year. This draft class is "weak" because there isn't considered to be a whole lot of talent at the very top. Doesn't mean that the talent towards the end isn't strong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Crotch Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 Darcy is like a cockroach. Nuclear war... the apocalypse... nothing can kill Darcy. Nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kooshari Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 Darcy got two top picks next year and an underrated goal scorer who they may or may not be able to re-sign, the Isles got Vanek's services until he signs with Minnesota in 8 months. I think it's a terrific trade. Say what you will about Darcy, he gets A LOT in return when he makes trades. Actually, he gets a lot of POTENTIAL in return. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HopefulFuture Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 Darcy is like a cockroach. Nuclear war... the apocalypse... nothing can kill Darcy. Nothing. This is some funny ###### right here. :) On a side note, I'd go into stitches if he moves Moulson for another 1st or more, wouldn't that just put the icing on this trade...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derrico Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 Does knowing that the 1st round pick will likely end up in the later half of the round phase anyone right now? and in a weak draft year no less? We will see. Vanek will obviously help them but they don't have great D or goaltending from the parts of games I've watched. If this turns into a lottery pick then the trade is well worth it for a rental. If not, I still think we made the right move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJFIVEOH Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 Seriously, how can anybody actually predict if a draft class will be weak or not this far in advance? How in the hell is a GM supposed to rebuild AND wait around for a draft class that suits him? Man, seriously grasping at straws. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derrico Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 Dave Davis @DaveDavisHockey 20m Decent return for Vanek. That's now 17 1st/2nd round picks for the Sabres from 2012-2015 - and counting... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJFIVEOH Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 What in the world did people want for Vanek? No way were they going to get blue chip prospects with a posible MN team in play. If they would have waited until the deadline they would have gotten less, MUCH less. Put the hatred for Darcy aside for a moment and be glad this happened when it did. Good post. I'm devastated to see Vanek go. But considering the circumstances I think he made out well. Even better if they keep Moulson OR manage a 1st+ at the deadline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SabresBillsFan Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 And now it's a four-year rebuild instead of three, I guess. It's not over yet Miller, Ott, and Moulson all will be gone by deadline. No way Moulson stays for this crap. It's going to be a long long rebuild. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jsixspd Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 (edited) How in the hell is a GM supposed to rebuild AND wait around for a draft class that suits him? Man, seriously grasping at straws. A GM rebuilding the team he built. The whole notion is just so very interesting - like a home builder building a ###### house, and then declaring it's no good - and that he has gotta tear it down and start again. LOL And outside observers would expect the second home made by the same builder to be better than the first? Edited October 28, 2013 by Jsixspd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 this is a great trade for buffalo. darcy will NOT be the GM for the 2014 draft. they will keep him around until miller is dealt, then he gets fired. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesportsbuff Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 Seriously, how can anybody actually predict if a draft class will be weak or not this far in advance? How in the hell is a GM supposed to rebuild AND wait around for a draft class that suits him? Man, seriously grasping at straws. Well it's not like it's the kids' first year playing hockey. The people who scout them for a living have an eye for talent, I'm sure most teams already have early projections for the next two or even three years of draft eligible players. At this time last year we were all well aware of MacKinnon, Drouin, Jones... Barkov became a mainstream name shortly after. Didn't take long for Nichushkin, Monahan, etc to enter the mix. The only household name people know this year is Reinhart and I'm guessing anyone who isn't as hardcore a hockey fan as most of us are wouldn't even know that. I don't watch any junior leagues so I have limited knowledge on up and coming prospects, but I think it's safe to say this year's draft doesn't really compare with last years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 Actually, he gets a lot of POTENTIAL in return. The concept of trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 If Moulson were a guy that played on a Stanley Cup team or two, I would think he might consider staying. But considering he's spend his career struggling on the Island then I don't see him staying around. Also, I don't think the Islanders will be getting out of the first round or two. This pick could be anywhere from 12-22ish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Campy Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 Actually, he gets a lot of POTENTIAL in return. Okay, we can play the semantics game if you'd like. But a lot of potential is better than having a FA leave and getting nothing, is it not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SabresBillsFan Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 Darcy did well with this trade. Not many teams have 7 million cap space to work with so he was limited to only so many teams. I see Moulson getting dealt by deadline. Miller, Ott and Moulson you 3 are all up! It's just a matter of when and where. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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