Sabres Trade JJ Peterka to Utah for Defenseman Michael Kesselring and Forward Josh Doan

[LGR4GM]

Josh Doan interview

 

 

[Thorny]

One thing I can't stand is how revisionist some media members are. “Well you hated the Savoie trade so shut up” isn’t a good argument. 
 

^99/100 sabres fans 

[Flashsabre]

There were a ton of whispers about the dressing room having guys with bad attitudes not focused on the right things. I think Cozens and JJ were two main culprits that Lindy weeded out.  Interesting to see who else moves. I think Quinn might be on the outs too.

[Thorny]

3 minutes ago, Flashsabre said:

There were a ton of whispers about the dressing room having guys with bad attitudes not focused on the right things. I think Cozens and JJ were two main culprits that Lindy weeded out.  Interesting to see who else moves. I think Quinn might be on the outs too.

What is in the water in Buffalo! 

Kids running wild down there 

[LGR4GM]

8 minutes ago, Thorny said:

One thing I can't stand is how revisionist some media members are. “Well you hated the Savoie trade so shut up” isn’t a good argument. 
 

^99/100 sabres fans 

Idk what Harrington is smoking. Most of us liked the trade. 

[That Aud Smell]

2 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

Idk what Harrington is smoking. Most of us liked the trade. 

TBF, Harrington doesn't need to smoke anything in order to come off as a doofus.

[Thorny]

10 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

Idk what Harrington is smoking. Most of us liked the trade. 

Like I get I am exaggerating in that plenty were questioning it, but a TON liked it and a lot of those people REALLY liked it. I hate this weird default that all the fans that are unhappy with the team are disingenuous losers who are just pretending to be mad for clout. Why would I/we praise the Savoie trade then? We weren’t hesitant to praise Adams when we THOUGHT he was doing something in the name of winning - why does the argument exist we’d be unhappy still if we actually did win? It’s nonsensical and I just proved it 

He and others just want to see the fans as an irrationally angry monolith that has no right to be angry cause they couldn’t do better (than professionals) anyway and they are just lying about wanting the base minimum success, and complain just to complain, who complain just because “it makes sense to assume the worst with the sabres” as I SO often see mentioned here by a lot of people 

no - we aren’t assuming the worst, the transactions and practices have certain patterns we pick up on 

a pick for player broke trend - praise 

if we don’t trade Byram for an underutilized shoot first forward with upside I’ll be happy 

Edited 4 hours ago by Thorny

[MISabresFan]

Trade a top line player in return for a 3rd line defenseman and 4th line player.

It is hard to find good players in any professional sport.  Buffalo traded a good player.  

[7+6=13]

3 hours ago, klos1963 said:

They didn't really have great success in Buffalo,  so no,  that's not who i meant.

Care to take another guess? Clue- their names are on the cup.

Care to include the names of the players that didn't play well so that your false narrative gets corrected?

[SabresBillsFan]

6 hours ago, Jorcus said:

 

Robertson would be an ideal left winger for Thompson.

Robertson isn’t that fast of a skater, just giving everyone a heads up!

[thewookie1]

15 minutes ago, Thorny said:

One thing I can't stand is how revisionist some media members are. “Well you hated the Savoie trade so shut up” isn’t a good argument. 
 

^99/100 sabres fans 

It was more 50/50 to be perfectly honest. Nigh all fans liked the idea of trading a prospect for a NHLer but it was a toss up on value given versus received.

[Turbo44]

2 minutes ago, MISabresFan said:

Trade a top line player in return for a 3rd line defenseman and 4th line player.

It is hard to find good players in any professional sport.  Buffalo traded a good player.  

Top line player with bad analytics (and really bad analytics without tage) for a 2ND line dman and a 3rd/4th line player with elite forechecking analytics. I’m the first to admit I didn’t like the trade but then I researched it and it makes sense. Scoring a ton is great unless you’re getting scored on even more when you’re on the ice

1 minute ago, SabresBillsFan said:

Robertson isn’t that fast of a skater, just giving everyone a heads up!

Yep but that’s not needed as tage drives the play. Robertson is an elite defensive forward who also would get 100 points with tage. I give whatever is needed to get him but I highly doubt Dallas trades him

[LGR4GM]

Kesselring interview

 

[French Collection]

Just now, LGR4GM said:

Josh Doan interview

 

 

Kid speaks well.

Growing up around the NHL helps in that regard, but he also sounds intelligent. I like hearing that fans will love Kesselring first as a person then as a player.

He also sounds like there is some leadership inside and he admits being a hockey nerd.

[COSabreFan]

Must have been bad behind the scenes to trade one of your top line wingers for a 3rd line defenseman and 4th line forward from a expansion team.

I hope JJ knows about the drinking scene in state of Utah.

[Thorny]

1 minute ago, COSabreFan said:

Must have been bad behind the scenes to trade one of your top line wingers for a 3rd line defenseman and 4th line forward from a expansion team.

I hope JJ knows about the drinking scene in state of Utah.

Adams didn’t thank him in his release either lol do they hate the guy? 

[SabresBillsFan]

1 minute ago, COSabreFan said:

Must have been bad behind the scenes to trade one of your top line wingers for a 3rd line defenseman and 4th line forward from a expansion team.

I hope JJ knows about the drinking scene in state of Utah.

JJ can wear that special Mormon underwear 

[LGR4GM]

2 minutes ago, COSabreFan said:

Must have been bad behind the scenes to trade one of your top line wingers for a 3rd line defenseman and 4th line forward from a expansion team.

I hope JJ knows about the drinking scene in state of Utah.

Utah isn't an expansion team. 

[klos1963]

15 minutes ago, 7+6=13 said:

Care to include the names of the players that didn't play well so that your false narrative gets corrected?

I have a better idea,  how about i just confirm my initial statement without you misinterpreting it. 

Eichel, ROR, Reinhart, Montour played well in Buffalo and didn't regress once they left. 

[MISabresFan]

Just now, Turbo44 said:

Top line player with bad analytics (and really bad analytics without tage) for a 2ND line dman and a 3rd/4th line player with elite forechecking analytics. I’m the first to admit I didn’t like the trade but then I researched it and it makes sense. Scoring a ton is great unless you’re getting scored on even more when you’re on the ice

 

Just now, Turbo44 said:

Top line player with bad analytics (and really bad analytics without tage) for a 2ND line dman and a 3rd/4th line player with elite forechecking analytics. I’m the first to admit I didn’t like the trade but then I researched it and it makes sense. Scoring a ton is great unless you’re getting scored on even more when you’re on the ice

Not sure he is a 2nd line D man and not sure on Doan as a 3rd line player.  

I hope it turns out differently and both play important minutes to push the team into the playoffs.

[Turbo44]

4 minutes ago, MISabresFan said:

 

Not sure he is a 2nd line D man and not sure on Doan as a 3rd line player.  

I hope it turns out differently and both play important minutes to push the team into the playoffs.

Yep that’s what we’ll find out. Not sure JJ will continue at a 14% shooting rate either or put up the points he did last year with a C not as good as tage??

[darksabre]

19 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

Kesselring interview

 

When a guy named Kesselring wants to be part of "the solution" 

[K-9]

45 minutes ago, Thorny said:

One thing I can't stand is how revisionist some media members are. “Well you hated the Savoie trade so shut up” isn’t a good argument. 
 

^99/100 sabres fans 

Funny how different people take things differently. I didn’t get the sense that Harrington was telling anyone to shut up. Instead I took it as let’s wait a bit and we might be just be surprised again. 

[PromoTheRobot]

38 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

Idk what Harrington is smoking. Most of us liked the trade. 

I think there is a curve with most Sabres transactions. Big time negative reactions out of the box, then once folks analyze what happened, it calms down. But I do recall a lot of "WTF are the Sabres doing" right off on social media over trading Savoie.

Edited 4 hours ago by PromoTheRobot

[bob_sauve28]

23 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

Kesselring interview

 

Seems like a cool guy. His description of Doan is interesting.