PerreaultForever Posted July 3, 2023 Report Share Posted July 3, 2023 1 hour ago, Randall Flagg said: Boy have I about had it with hearing about how Adams had a bunch of things lined up that didn't culminate in anything Just don't tell me, I don't need the assurance that he's trying his best It's true, and most of that stuff is just pure BS anyway. GMs lie a lot at this time of year. On a similar theme, it was funny today after reading for weeks how Sweeney said he was talking to all their free agents and trying to sign Bertuzzi etc. Bertuzzi's agent yesterday tweeted that he hadn't talked to Boston at all. So Bertuzzi was never in their plan, even though every report and all the talk said he was. GMs in July are just full of BS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt Posted July 3, 2023 Report Share Posted July 3, 2023 54 minutes ago, PerreaultForever said: It's true, and most of that stuff is just pure BS anyway. GMs lie a lot at this time of year. On a similar theme, it was funny today after reading for weeks how Sweeney said he was talking to all their free agents and trying to sign Bertuzzi etc. Bertuzzi's agent yesterday tweeted that he hadn't talked to Boston at all. So Bertuzzi was never in their plan, even though every report and all the talk said he was. GMs in July are just full of BS. Sure GMs lie all the time, but agents, we can believe what they say? Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom webster Posted July 3, 2023 Report Share Posted July 3, 2023 6 hours ago, Randall Flagg said: Boy have I about had it with hearing about how Adams had a bunch of things lined up that didn't culminate in anything Just don't tell me, I don't need the assurance that he's trying his best It’s starting to feel like Darcy. He seems to be over analyzing and comes up with this hard fast value and won’t budge. Couple that with a high value he’s putting on some of these prospects and here we sit banking on what would be historically great production from a couple of draft classes. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Buffalo Posted July 3, 2023 Report Share Posted July 3, 2023 1 hour ago, tom webster said: It’s starting to feel like Darcy. He seems to be over analyzing and comes up with this hard fast value and won’t budge. Couple that with a high value he’s putting on some of these prospects and here we sit banking on what would be historically great production from a couple of draft classes. Yeh gotta be somewhere in between Darcy and TM giving away the fort... problem is too many other teams may want the fort right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom webster Posted July 3, 2023 Report Share Posted July 3, 2023 17 minutes ago, North Buffalo said: Yeh gotta be somewhere in between Darcy and TM giving away the fort... problem is too many other teams may want the fort right now. And just to be clear. I’m very optimistic for the future but at some point KA has to make that move and I think he has had the chance. They have a crazy amount of prospects and I know they won’t all pan out but they really only need two or three to solidify this roster for three to four years. Additionally, this is probably the last year where they have valued cap space over teams they are contending with and it seems they won’t be taking advantage of that either. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTJoe Posted July 3, 2023 Report Share Posted July 3, 2023 5 minutes ago, tom webster said: And just to be clear. I’m very optimistic for the future but at some point KA has to make that move and I think he has had the chance. They have a crazy amount of prospects and I know they won’t all pan out but they really only need two or three to solidify this roster for three to four years. Additionally, this is probably the last year where they have valued cap space over teams they are contending with and it seems they won’t be taking advantage of that either. That move would be to: 1. Trade for Hart & Konectny (would be $$), or 2. Sign Kane, Tatar or Tarasenko 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom webster Posted July 3, 2023 Report Share Posted July 3, 2023 5 minutes ago, CTJoe said: That move would be to: 1. Trade for Hart & Konectny (would be $$), or 2. Sign Kane, Tatar or Tarasenko Kane is likely out longer then Quinn so he wouldn’t help in that regard. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted July 3, 2023 Report Share Posted July 3, 2023 13 hours ago, dudacek said: Feels like one of those group-think echo chamber opinions. A select group comes to a similar conclusion based on a small sample size and the fact they agree and loudly repeat it as fact entrenches an opinion as a fact. It’s basically the heartbeat of Twitter. Twitter? Really? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted July 3, 2023 Report Share Posted July 3, 2023 (edited) Who is left on the market that has a connection to DG, KO, KA or the Sabres in general? If they don’t the odds of them coming here are greatly diminished. Look at the list recently Stillman - Connected to KA Greenway - Connected to DG Clifton - Connected to DG Johnson - Connected to DG and KO Even when we draft there seems to be a connection. The drafting piece illustrates using all available resources for better knowledge about a player. Benson - Plays w Savoie and played with Krebs and plays for former Sabre James Patrick Strbak - going to MSU to play for Nightingales’ brother McCarthy - KA’s neighbor. So who is left with ties to our team? Edited July 3, 2023 by GASabresIUFAN 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Buffalo Posted July 3, 2023 Report Share Posted July 3, 2023 Just now, GASabresIUFAN said: Who is left on the market that has a connection to DG, KO, KA or the Sabres in general. If they don’t the odds of them coming here are greatly diminished. Look at the list recently Stillman - Connected to KA Greenway - Connected to DG Clifton - Connected to DG Johnson - Connected to DG and KO Even when we draft there seems to be a connection. The drafting piece illustrates using all available resources for better knowledge about a player. Benson - Plays w Savoie and played with Krebs and plays for former Sabre James Patrick Strbak - going to MSU to play for Nightingales’ brother McCarthy - KA’s neighbor. So who is left with ties to our team? Any goalies? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted July 3, 2023 Report Share Posted July 3, 2023 6 minutes ago, North Buffalo said: Any goalies? We already brought back Tokarski. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted July 3, 2023 Report Share Posted July 3, 2023 Apparently a guy with connections on Flames HFboards says that Kevyn's offer for Hanifin was pick 86 and Olofsson lol. If that is true, the eichel trade will be kevyn's last real trade of his tenure at GM because nobody will ever value things like he does 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted July 3, 2023 Report Share Posted July 3, 2023 2 minutes ago, Randall Flagg said: Apparently a guy with connections on Flames HFboards says that Kevyn's offer for Hanifin was pick 86 and Olofsson lol. If that is true, the eichel trade will be kevyn's last real trade of his tenure at GM because nobody will ever value things like he does So, what was Calgary's counter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted July 3, 2023 Report Share Posted July 3, 2023 Just now, Taro T said: So, what was Calgary's counter? Not sure. Probably a click and a dial tone 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted July 3, 2023 Report Share Posted July 3, 2023 3 minutes ago, Randall Flagg said: Not sure. Probably a click and a dial tone Well, if the GM doesn't make any counters, pretty sure we understand why Hannifan is still a Flame. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted July 3, 2023 Report Share Posted July 3, 2023 Quote The Sabres did pursue a forward Adams mentioned that the Sabres did pursue a forward but that player got out of the price range the team was comfortable paying. Adams didn’t close the door on adding more competition, especially after Quinn’s injury. But the line combinations are tricky to figure out as is. Bringing Tyson Jost back on a one-year, $2 million contract was a nice move for competition and depth in the bottom six, but the Sabres need to decide who will play on the second line with Dylan Cozens and JJ Peterka while Quinn recovers. https://theathletic.com/4661807/2023/07/03/sabres-free-agency/ I still have an interest in Pius Suter for additional depth. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin Posted July 3, 2023 Report Share Posted July 3, 2023 10 hours ago, Brawndo said: Chevy got quite a haul for PLD, I imagine he is keeping a high price for Hellebuyck for now. The price was "young, now pieces" -- note the plural. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalonill Posted July 3, 2023 Report Share Posted July 3, 2023 39 minutes ago, Randall Flagg said: Apparently a guy with connections on Flames HFboards says that Kevyn's offer for Hanifin was pick 86 and Olofsson lol. If that is true, the eichel trade will be kevyn's last real trade of his tenure at GM because nobody will ever value things like he does Sounds like Darcy Regier 2.0 I'm excited. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pimlach Posted July 3, 2023 Report Share Posted July 3, 2023 (edited) 10 hours ago, Randall Flagg said: Boy have I about had it with hearing about how Adams had a bunch of things lined up that didn't culminate in anything Just don't tell me, I don't need the assurance that he's trying his best I have read one comment about that regarding a forward. 1 hour ago, Randall Flagg said: Apparently a guy with connections on Flames HFboards says that Kevyn's offer for Hanifin was pick 86 and Olofsson lol. If that is true, the eichel trade will be kevyn's last real trade of his tenure at GM because nobody will ever value things like he does Apparently the Flames got a better offer? Edited July 3, 2023 by Pimlach 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pimlach Posted July 3, 2023 Report Share Posted July 3, 2023 50 minutes ago, Taro T said: Well, if the GM doesn't make any counters, pretty sure we understand why Hannifan is still a Flame. Thank you, and so true. When is an opening offer ever a best and final offer? The opening offer is typically followed by a counter. I guess the Flames fan with connections missed that part of it. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted July 3, 2023 Report Share Posted July 3, 2023 Regarding Hanifan, IMHO it's worth noting that none of him, Pesce and Helle -- all of whom have 1 year left before UFA -- has been traded yet. Cap space is tight around the NHL, and I would guess that is depressing the trade market for good-to-excellent players who are close to UFA and want fat extensions. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted July 3, 2023 Report Share Posted July 3, 2023 At some point today I'll go find the guy and ask, buy I believe the implication was that that was the offer, not the starting point of negotiations. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTJoe Posted July 3, 2023 Report Share Posted July 3, 2023 3 minutes ago, Randall Flagg said: At some point today I'll go find the guy and ask, buy I believe the implication was that that was the offer, not the starting point of negotiations. Dozens of offers are made for every trade. Don't read too much into it. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matter2003 Posted July 3, 2023 Report Share Posted July 3, 2023 4 hours ago, tom webster said: It’s starting to feel like Darcy. He seems to be over analyzing and comes up with this hard fast value and won’t budge. Couple that with a high value he’s putting on some of these prospects and here we sit banking on what would be historically great production from a couple of draft classes. Maybe because they have historically great draft classes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted July 3, 2023 Report Share Posted July 3, 2023 5 hours ago, tom webster said: It’s starting to feel like Darcy. He seems to be over analyzing and comes up with this hard fast value and won’t budge. Couple that with a high value he’s putting on some of these prospects and here we sit banking on what would be historically great production from a couple of draft classes. ?? Darcy was masterful at trades. He had his problems, but trading? He was brilliant. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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