dudacek Posted June 26, 2023 Report Share Posted June 26, 2023 37 minutes ago, PerreaultForever said: I suspect this means the Bruins will sign Bertuzzi. It makes sense. Hall was the most expendable piece with his salary. Chicago probably thinks a veteran power forward beside Bedard will work wonders for them. A logic I think I've seen before 🙂 If the Bruins use Hall’s money to sign Bertuzzi, who are they trading to re-sign or replace Bergeron, Krecji, Orlov, Hathaway, Nosek, Orlov and Clifton? They now have $10 million under the cap to fill nine roster holes, including resigning RFAs Swayman and Frederic. Bertuzzi would probably eat up 6 or 7 on his own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted June 26, 2023 Report Share Posted June 26, 2023 39 minutes ago, Brawndo said: This is why no team should ever worry about having a bad cap hit for a few years You can't count on a guy waiving his NMC like Hall did (and I don't know why he did). Also, why did Chicago help out Boston like this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthEbriate Posted June 26, 2023 Report Share Posted June 26, 2023 In a way... Hall is now once again aligned with the #1 overall pick. It's a bit backwards this time. But that said, there's a really good chance that Hall helps the Blackhawks win the lottery again this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabres Fan in NS Posted June 26, 2023 Report Share Posted June 26, 2023 6 minutes ago, Eleven said: You can't count on a guy waiving his NMC like Hall did (and I don't know why he did). Also, why did Chicago help out Boston like this? It seems that Hall's NMC had limitations and Chcago was not on his no-trade list. Looks like he had no voice in the trade. Sucka !! Although, Chicago is a great place to play hockey. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalonill Posted June 26, 2023 Report Share Posted June 26, 2023 55 minutes ago, Randall Flagg said: One of the worst sabres in history Eric Staal also 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted June 26, 2023 Report Share Posted June 26, 2023 5 minutes ago, Sabres Fan in NS said: It seems that Hall's NMC had limitations and Chcago was not on his no-trade list. Looks like he had no voice in the trade. Sucka !! Although, Chicago is a great place to play hockey. And I guess Chicago will flip him at the deadline, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabres Fan in NS Posted June 26, 2023 Report Share Posted June 26, 2023 Just now, Eleven said: And I guess Chicago will flip him at the deadline, too. With first overall in 2024 (H)all but assured .. you bet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted June 26, 2023 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2023 https://twitter.com/nhlbruins/status/1673421314474799126?s=46&t=h0yvSDHtOEJBIIBDkE7IaQ 16 minutes ago, Eleven said: You can't count on a guy waiving his NMC like Hall did (and I don't know why he did). Also, why did Chicago help out Boston like this? He didn’t. Chicago was one of the 16 teams that was not on his no trade list Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted June 26, 2023 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2023 The key is for GMs to not give out full NTC or NMC 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
French Collection Posted June 26, 2023 Report Share Posted June 26, 2023 A bunch of reporters are saying how great of a deal it is for Chicago. Well, they need someone to skate with Bedard and they got Hall for basically nothing, so it is a good deal for them. I think Foligno will help from a leadership angle and I hope he gets a deal in Chicago. Some of those reporters are saying it’s a great move by Boston to shed that salary. Sure is, when it’s $6M for Hall’s production. It is part of the cap massaging they will have to do. From Hall’s angle, how does it feel to be a former MVP and traded for a roll of tape. What about Johansen, paid $4M by your former team to play for a rival. I guess they need thick skin, think it’s all business and laugh all the way to the bank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom webster Posted June 26, 2023 Report Share Posted June 26, 2023 23 minutes ago, Eleven said: You can't count on a guy waiving his NMC like Hall did (and I don't know why he did). Also, why did Chicago help out Boston like this? I know this isn’t the place for this but I have to say, I love that someone that I respect and genuinely like is so on the opposite side of this issue as me. Of course, it helps that eleven is wrong and I’m right 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted June 26, 2023 Report Share Posted June 26, 2023 I assume those two guys Chicago sent out were their bottom 2 contracts? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted June 26, 2023 Report Share Posted June 26, 2023 5 minutes ago, tom webster said: I know this isn’t the place for this but I have to say, I love that someone that I respect and genuinely like is so on the opposite side of this issue as me. Of course, it helps that eleven is wrong and I’m right 😉 ?? I'm not even sure of the issue... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
French Collection Posted June 26, 2023 Report Share Posted June 26, 2023 2 minutes ago, shrader said: I assume those two guys Chicago sent out were their bottom 2 contracts? 23 & 24 year old Dmen that got some games in with Chicago last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted June 26, 2023 Report Share Posted June 26, 2023 35 minutes ago, dudacek said: If the Bruins use Hall’s money to sign Bertuzzi, who are they trading to re-sign or replace Bergeron, Krecji, Orlov, Hathaway, Nosek, Orlov and Clifton? They now have $10 million under the cap to fill nine roster holes, including resigning RFAs Swayman and Frederic. Bertuzzi would probably eat up 6 or 7 on his own. They’ll figure it out and we’ll all be pissed at how easy they do it with teams like Chicago and Arizona helping them out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted June 26, 2023 Report Share Posted June 26, 2023 1 minute ago, inkman said: They’ll figure it out and we’ll all be pissed at how easy they do it with teams like Chicago and Arizona helping them out. If it weren’t the Bruins, I’d root for it to work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
French Collection Posted June 26, 2023 Report Share Posted June 26, 2023 Just now, inkman said: They’ll figure it out and we’ll all be pissed at how easy they do it with teams like Chicago and Arizona helping them out. Sabres had many chances to weaponize their cap space in the past. KA probably didn’t want to disrupt the room. Use it wisely now but don’t sweat getting near the limit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted June 26, 2023 Report Share Posted June 26, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Eleven said: You can't count on a guy waiving his NMC like Hall did (and I don't know why he did). Also, why did Chicago help out Boston like this? Chicago is like Buffalo last year: needing to add some big short-term deals in order to get to the cap floor. Even after nabbing Hall, they still have $31 million cap space with only 6 spots to fill. Hall’s deal expires next year. Plus he helps them; probably their 2nd best forward after Bedard. Their roster is putrid. 56 minutes ago, Eleven said: And I guess Chicago will flip him at the deadline, too. And maybe this too. Edited June 26, 2023 by dudacek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted June 26, 2023 Report Share Posted June 26, 2023 13 minutes ago, dudacek said: Chicago is like Buffalo last year: needing to add some big short-term deals in order to get to the cap floor. Even after nabbing Hall, they still have $31 million cap space with only 6 spots to fill. Hall’s deal expires next year. Plus he helps them; probably their 2nd best forward after Bedard. Their roster is putrid. I’d love to know who is going to center Hall-Bedard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashsabre Posted June 26, 2023 Report Share Posted June 26, 2023 38 minutes ago, shrader said: I’d love to know who is going to center Hall-Bedard. Natural centre Ville Leino 😛 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerreaultForever Posted June 26, 2023 Report Share Posted June 26, 2023 2 hours ago, dudacek said: If the Bruins use Hall’s money to sign Bertuzzi, who are they trading to re-sign or replace Bergeron, Krecji, Orlov, Hathaway, Nosek, Orlov and Clifton? They now have $10 million under the cap to fill nine roster holes, including resigning RFAs Swayman and Frederic. Bertuzzi would probably eat up 6 or 7 on his own. I would bet there are more moves to come but you're likely seeing Steen, Lauko and maybe McLaughlin at the bottom end of their roster. All are under a million. Bergeron may come back one more time. If not Coyle moves to that spot. Can they still compete? Hard to say. Definitely not as good as they were. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerreaultForever Posted June 26, 2023 Report Share Posted June 26, 2023 1 hour ago, dudacek said: Chicago is like Buffalo last year: needing to add some big short-term deals in order to get to the cap floor. Even after nabbing Hall, they still have $31 million cap space with only 6 spots to fill. Hall’s deal expires next year. Plus he helps them; probably their 2nd best forward after Bedard. Their roster is putrid. And maybe this too. Philly is still trying hard to dump all their garbage. They might pick up somebody from there to spend some of that cash. I bet they have a few more big money deals left to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted June 26, 2023 Report Share Posted June 26, 2023 3 hours ago, LGR4GM said: Full trade: Can anybody please explain what the Hawks get out of that trade that is beneficial? Or were they SO far below the Cap Floor that they needed 2 guys well past their sell by dates? Nevermind. They're still about $13MM below the floor with 17 contracts in hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted June 26, 2023 Report Share Posted June 26, 2023 2 minutes ago, Taro T said: Can anybody please explain what the Hawks get out of that trade that is beneficial? Or were they SO far below the Cap Floor that they needed 2 guys well past their sell by dates? Nevermind. They're still about $13MM below the floor with 17 contracts in hand. They'll get a first for Hall in March. But I have no idea why they gave up two prospects, when really they should have just given up $1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusader1969 Posted June 26, 2023 Report Share Posted June 26, 2023 2 hours ago, Eleven said: You can't count on a guy waiving his NMC like Hall did (and I don't know why he did). Also, why did Chicago help out Boston like this? I think Chicago may pull a Tim Murray Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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