DarthEbriate Posted June 24, 2023 Report Share Posted June 24, 2023 27 minutes ago, Turbo44 said: Tanev shoots right, has 2 years left on a very reasonable contract and is from Toronto. Analytics say he’s elite defensively only behind Macavoy in the entire NHL. He’d be perfect for Powers. He provides very little offensively but that is pretty irrelevant. Oloffson and a 2nd for Tanev is more than a fair offer (maybe too much). CGY needs wingers desperately. I put on my CGY GM helmet... I kind of like this, but I'm reluctant to swap for someone who might walk, or if we're good enough at the deadline to make the playoffs I won't be willing to sell off. A bunch of that team is ready to be rentals or walk at the end of the season and VO would be another. I'd counter by asking Jost and his RFA control and the 2nd for Tanev; then I'd maybe have a replacement for Lindholm for more than a single season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted June 24, 2023 Report Share Posted June 24, 2023 1 hour ago, dudacek said: I guess we shall see how Conroy handles it in the wake of the recent mass revolt, but the early reports were that Calgary was more interested in a retool than a rebuild. If that’s the case, I’m wondering if the deal could be based around Hanifin for Olofsson and Jokiharju? I realize I’ll get flamed by the “Joker and VO are trash” crowd, but the fact is Vic is a 25-goal scoring PP weapon and Henri is a 24-year-old, mobile, minute-munching RHD. They have value. And it’s an old school hockey trade, the likes of which teams made all the time prior to the cap era. From the Flames perspective they downgrade on a top 4 D, but add a cheaper contract who is under team control for a lot longer than a year at a hard-to-fill position for a player who was going to walk, as well as filling a big hole up front. It’s pretty easy to see them imagining Huberdeau to VO lighting things up with the man advantage. And as Brawndo says, if Vic doesn’t fit into their long-term plans, he’ll be pretty easy to flip. The Sabres will have to backfill on the 3rd pair, but they’ve upgraded their top 4 with a talented player who suits their timeline. Maybe there’s an add somewhere, and I apologize for the “our trash for your good player” nature of this idea, but I can see a world where it might make sense. Think if it comes with an extension for Hanifin we're tossing in 45 overall to make it work. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetlou Posted June 24, 2023 Report Share Posted June 24, 2023 29 minutes ago, Turbo44 said: Tanev shoots right, has 2 years left on a very reasonable contract and is from Toronto. Analytics say he’s elite defensively only behind Macavoy in the entire NHL. He’d be perfect for Powers. He provides very little offensively but that is pretty irrelevant. Oloffson and a 2nd for Tanev is more than a fair offer (maybe too much). CGY needs wingers desperately. Tanev only has one year left and then UFA, rather have Dillon from Jets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted June 24, 2023 Report Share Posted June 24, 2023 1 hour ago, Buffalonill said: Thought so Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalonill Posted June 24, 2023 Report Share Posted June 24, 2023 7 minutes ago, dudacek said: Thought so That I was right ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
French Collection Posted June 24, 2023 Report Share Posted June 24, 2023 If they get Hanifin without an extension, they have almost a year to convince him to sign. The situation will be better than Calgary, who badly need a new rink. They seem to have a lot of guys wanting out. He may love playing for DG. KA will make him feel appreciated. He will be in the USA. He will be closer to home. The group is tight and are learning to play for each other. The dressing room is full of guys around his age, he would be a veteran. His role beside an emerging star on D. The team is improving and ready for contention, especially with him. There is cap space to get a good deal. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irregularly irregular Posted June 24, 2023 Report Share Posted June 24, 2023 4 hours ago, Brawndo said: Oh hell yes on Tanev. He is from York just outside of Toronto and played at RIT I imagine convincing him to come to Buffalo wouldn’t be that hard I'm wondering if Tanev would be the best fit for Power. I have a sense that he has some "Loose Cannon" in him and that makes me concerned about his helping with the development of Power. Then there is also the question about how well he fits in the locker room. I could be totally wrong about this and will happily be corrected by those who know better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewookie1 Posted June 24, 2023 Report Share Posted June 24, 2023 I'd love Tanev 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo44 Posted June 24, 2023 Report Share Posted June 24, 2023 44 minutes ago, irregularly irregular said: I'm wondering if Tanev would be the best fit for Power. I have a sense that he has some "Loose Cannon" in him and that makes me concerned about his helping with the development of Power. Then there is also the question about how well he fits in the locker room. I could be totally wrong about this and will happily be corrected by those who know better. Have never heard that about him. And with 1 year left on contract (I was corrected when I incorrectly said 2) he wouldn’t be all that expensive. He would help solve the PK problem and the lack of quality defensive defenseman 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted June 25, 2023 Report Share Posted June 25, 2023 IF Calgary is retooling, and they seem to be. What would it take to get Hannifan AND Tanev? Will assume that @Brawndo's ask of Olofsson and Jokiharju would be the start of the package. What else would be needed? That would have the Sabres top 6 very solid and they'd be able to bring in another UFA in the 6/7 mold to have pretty much 10 deep between actual NHLers and tweeners and they MIGHT be 8 deep in NHLers. Still would prefer Graves and 1 of those 2, but just curious what people think it would take to help Conroy facilitate the continuation of the mass exodus that began last year with Gaudreau and Tkachuk getting out of Dodge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted June 25, 2023 Report Share Posted June 25, 2023 6 minutes ago, Taro T said: IF Calgary is retooling, and they seem to be. What would it take to get Hannifan AND Tanev? Will assume that @Brawndo's ask of Olofsson and Jokiharju would be the start of the package. What else would be needed? That would have the Sabres top 6 very solid and they'd be able to bring in another UFA in the 6/7 mold to have pretty much 10 deep between actual NHLers and tweeners and they MIGHT be 8 deep in NHLers. Still would prefer Graves and 1 of those 2, but just curious what people think it would take to help Conroy facilitate the continuation of the mass exodus that began last year with Gaudreau and Tkachuk getting out of Dodge. I think you're looking at two firsts on top of Olofsson and Jokiharju and I'm not sure I hate it. But it is going to create a cap crunch down the road. If the Sabres can get some cost certainty on Dahlin/Power first, I'd be happier. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted June 25, 2023 Report Share Posted June 25, 2023 Well that's interesting... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carmel Corn Posted June 25, 2023 Report Share Posted June 25, 2023 2 minutes ago, Eleven said: I think you're looking at two firsts on top of Olofsson and Jokiharju and I'm not sure I hate it. But it is going to create a cap crunch down the road. If the Sabres can get some cost certainty on Dahlin/Power first, I'd be happier. Alternative thought...maybe on one 1st. Joki is a former 1st rounder as well and perhaps could eventually become something more than a 5/6 on another team. VO might fetch a 2nd round equivalent. So I guess I am wondering if Joki, VO and one 1st might work with team that is facing a major challenge retaining its existing players? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted June 25, 2023 Report Share Posted June 25, 2023 1 minute ago, Carmel Corn said: Alternative thought...maybe on one 1st. Joki is a former 1st rounder as well and perhaps could eventually become something more than a 5/6 on another team. VO might fetch a 2nd round equivalent. So I guess I am wondering if Joki, VO and one 1st might work with team that is facing a major challenge retaining its existing players? Yeah I don't think a hypothetical trade partner is going to overvalue Joker like that. And I actually think he's a precious part of the defense--I know a lot of other folks don't. Frankly I'd rather keep him but for Hanifin AND Tanev, like @Taro T proposed? If the Sabres can make the *future* cap work, I'm in. With the two firsts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Eleven Posted June 25, 2023 Report Share Posted June 25, 2023 9 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: I'm almost cackling at the thought of the Flyers (including the post about the Blues) and Canes both tangling themselves into knots just to get worse. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottysabres Posted June 25, 2023 Report Share Posted June 25, 2023 10 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: Interesting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashsabre Posted June 25, 2023 Report Share Posted June 25, 2023 DeAngelo is a straight up cancer. I wouldn’t touch him for free. I do wonder if it has something to do with Pesce’s future though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zamboni Posted June 25, 2023 Report Share Posted June 25, 2023 (edited) No matter what Philly does, I’m confident they won’t do much damage come next April. After all, they have Torts. Same with C-Bus. After all, they have Babcock. 😂 Edited June 25, 2023 by Zamboni Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewookie1 Posted June 25, 2023 Report Share Posted June 25, 2023 32 minutes ago, Scottysabres said: Interesting Begs to question if this means anything in regards to Pesce. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottysabres Posted June 25, 2023 Report Share Posted June 25, 2023 20 minutes ago, thewookie1 said: Begs to question if this means anything in regards to Pesce. Maybe. They got him back at good price, plus those draft picks when Philly picked him up. What a ***** show Philly has become. Briere definitely has a lot of heavy lifting to do there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
French Collection Posted June 25, 2023 Report Share Posted June 25, 2023 41 minutes ago, thewookie1 said: Begs to question if this means anything in regards to Pesce. Picking up a RHD and they have Burns + Pesce + Chatfield as RHD. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom webster Posted June 25, 2023 Report Share Posted June 25, 2023 9 hours ago, Eleven said: I think you're looking at two firsts on top of Olofsson and Jokiharju and I'm not sure I hate it. But it is going to create a cap crunch down the road. If the Sabres can get some cost certainty on Dahlin/Power first, I'd be happier. Still worried about that cap crunch? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted June 25, 2023 Report Share Posted June 25, 2023 6 minutes ago, tom webster said: Still worried about that cap crunch? Did something happen overnight? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom webster Posted June 25, 2023 Report Share Posted June 25, 2023 16 minutes ago, Eleven said: Did something happen overnight? You need to stop obsessing over things that don’t exist, or so I’ve been told. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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