thewookie1 Posted February 24, 2023 Report Share Posted February 24, 2023 Rangers are supposedly trying to hammer out a framework to get Kane from Chicago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetlou Posted February 24, 2023 Report Share Posted February 24, 2023 1 hour ago, Brawndo said: Seeing Wild helped on retention and only got a 5th from Boston and gave up a 26yr old Russian center drafted in 2017 who has never played in NA. Don't get why Wild would retain for a 5th? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
French Collection Posted February 24, 2023 Report Share Posted February 24, 2023 Ducks keeping up with the Caps. 2-2 after two. Go Ducks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTS Posted February 24, 2023 Report Share Posted February 24, 2023 4 hours ago, Brawndo said: 4 hours ago, Brawndo said: ***** man.. which is it? 😉 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted February 24, 2023 Report Share Posted February 24, 2023 13 minutes ago, LTS said: ***** man.. which is it? 😉 The latter of the two, from what I've seen. Boston's all in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerreaultForever Posted February 24, 2023 Report Share Posted February 24, 2023 It's Smith and the 3 picks. Now's the time for KA to make his final offer on Chychrun as Boston was the primary suitor and since they went Orlov that deal's obviously not going to happen. Arizona might be willing to drop the price slightly from their earlier stance as they run out of potential landing spots. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohninMinn. Posted February 24, 2023 Report Share Posted February 24, 2023 We got overtime in Vegas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohninMinn. Posted February 24, 2023 Report Share Posted February 24, 2023 3 minutes ago, JohninMinn. said: We got overtime in Vegas. Calgary gave up 2 goal lead in the 3rd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Second Line Center Posted February 24, 2023 Report Share Posted February 24, 2023 Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTS Posted February 24, 2023 Report Share Posted February 24, 2023 2 hours ago, Eleven said: The latter of the two, from what I've seen. Boston's all in. Hell yeah they are... I was just trying to pick on the Brawndo bot 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerreaultForever Posted February 24, 2023 Report Share Posted February 24, 2023 Pittsburgh now in reach as they got blown out by the Oilers. Florida game has to be playoff level hockey. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt Posted February 24, 2023 Report Share Posted February 24, 2023 10 hours ago, LTS said: That makes more sense. If I am reading it correctly they have about $20M in projected cap space. DeBrincat isn't going to get much of a raise.. if any is he? He's barely above Batherson in scoring and Batherson is signed at far less than DeBrincat is making this year. They've gotta be looking to bring someone in.. but then you'd think they would use Zaitsev for the trade? I guess we'll see what happens. Your explanation make the most sense so far. 🙂 His AAV is currently $6.4. I’d guess his next deal will be over $8M AAV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted February 24, 2023 Report Share Posted February 24, 2023 5 hours ago, PerreaultForever said: Pittsburgh now in reach as they got blown out by the Oilers. Florida game has to be playoff level hockey. It would be awesome if they had more than two players on the team that know what playoff level hockey looks like. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
French Collection Posted February 24, 2023 Report Share Posted February 24, 2023 8 hours ago, Second Line Center said: Lol Lost their love of the game? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kas23 Posted February 24, 2023 Report Share Posted February 24, 2023 1 hour ago, French Collection said: Lost their love of the game? That’s why they had to get ROR out of there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTS Posted February 24, 2023 Report Share Posted February 24, 2023 8 hours ago, Curt said: His AAV is currently $6.4. I’d guess his next deal will be over $8M AAV. But his stats do not support $8M. That's what I was saying. He's an RFA and his only hope would be arbitration. It's going to be a hard case to make given the evidence on his own team. I wouldn't pay him $8M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Contempt Posted February 24, 2023 Report Share Posted February 24, 2023 12 hours ago, Second Line Center said: Lol Any chance they want to trade us Toropchenko? He was pissed last night too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt Posted February 24, 2023 Report Share Posted February 24, 2023 30 minutes ago, LTS said: But his stats do not support $8M. That's what I was saying. He's an RFA and his only hope would be arbitration. It's going to be a hard case to make given the evidence on his own team. I wouldn't pay him $8M. Wow, I thought he was a couple years older and a pending UFA. Maybe being a RFA cuts into it a little. But I think his stats DO support $8M+ AAV. Over the past 3 seasons he has 92G 182PTS in 190 games. If not $8M+, how much does that equate to in AAV? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterExpat Posted February 24, 2023 Report Share Posted February 24, 2023 1 hour ago, LTS said: But his stats do not support $8M. That's what I was saying. He's an RFA and his only hope would be arbitration. It's going to be a hard case to make given the evidence on his own team. I wouldn't pay him $8M. Personally, I don't think he's worth the price he'll end up signing for based on the eye test, but he is absolutely going to get a long-term deal at more than $8m and the underlying stats support it. I'm not sure I understand what stats you're pointing to specifically. JFresh has his WAR at 93%. He is currently on a 70 point pace. He broke 40 goals last season and posted 32 goals the year prior in the COVID-shortened 52 game season. He broke 40 goals again in 2018-2019. He just turned 25 in December. Ottawa gave Brady Tkachuk $8.2m for 7 years and DeBrincat has outpaced him every year except this year. Evolving Hockey's model says he is worth $8.24 x 5 years. His QO is $9m. Ottawa is not going to get him to sign for less than Tkachuk so I'd guess the $8.2m is the floor. The Athletic RFA article from 2/16 suggests $8.6m x 7 years. The Athletic's Sens beat writer wrote in his mailbag in October he expects the number "to start with a 9" based on Barzal signing at $9.15m x 8. He's absolutely getting more than $8m. It might end up being his $9m QO and he gets traded this summer though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Taro T Posted February 24, 2023 Report Share Posted February 24, 2023 2 minutes ago, Brawndo said: Wow. Hope whatever his demons are he gets a handle on them. That can't help the Swamp Cats chances of hanging on for 1 of the final 2 playoff spots. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthEbriate Posted February 24, 2023 Report Share Posted February 24, 2023 (edited) 10 hours ago, Curt said: 41 minutes ago, RochesterExpat said: Personally, I don't think he's worth the price he'll end up signing for based on the eye test, but he is absolutely going to get a long-term deal at more than $8m and the underlying stats support it. I'm not sure I understand what stats you're pointing to specifically. JFresh has his WAR at 93%. He is currently on a 70 point pace. He broke 40 goals last season and posted 32 goals the year prior in the COVID-shortened 52 game season. He broke 40 goals again in 2018-2019. He just turned 25 in December. Ottawa gave Brady Tkachuk $8.2m for 7 years and DeBrincat has outpaced him every year except this year. Evolving Hockey's model says he is worth $8.24 x 5 years. His QO is $9m. Ottawa is not going to get him to sign for less than Tkachuk so I'd guess the $8.2m is the floor. The Athletic RFA article from 2/16 suggests $8.6m x 7 years. The Athletic's Sens beat writer wrote in his mailbag in October he expects the number "to start with a 9" based on Barzal signing at $9.15m x 8. He's absolutely getting more than $8m. It might end up being his $9m QO and he gets traded this summer though. Yup. Annnnnd... they gave up a top-10, a 2nd and 3rd to get him. They're resigning him to the longest term they can and he'll get paid for it. Their alternative is to bridge him back to UFA (or maybe RFA if 1-year?) and then trade him. But they won't be getting a top-10 pick in return. Edit: Based on his production, he should be asking for a Skinner-level deal. Edited February 24, 2023 by DarthEbriate 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted February 24, 2023 Report Share Posted February 24, 2023 (edited) McDavid has *35%* more points than the next closest non-Oiler player Gretzky-like The only thing stopping him from 7 straight 100 point seasons after his injury-shortened rookie year is the Covid shutdown Edited February 24, 2023 by Thorny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carmel Corn Posted February 24, 2023 Report Share Posted February 24, 2023 Pens put Kapanen on waivers.....any interest? Contract thru next season I believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetlou Posted February 24, 2023 Report Share Posted February 24, 2023 15 minutes ago, Carmel Corn said: Pens put Kapanen on waivers.....any interest? Contract thru next season I believe. Too many players like him already on the team. No thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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