Buffalonill Posted October 7, 2021 Report Share Posted October 7, 2021 8 minutes ago, bob_sauve28 said: No, that’s me if the thinking is really three years until we have a decent team Its been 10 whats another 3 can't hurt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted October 7, 2021 Report Share Posted October 7, 2021 1 hour ago, Mustache of God said: It is not important at all, you got a goalie in the Reinhart trade. The major pieces to replace Eichel need to be centers who have the potential to be first liners. No, we got a goalie prospect in a the Reinhart trade. The difference is substantial. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drag0nDan Posted October 7, 2021 Report Share Posted October 7, 2021 56 minutes ago, Weave said: No, we got a goalie prospect in a the Reinhart trade. The difference is substantial. Yeah... Levi is 19. He won't be here for a while... if ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Allen Posted October 7, 2021 Report Share Posted October 7, 2021 I kind of hope we lose a lot of games 6-5. Offense on fire and the D plays well, just goalies can’t stop a puck. That way, next year our offense is even better with Wright on it, Power will be up, and we spend the big bucks to get a goalie with UPL as the backup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srw1525 Posted October 7, 2021 Report Share Posted October 7, 2021 Not a dire need to get a goalie in the trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miles Posted October 7, 2021 Report Share Posted October 7, 2021 The kraken have 3 goalies and a ton of cap space, and they need a top line scorer. I wonder if they can toss in a draft picks set, the extra goalie and maybe an extra dman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huckleberry Posted October 8, 2021 Report Share Posted October 8, 2021 Not important for this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted October 8, 2021 Report Share Posted October 8, 2021 21 minutes ago, Huckleberry said: Not important for this year. ONLY because management is fine with icing a very bad hockey team. Even bad teams need NHL quality goaltending. This team MIGHT have a borderline version of it but if they do it will come from Methuselah and Tim Thomas lite. The odds aren't great that the Sabres landed TWO good goalies from such low success pools. Even working the "unblocked kids" angle, another NHL goalie would be a good thing. (3rd year running at least with that being the case.) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huckleberry Posted October 8, 2021 Report Share Posted October 8, 2021 Its the blight for wright Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Amerk Posted October 8, 2021 Report Share Posted October 8, 2021 The Sabres need to get as many skating assets as they can get for John. G is not an asset they need. They have 3 G prospects in the pipeline, and no plans of being competitive this season (not tanking, just not good enough). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted October 8, 2021 Report Share Posted October 8, 2021 Just now, Andrew Amerk said: The Sabres need to get as many skating assets as they can get for John. G is not an asset they need. They have 3 G prospects in the pipeline, and no plans of being competitive this season (not tanking, just not good enough). Until UPL shows he can be even a top level AHLer, it is tough to consider him a high probability prospect. Really only see them w/ 2 prospects & 1 prayer. Wanted that 14th OA pick to be used on 1 of the 2 "can't miss prospects" then they'd've had 3 cracks at a #1 in 3-4 years & 1 other lottery ticket for it. Could even likely end up w/ 2 legit NHLers out of that. Rather than just hopefully get there which is where they are now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Amerk Posted October 8, 2021 Report Share Posted October 8, 2021 1 minute ago, Taro T said: Until UPL shows he can be even a top level AHLer, it is tough to consider him a high probability prospect. Really only see them w/ 2 prospects & 1 prayer. Wanted that 14th OA pick to be used on 1 of the 2 "can't miss prospects" then they'd've had 3 cracks at a #1 in 3-4 years & 1 other lottery ticket for it. Could even likely end up w/ 2 legit NHLers out of that. Rather than just hopefully get there which is where they are now. Don’t get me wrong. I’m one of those “you should draft a goalie every year because you never know” types. I’m also still high on UPL. The Sabres might slightly be trying to rush him a bit, but I still think he will turn out fine with proper AHL seasoning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted October 8, 2021 Report Share Posted October 8, 2021 Sabres need to get the most young talent they can in an Eichel trade. Position only matters if two offers are close. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pimlach Posted October 8, 2021 Report Share Posted October 8, 2021 11 hours ago, Buffalonill said: "If" they land wright the fanbase will forget this year I heard that about McDavid and Eichel. It’s simply not true. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerreaultForever Posted October 8, 2021 Report Share Posted October 8, 2021 11 hours ago, bob_sauve28 said: Three years??? In 3 years we MIGHT be okay in goal. Rest of the team will take longer. We might be competitive in 3 years but it'll likely be 5 or more before we can truly think playoffs. and of course if we rush prospects and don't draft well and botch development well we will be tearing it down and tanking again in 5 or 6. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted October 8, 2021 Report Share Posted October 8, 2021 0%. It should not be something Adams is bringing up in conversations. If a team that's interested has one to offer and wants to include that player you listen but there are other positions to get more sure-fire value out of. 4 hours ago, Pimlach said: I heard that about McDavid and Eichel. It’s simply not true. Indeed. It'd take a Cup and a decade of success to ease the burden of these tank years. And then it's not forgetting, it's just moving on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabres Fan in NS Posted October 8, 2021 Report Share Posted October 8, 2021 13 hours ago, Huckleberry said: Its the blight for wright NO!! NO!! NO!! Nope ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKnowPhysics Posted October 8, 2021 Report Share Posted October 8, 2021 On 10/7/2021 at 8:46 AM, nfreeman said: It's extremely important to bring in a real NHL goalie, but it doesn't matter whether it's part of an Eichel trade or some other transaction. This. Separately, an Eichel trade should maximize long term return. Period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triumph_communes Posted October 9, 2021 Report Share Posted October 9, 2021 (edited) Goalies are voodoo and I believe it’s a huge mistake to lessen the return on a blue chip asset like Eichel for a goalie another team is ready to give up on. I believe the Eichel return must yield a potential 1C prospect and anything short of that is a mistake. Including a goalie is a way to undermine that requirement. I am aware of how Hasek came to the Sabres. Edited October 9, 2021 by triumph_communes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Amerk Posted October 9, 2021 Report Share Posted October 9, 2021 20 hours ago, Pimlach said: I heard that about McDavid and Eichel. It’s simply not true. This is accurate. I don’t even know who Wright is. He is supposed to be the next.......who? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huckleberry Posted October 9, 2021 Report Share Posted October 9, 2021 11 hours ago, New Scotland (NS) said: NO!! NO!! NO!! Nope ... We can denied it as much as we want, management will do all they can to get a top 3 pick. But I bet their real target is Michkov next year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangerDave Posted October 9, 2021 Report Share Posted October 9, 2021 I am tired of losing. IF they can get a goalie that helps them win now, they should would jump at the chance. The youngsters on the team need to find joy in playing now, not 3-5 years from now (as do us fans). If we can get a goalie that is great for the next 5 years, that is the length of the rest of Eichel's contract, and bridges us until the prospects get good. I don't think even a healthy, happy Eichel has them winning now, without a goalie who can win now. That said, I don't know of any team that has a spare great goalie that they would give up in a trade for Eichel. But, I don't know of any team that would give up a 1C of equal value to Eichel either. Why would they? I don't think any team is going to give up anything but prospects for Eichel. They are interested in getting their team better now. That means not giving up an equal asset that they need now. I don't have a lot of faith that an Eichel trade is going to make us better anytime soon. And I am dreading being a fan for the next 3-5 years while our gained prospect assets, #1 OA pick, and prospect goalies all get decent. That is a lot of hopefuls that may not pan out (and have historically not panned out). Whatever is takes to win now, we need to do it. Pinning hopes on prospects is getting very old. Screw the #1 OA. That plan has not worked at all for us. With the Bills, I used to say not "Wait 'til next year!", but "Wait 'til the year after next, because we are gonna still suck this year!" With the Sabres, I say, "Wait 'til 5 years from now!" And that sucks..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted October 9, 2021 Report Share Posted October 9, 2021 10 hours ago, Andrew Amerk said: This is accurate. I don’t even know who Wright is. He is supposed to be the next.......who? John Stamos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob_sauve28 Posted October 9, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2021 14 minutes ago, RangerDave said: I am tired of losing. IF they can get a goalie that helps them win now, they should would jump at the chance. The youngsters on the team need to find joy in playing now, not 3-5 years from now (as do us fans). If we can get a goalie that is great for the next 5 years, that is the length of the rest of Eichel's contract, and bridges us until the prospects get good. I don't think even a healthy, happy Eichel has them winning now, without a goalie who can win now. That said, I don't know of any team that has a spare great goalie that they would give up in a trade for Eichel. But, I don't know of any team that would give up a 1C of equal value to Eichel either. Why would they? I don't think any team is going to give up anything but prospects for Eichel. They are interested in getting their team better now. That means not giving up an equal asset that they need now. I don't have a lot of faith that an Eichel trade is going to make us better anytime soon. And I am dreading being a fan for the next 3-5 years while our gained prospect assets, #1 OA pick, and prospect goalies all get decent. That is a lot of hopefuls that may not pan out (and have historically not panned out). Whatever is takes to win now, we need to do it. Pinning hopes on prospects is getting very old. Screw the #1 OA. That plan has not worked at all for us. With the Bills, I used to say not "Wait 'til next year!", but "Wait 'til the year after next, because we are gonna still suck this year!" With the Sabres, I say, "Wait 'til 5 years from now!" And that sucks..... Well said 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted October 9, 2021 Report Share Posted October 9, 2021 11 hours ago, Andrew Amerk said: This is accurate. I don’t even know who Wright is. He is supposed to be the next.......who? Denis Potvin. Oops, wrong #1 overall pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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