Taro T Posted July 16, 2021 Report Share Posted July 16, 2021 29 minutes ago, Brawndo said: Listening live it sounds like something might be close with Risto Which would be fine. Have been an advocate for not trading any of the "big 3" but if 1 of the 3 were to be outbound, Ristolainen would be the preference and that would be a worthy return that doesn't appreciably sacrifice their chances THIS season. (And, that stated, still expect all 3 to no longer be wearing crossed swords when they suit up in October.) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt Posted July 16, 2021 Report Share Posted July 16, 2021 36 minutes ago, Brawndo said: Listening live it sounds like something might be close with Risto Cool. Although a young defenseman and “high draft pick” could mean a lot of different things, with a wide range of values. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thwomp! Posted July 16, 2021 Report Share Posted July 16, 2021 Another good move if this happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted July 16, 2021 Report Share Posted July 16, 2021 4 minutes ago, Curt said: Cool. Although a young defenseman and “high draft pick” could mean a lot of different things, with a wide range of values. Considering most here think he has no or negative value, any return for Risto should be looked at positively. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi2000 Posted July 16, 2021 Report Share Posted July 16, 2021 There have been Risto trade rumors for the past 3 years. This is nothing new. My source and I don't believe a deal is close at this time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thwomp! Posted July 16, 2021 Report Share Posted July 16, 2021 If Ristolainen is traded, Borgen then protected, and our young forwards all protected, I wonder if Seattle doesn't sign Ullmark as their choice from us? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt Posted July 16, 2021 Report Share Posted July 16, 2021 5 minutes ago, inkman said: Considering most here think he has no or negative value, any return for Risto should be looked at positively. I don’t think this is actually true. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted July 16, 2021 Report Share Posted July 16, 2021 3 minutes ago, pi2000 said: There have been Risto trade rumors for the past 3 years. This is nothing new. My source and I don't believe a deal is close at this time. No offense, but has your source ever been right lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi2000 Posted July 16, 2021 Report Share Posted July 16, 2021 1 minute ago, Thwomp! said: If Ristolainen is traded, Borgen then protected, and our young forwards all protected, I wonder if Seattle doesn't sign Ullmark as their choice from us? My source tells me Buffalo is trying to sign Ullmark as we speak. The uncertainty of Eichel/Reinhart is not helping. 1 minute ago, WildCard said: No offense, but has your source ever been right lol My source is always right.... 20% of the time. 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radar Posted July 16, 2021 Report Share Posted July 16, 2021 1 minute ago, pi2000 said: There have been Risto trade rumors for the past 3 years. This is nothing new. My source and I don't believe a deal is close at this time. If there is a trade it seems it would possibly be prior to submitting the expansion list. Say getting a p!ayer you would leave unprotected and a draft pick. Wouldn't this make sense? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi2000 Posted July 16, 2021 Report Share Posted July 16, 2021 1 minute ago, Radar said: If there is a trade it seems it would possibly be prior to submitting the expansion list. Say getting a p!ayer you would leave unprotected and a draft pick. Wouldn't this make sense? yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted July 16, 2021 Report Share Posted July 16, 2021 5 minutes ago, Thwomp! said: If Ristolainen is traded, Borgen then protected, and our young forwards all protected, I wonder if Seattle doesn't sign Ullmark as their choice from us? At that point, especially if Adams knows Ullmark won't re-sign, then Adams offers to Francis to keep Linus exposed for a 3rd or 4th round pick to enable him to talk to Linus in the exclusive rights window. And he doesn't even end up losing Miller as a result. 😉 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted July 16, 2021 Report Share Posted July 16, 2021 17 minutes ago, Curt said: Cool. Although a young defenseman and “high draft pick” could mean a lot of different things, with a wide range of values. From Rasmus Anderson and #12 to Rasmus Rasmussen and a Tampa 2nd. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thwomp! Posted July 16, 2021 Report Share Posted July 16, 2021 Isn't it weird how few expansion draft trades there have been? It seems prior to the Vagas draft that trades were fast and furious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt Posted July 16, 2021 Report Share Posted July 16, 2021 1 minute ago, dudacek said: From Rasmus Anderson and #12 to Rasmus Rasmussen and a Tampa 2nd. Gotta make sure you take a Rasmus with the draft pick too, we have quotas to keep up after all. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi2000 Posted July 16, 2021 Report Share Posted July 16, 2021 3 minutes ago, Thwomp! said: Isn't it weird how few expansion draft trades there have been? It seems prior to the Vagas draft that trades were fast and furious. Vegas braintrust > Seattle braintrust 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thwomp! Posted July 16, 2021 Report Share Posted July 16, 2021 1 minute ago, pi2000 said: Vegas braintrust > Seattle braintrust Poor JBotts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted July 16, 2021 Report Share Posted July 16, 2021 1 minute ago, Thwomp! said: Isn't it weird how few expansion draft trades there have been? It seems prior to the Vagas draft that trades were fast and furious. Still have a bit of time before the roster freeze sets in. But GMs understanding the process better probably is dampening some of the trade enthusiasm relative to prior to Vegas. Unless a team gets close to full value for their 8th F, 4th D, or 2nd G; sending them out essentially loses the team 2 players rather than just 1. Nobody wants to be Florida's nor Minny's GM. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthEbriate Posted July 16, 2021 Report Share Posted July 16, 2021 4 minutes ago, Curt said: Gotta make sure you take a Rasmus with the draft pick too, we have quotas to keep up after all. G Rasmus Korhonen. Definitely should be available later in the draft. Everything is proceeding as you have foreseen! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rakish Posted July 16, 2021 Report Share Posted July 16, 2021 22 minutes ago, pi2000 said: There have been Risto trade rumors for the past 3 years. This is nothing new. My source and I don't believe a deal is close at this time. Pi, this perspective will not get you 8 minutes on WGR 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted July 16, 2021 Report Share Posted July 16, 2021 If I had to guess I'd say Risto goes before the trade freeze on Saturday at 3pm, and Eichel/Reinhart negotiations continue throughout next week until the 22nd when the freeze is lifted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted July 16, 2021 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2021 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted July 16, 2021 Report Share Posted July 16, 2021 So basically Borgen and Risto are Carrier and Ennis, and if Risto's return is in line with Tyler's the grumbling would only last until the trade and then it'd never be spoken of again 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted July 16, 2021 Report Share Posted July 16, 2021 5 minutes ago, Brawndo said: That better increase his trade value then, since we're letting whichever team trades for him the ability to protect another D man they want to keep, and we're losing our own D man (Borgen) in the process. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thwomp! Posted July 16, 2021 Report Share Posted July 16, 2021 19 minutes ago, Brawndo said: This is stupid unless they are overcompensated for doing so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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