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Interesting parallel between this pick and the Thompson signing.

With Thompson, they could have signed him to a one year, ~$1M QO, kicking the can down the road in a “let’s see” manner.  Instead, they bet on the player.  Bet that one or two years down the line they will have themselves a bargain.

With Quinn they could have made a “safe” pick on a more developed player.  They took they guy who they think has more growth potential.  The guy who might make them look clairvoyant a couple years from now.  They bet on the player.

My take away is that they are more than willing to bet on guys who they believe in long term.  I don’t yet know if that’s going to be good or not.

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I’m not a hockey draft expert anymore.  

He is 19, pretty good size, ranked 7th in NHL Central Scouting.  Ranked mid-teens by about half the ratings places .  Ehhh let’s give him a chance.  

 

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Listening to the press interview with him now. Sounds solid, impressed with his maturity. Spent past 6 months in gym to get even bigger/stronger so he can still make plays/score while big NHL-ers are trying to knock him off the puck. 

While like many here, I wanted his linemate, Rossi, I am more comfortable with this pick. A solid piece to the TEAM puzzle.  Time will tell.

 

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2 minutes ago, SDS said:

I suggest this earlier in the thread. I think people are just sparing my feelings. LOL

We couldn't have taken a very good centre that they didn't want?

6 minutes ago, Trettioåtta said:

Steve Ott, Adam Mair, Matt Ellis, Mark Weber all worked really hard too. If you can get your Pasta or Stone on Eichel's wing. That's better than a Bozak in 2C. 

This may be the thinking.  Having a Eichel centre a top line with good 2-way wingers might be the aim; alternatively, have a 2nd line like Ramsay-Luce-Gare with, say, Skinner-Eichel-Reinhart is this version of Martin-Perreault-Robert.  (We can dream, right?)

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1 minute ago, SDS said:

Let’s assume the silly notion is true. If so, the question is would you rather have Rossi or Staal and Quinn?

Next year, the latter.  Long term, I would have preferred Rossi... but what the hell do I know? 

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1 minute ago, Jävə Keith said:

Listening to the press interview with him now. Sounds solid, impressed with his maturity. Spent past 6 months in gym to get even bigger/stronger so he can still make plays/score while big NHL-ers are trying to knock him off the puck. 

While like many here, I wanted his linemate, Rossi, I am more comfortable with this pick. A solid piece to the TEAM puzzle.  Time will tell.

 

I am really curious to hear about his size (weight) and if he worked on his foot speed. 

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Just now, Pimlach said:

I’m not a hockey draft expert anymore.  

He is 19, pretty good size, ranked 7th in NHL Central Scouting.  Ranked mid-teens by about half the ratings places .  Ehhh let’s give him a chance.  

 

In full disclosure, ranked 7th among N American skaters.  That excludes several higher ranked Euro players and Askarov.

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I have never seen the kid play until watching the highlights today . . . but what is there not to like about "the best goal scorer in the draft" comment on NBCSN.  

We should give the kid a break and see what he can do.

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I will just say that my knowledge of these guys comes from the videos that LGR has posted about them in the past month.

I found Rossi underwhelming. I kept waiting for something to jump out and make me say "wow", to justify all the hype. I never saw it.

The vids of Quinn at least made me say, "Hmmm."

I'm hopeful,… and that's in short supply.

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4 minutes ago, Pimlach said:

I’m not a hockey draft expert anymore.  

He is 19, pretty good size, ranked 7th in NHL Central Scouting.  Ranked mid-teens by about half the ratings places .  Ehhh let’s give him a chance.  

 

Well we have to give him a chance now.  It's not like we're going to root against him.  But this was not smart.

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Just now, Curt said:

In full disclosure, ranked 7th among N American skaters.  That excludes several higher ranked Euro players and Askarov.

Ok. Definitely helps to know that.  
 

This could be a Sabre-like pick, or maybe Adams knows something.  

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57 minutes ago, SwampD said:

Cryptic

Cool. So nobody knows how good he’s going to be because he didn’t go through the “proper” hockey channels.

Sabres fans will be naming their sons Quinn in a few years.

Soooooooooo.... Casey?

53 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

If Quinn had produced more last season I would have far less concerns than I do. Is this kid what he was the last 3 months of the season or is that a blip. He's a dangerous pick, and he isn't the Pegula's pick. This is a Adams guy. 

If we trade Reinhart, Pegula absolutely had a hand

41 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

Quinn isn't 1 dimensional. That would be a mistake to say. He played the PK for Ottawa so he's got defensive chops. I think he needs to continue to work on his skating and muscles. 

The fact that you, Liger, can say so many good things about Quinn in this thread and still be disappointed to the level you are about what we passed up, says a lot about what we passed up. 

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Just now, Thorny said:

Soooooooooo.... Casey?

If we trade Reinhart, Pegula absolutely had a hand

The fact that you, Liger, can say so many good things about Quinn in this thread and still be disappointed to the level you are about what we passed up, says a lot about what we passed up. 

Rossi played the game a way I really liked. Quinn does to an extent but I have more concerns with Quinn. There is a possibility that Quinn in 3 years is the better player, I just am not sure I believe that will be the case. However, Quinn is a good player and if he is what he was in the 2nd half of the season, much like Seth Jarvis you could have a player that we haven't actually seen their best yet. 

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1 minute ago, Thorny said:

Soooooooooo.... Casey?

If we trade Reinhart, Pegula absolutely had a hand

The fact that you, Liger, can say so many good things about Quinn in this thread and still be disappointed to the level you are about what we passed up, says a lot about what we passed up. 

You could also say the pandemic had a hand in it and the owner is just doing what all the other owners are doing.

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1 minute ago, Thorny said:

The fact that you, Liger, can say so many good things about Quinn in this thread and still be disappointed to the level you are about what we passed up, says a lot about what we passed up. 

It says more about Liger's integrity, which is more impressive.

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Some thoughts on Quinn courtesy of mynhldraft.com...

 

Jack Quinn's Player Profile

Jacob Barker - Dobber Prospects - Sept. 30th: "His scoring ability is one of the best in the draft class, which combined with his offensive instincts allow him to drive his line offensively and create scoring opportunities for himself and others"

Scott Wheeler - The Athletic - Sept. 21st: "There’s nothing in Quinn’s game to dislike. Add in dynamic ability as a mid-range shooter, impressive athleticism, and an eye for detail and anticipation, and it’s no wonder he broke the 50-goal plateau."

Mike Morreale - NHL.com - Aug. 25th: "The forward (6-0, 176) was second in the OHL with 52 goals and tied for eighth with 89 points in 62 games. Seven other OHL players have scored at least 50 goals in their NHL draft season since 2000-01."

Adam Kimelman - NHL.com - Aug. 25th: "His skating got better as the season went on, and he's confident it will continue to improve as he gets better off-ice training at the pro level. He is already strong enough to win battles along the wall and is tough to knock off the puck."

Steve Kourmianos - The Draft Analyst - Aug. 10th: "Although he shared power-play time with a talented playmaker like Marco Rossi, Quinn spent most of his 52-goal campaign on the 67’s second line away from his draft peer. He’s a serious threat no matter the strength, to include killing penalties and when transitioning quickly from a defensive-zone draw."

Chris Peters - ESPN - June 30th: "I was a very slow convert to Quinn's game, but the more I watched of his tape, the more I liked what I saw. His scoring ability pops, and his skating has gotten to a level that makes me much more comfortable projecting him as a top offensive contributor at the next level."

Sam Cosentino - Sportsnet - June 25th: "Takes care of the little details that have helped improve his all-around game. Amongst the best-in-class goal-scorers."

Cam Robinson - Dobber Prospects - Apr. 1st: "It’s not too often we see a draft-eligible OHLer pop 50 goals. Quinn did it despite his season-ending abruptly thanks to Covid-19. He accomplished this while playing on a stacked 67s squad, but played his 5v5 minutes away from Rossi."

Mike G. Morreale - NHL.com - Mar. 20th: "Scouts have taken notice after a solid summer of training. He's versatile enough to play all three forward positions and has the offensive instincts to execute plays. He was second in the OHL with 52 goals and tied for eighth with 89 points in 62 games."

Mike G. Morreale - NHL.com - Mar. 6th: "Scouts have taken notice after a solid summer of training, his versatility at playing all three forward positions and instincts to execute plays."

Sam Cosentino - Sportsnet - Mar. 4th: "The goal-scoring pops (48 in 59 games), especially since he doesn’t play on Ottawa’s top line. The developmental curve year over year has scouts excited about Quinn’s potential."

Mike G. Morreale - NHL.com - Feb. 5th: "Scouts have taken notice after a solid summer of training, his versatility at playing all three forward positions and instincts to execute plays."

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Just now, Marvin, Sabres Fan said:

It says more about Liger's integrity, which is more impressive.

Liger is integral.  We studied him in calculus way back when.

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1 minute ago, Marvin, Sabres Fan said:

It says more about Liger's integrity, which is more impressive.

Idk if I have integrity when it comes to drafts. I hope I have some. Drafts are hard and sadly this year I had less time than I do normally, so my knowledge from here to the end of the draft will be limited. I did spend some time today reading up on the players linked to Buffalo. Again, is Quinn the crazy goal scoring hard working 200ft guy he was in jan-march or is he the medicore player he was the previous year, idk. My gut tells me to lean towards hard worker who has untapped potential. 

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