shrader Posted June 20, 2018 Report Share Posted June 20, 2018 Trotz was 2 losses against CBJ in the first round from getting canned this past season. We have these stories every year it seems. This sounds exactly like Claude Julien in Boston. The hockey gods really like to string us along before spitting in our faces. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted June 20, 2018 Report Share Posted June 20, 2018 Quenneville is a master at the thing I would kill for Phil to become competent at. So is Trotz, actually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted June 20, 2018 Report Share Posted June 20, 2018 (edited) I mean he racked up 3 Cups and a more Conference Finals appearances too. Little different This board has taught me that conference finals appearances don't matter, and those 3 cups are more Bylsma-esque than anything. (I.e., right place at the right time.) Coaches who are able to "do more with less" are the ones who impress me. Edited June 20, 2018 by Eleven Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted June 20, 2018 Report Share Posted June 20, 2018 This board has taught me that conference finals appearances don't matter, and those 3 cups are more Bylsma-esque than anything. (I.e., right place at the right time.) Coaches who are able to "do more with less" are the ones who impress me. Coaches who are able to groom and grow their talent are what impress me. Quennenville took quite a few young players and made them better in his system and dominated, they played the right way. Byslma had 2 superstars and got dominated in his 1 Cup Final win and 2 Cup Finals appearances. He was lucky to win his Cup, Chicago never was Babcock, same thing. He took a lot of young talent in Detroit and made it into something Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted June 20, 2018 Report Share Posted June 20, 2018 Quenneville is a master at the thing I would kill for Phil to become competent at.Being able to eat a deep dish pizza in 1 sitting? Weird but okay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTS Posted June 20, 2018 Report Share Posted June 20, 2018 Being able to eat a deep dish pizza in 1 sitting? Weird but okay. I thought it was growing a killer 'stache. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted June 20, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2018 Babcock, same thing. He took a lot of young talent in Detroit and made it into something Have you looked at the roster he had in Det when he became their coach? Did you look at the roster 2 years later when they won the Cup? Ages when he arrived in ( ). Zetterberg (24) Lidstrom (36), Datsyuk (27), Holmstrom(32), Franzen (25), Osgood (32), Samuelsson (28) and Cleary (26) were all established players when he got there. Not exactly a kiddie core. The only true kids on the Cup team were Filppula and Hudler and their impact was significantly less then additions of aging vets Hasek and Rafalski. I like Babcock as a coach, but he came into a loaded situation and road the wave until the talent wore out and then went to Toronto. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubkev Posted June 20, 2018 Report Share Posted June 20, 2018 Being able to eat a deep dish pizza in 1 sitting? Weird but okay. You just open the trash and drop it in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunkard Posted June 20, 2018 Report Share Posted June 20, 2018 Quenneville is a master at the thing I would kill for Phil to become competent at. So is Trotz, actually. Being able to eat a deep dish pizza in 1 sitting? Weird but okay. I thought it was growing a killer 'stache. I thought it was getting maximum effort. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted June 20, 2018 Report Share Posted June 20, 2018 I thought it was getting maximum effort. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted June 20, 2018 Report Share Posted June 20, 2018 I still love Ted Nolan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabel79 Posted June 20, 2018 Report Share Posted June 20, 2018 I thought it was getting maximum effort. This post should have come with a trigger warning. Seeing Teds and the word "tank" in such close proximity caused me to hear the most awful, blood-curdling noise... it took a few seconds to realize it was actually me screaming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKnowPhysics Posted June 20, 2018 Report Share Posted June 20, 2018 RON ROLSTON [seizures intensify] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Buffalo Posted June 20, 2018 Report Share Posted June 20, 2018 (edited) My heart just palpated... love Ted but really at this time and date... need some heparin wyld fast... be ready with paddles if Sabrespacers start coding... Edited June 20, 2018 by North Buffalo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunkard Posted June 20, 2018 Report Share Posted June 20, 2018 RON ROLSTON [seizures intensify] I'll see your Ron Rolston and raise you a LARRY QUINN!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyldnwoody44 Posted June 21, 2018 Report Share Posted June 21, 2018 My heart just palpated... love Ted but really at this time and date... need some heparin wyld fast... be ready with paddles if Sabrespacers start coding... Heparin eh... I think we'll all just bleed out on our own Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted June 22, 2018 Report Share Posted June 22, 2018 Right? I feel like this is all just because he finally got over the hump and won a Cup. He was this close to losing early in the playoffs, again, and the fact that he finally didn't, all of the sudden people are clamoring for him? Just a ton of recency bias This is a great point, and a fascinating aspect of sports analysis in general. Is Brady no longer the GOAT if Pete Carroll does what anyone else in the world would have done, and ran Lynch at the goal line? Even though in both situations Brady would have done literally nothing different? Some would be saying so, if he had 4 titles instead of that unique-for-a-QB 5. It touches on one of my biggest pet peeves in sports, the greatness defined by championship argument. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerreaultForever Posted June 22, 2018 Report Share Posted June 22, 2018 Trotz is an excellent coach, but a lot of things have to come together for anyone to win the cup, and some of that is luck. He was starting to look like the Marty Shottenheimer of hockey, always good in the regular season crap in the playoffs, until finally this year a little luck, a little timing, some breaks, some goaltending moments and he finally won one. If he hadn't won it all this year he'd have been fired. The timing for us to hire him is wrong, and imo he does not fit with what they want to do here. If Housley doesn't pan out we'll probably wish we had him, but if Tavares doesn't sign on the Island Trotz's bubble will likely burst and fans there will wonder why he got a 5 year deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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