Crusader1969 Posted March 31, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2018 Do you want to finish bottom 5 next year? And give me Dahlin over Jack Hughes any day. where does 80 to 85 points get them? bottom 7 to 10 I guess? should have said REAL lucky :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted March 31, 2018 Report Share Posted March 31, 2018 (edited) where does 80 to 85 points get them? bottom 7 to 10 I guess? should have said REAL lucky :) Is that just something you feel is the highest improvement that is realistic, or where you actually want them to finish? Is your limit for "just get as high a pick as possible" having a shot at the playoffs, making the playoffs, or being a cup contender? Edited March 31, 2018 by Randall Flagg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubkev Posted March 31, 2018 Report Share Posted March 31, 2018 Bottom 5 til the end of time, baby! We'll have all the best draft picks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusader1969 Posted March 31, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2018 Is that just something you feel is the highest improvement that is realistic, or where you actually want them to finish? Is your limit for "just get as high a pick as possible" having a shot at the playoffs, making the playoffs, or being a cup contender? Of course I want them to be a cup contender, that's why i supported the Tank cause the end-game is to be a cup winner. At the same time, you have be realistic, I don't see them going from last to Stanley Cup in one season - Even if they get Dahlin. do you see them as being anything more that an 85 point team next year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted March 31, 2018 Report Share Posted March 31, 2018 Of course I want them to be a cup contender, that's why i supported the Tank cause the end-game is to be a cup winner. At the same time, you have be realistic, I don't see them going from last to Stanley Cup in one season - Even if they get Dahlin. do you see them as being anything more that an 85 point team next year? As of right now, I do not. I'm just probing your rooting interests. So, which of these seasons would you sign up for right now, if you had to pick one? Season A: Buffalo finishes with 79 points, an improvement from this year, but not really close to playoff hockey. Much easier to watch, still frustrating, but non-negligible improvement. Season B: Finishing dead last next year and having the best lottery odds. If you choose Season A, the game is over. If you choose B, which of the next two would you take? Season A: Buffalo finishes with 89 points, about 6 short of the playoff cutoff, showing improvements in all facets and being legitimately entertaining in 18-19. They end up with the lotto odds for the ~12th or 13th team. Season B: Dead last, best lottery odds. If you choose Season A, exercise over. If not, please continue! Which of these two seasons would you sign up for? Season A: Buffalo finishes as a 7/8 seed, and a likely first round out a la Toronto last year. Promising and exciting, but obviously not a deep playoff threat yet, with hopes to get there someday soon. Season B: Buffalo finishes dead last and gets the best Jack Hughes lottery odds. And if you choose season B again, one last question: Which season would you prefer? Season A: Buffalo finishes with 100 points and has a decent chance to do some damage in the playoffs, a la St. Louis any given year. Season B: Buffalo finishes with the best odds at Hughes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusader1969 Posted March 31, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2018 (edited) As of right now, I do not. I'm just probing your rooting interests. So, which of these seasons would you sign up for right now, if you had to pick one? Season A: Buffalo finishes with 79 points, an improvement from this year, but not really close to playoff hockey. Much easier to watch, still frustrating, but non-negligible improvement. Season B: Finishing dead last next year and having the best lottery odds. If you choose Season A, the game is over. If you choose B, which of the next two would you take? Season A: Buffalo finishes with 89 points, about 6 short of the playoff cutoff, showing improvements in all facets and being legitimately entertaining in 18-19. They end up with the lotto odds for the ~12th or 13th team. Season B: Dead last, best lottery odds. If you choose Season A, exercise over. If not, please continue! Which of these two seasons would you sign up for? Season A: Buffalo finishes as a 7/8 seed, and a likely first round out a la Toronto last year. Promising and exciting, but obviously not a deep playoff threat yet, with hopes to get there someday soon. Season B: Buffalo finishes dead last and gets the best Jack Hughes lottery odds. And if you choose season B again, one last question: Which season would you prefer? Season A: Buffalo finishes with 100 points and has a decent chance to do some damage in the playoffs, a la St. Louis any given year. Season B: Buffalo finishes with the best odds at Hughes. I stopped at Season A in the first Scenario. The important part of A is that the new non-negligible improvement comes from guys who will be on the roster the following year as well+. Now if you said Season B and they landed Hughes, I would really have to rethink that. How about you? Edited March 31, 2018 by Crusader1969 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabres Fan in NS Posted March 31, 2018 Report Share Posted March 31, 2018 Bottom 5 til the end of time, baby! We'll have all the best draft picks! The Edmonton Oilers of the East. :sick: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusader1969 Posted March 31, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2018 The Edmonton Oilers of the East. :sick: you would be happy if you were an Oilers fan - A playoff appearance last season and finishing 10th last this season. Mediocre hockey at its finest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubkev Posted March 31, 2018 Report Share Posted March 31, 2018 The Edmonton Oilers of the East. :sick: Nope. The Oilers have cups. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted April 1, 2018 Report Share Posted April 1, 2018 I stopped at Season A in the first Scenario. The important part of A is that the new non-negligible improvement comes from guys who will be on the roster the following year as well+. Now if you said Season B and they landed Hughes, I would really have to rethink that. How about you? Gotcha, thanks for answering. I think I get exactly where you're coming from overall now. Same, but my reasoning is that I just want the best season possible. Give me 69 points and 2nd last versus 68 and last. I know that seems unreasonable, but it's how I feel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted April 1, 2018 Report Share Posted April 1, 2018 It's not unreasonable. This is it. The breaking point. Get better or get off my team. I demand better next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunomatic Posted April 1, 2018 Report Share Posted April 1, 2018 It's not unreasonable. This is it. The breaking point. Get better or get off my team. I demand better next season. Yeah. Tired of losing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted April 1, 2018 Report Share Posted April 1, 2018 Deserving has got nothing to do with it. So close!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted April 1, 2018 Report Share Posted April 1, 2018 damn, I was going off memory. Also that's a solid western Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabres Fan in NS Posted April 1, 2018 Report Share Posted April 1, 2018 Nope. The Oilers have cups. Eons ago, but you are right. Mid-80s to 1990 Oilers = :wub: More recent Oilers = :sick: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabre fan Posted April 1, 2018 Report Share Posted April 1, 2018 (edited) cannot figure how someone thinks this team "doesn't deserve" to win the lottery...like which team "deserves it more" in your estimation? you must be a Oiler fan! Like they deserve to get 1st pick over and over??either way it isi safe to say the NHL will see to it we go as far down as possible which I think is 4. we still should get someone pretty good but he sin;t going to help right away as Dahlin could and would. Edited April 1, 2018 by Sabre fan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabres Fan in NS Posted April 1, 2018 Report Share Posted April 1, 2018 Oh, that's nice. Real nice. Bloody hell!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted April 1, 2018 Report Share Posted April 1, 2018 It's not unreasonable. This is it. The breaking point. Get better or get off my team. I demand better next season. I agree. The Sabres better be hockey 500 or better next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusader1969 Posted April 1, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 1, 2018 (edited) Wahlstrom in good company: Edited April 2, 2018 by Crusader1969 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted April 2, 2018 Report Share Posted April 2, 2018 https://thehockeywriters.com/2018-nhl-draft-rankings-10-risers-april/ Some rapid risers up the draft board Wahlstrome in good company: He needs to be in the conversation for 4th or 5th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted April 2, 2018 Report Share Posted April 2, 2018 Dominik Bokk and Nils Lundkvist are 2 players I hope slide to round 2. Fun fact on Bokk, he sits at #8 on the ppg list I have running. He was over a ppg player in the Super Elite (J20). I'd say Bokk and Lundkvist have a shot to be there at round 2 although they are risers on the draft boards. Lundkvist may slide simple because there are a lot of defense prospects. I have 18 right now in the top 40. and 13 in my top 30. This is all subject to change as I am currently just putting the rough list together but still it is interesting. In the last 3 drafts we have 8, 9, and 9 defenders taken (2015-2017) in the first round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted April 3, 2018 Report Share Posted April 3, 2018 Senators down 5-3 entering the 3rd against Winnipeg. Looks like our game against them may be the deciding factor between last place and 2nd to last place Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted April 3, 2018 Report Share Posted April 3, 2018 Play Wilcox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted April 3, 2018 Report Share Posted April 3, 2018 We're going to kick the Sens' and you're gonna like it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted April 3, 2018 Report Share Posted April 3, 2018 Senators down 5-3 entering the 3rd against Winnipeg. Looks like our game against them may be the deciding factor between last place and 2nd to last place Even if Buffalo beats the Otters, you expect them to get the point or 2 they need to crawl into 30th in FLA? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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