LGR4GM Posted June 27, 2017 Report Share Posted June 27, 2017 (edited) Bylsma sucked. Which Sabre will see the biggest turnaround in their game following the switch to a new coach. Eichel doesn't count because he was good and will just be even better. I mean a guy who looked crappy in the 2 years of Bylsma and will now just actually be a hockey player. Edited June 27, 2017 by LGR4GM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted June 27, 2017 Report Share Posted June 27, 2017 I think both Girgs and Bogo have an equal shot at redeption. They both play a game I can only describe as dumb. Not that either are dumb, but their game is dumb. I suspect that an up tempo attacking game will suit both of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted June 27, 2017 Report Share Posted June 27, 2017 Make a poll. Let's see who people have the most faith in. There's a handful of players who we could want to rebound.-Moulson -Ennis -Girgs -Bogo Is there anyone else? Can Ristolainen be on that list? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted June 27, 2017 Report Share Posted June 27, 2017 Grigorenko. :angel: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted June 27, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 27, 2017 Make a poll. Let's see who people have the most faith in. There's a handful of players who we could want to rebound. -Moulson -Ennis -Girgs -Bogo Is there anyone else? Can Ristolainen be on that list? Risto had a pretty solid season as is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted June 27, 2017 Report Share Posted June 27, 2017 I think Gorges and Ennis can't, because of age/injuries. I don't think Bogosian will become a good hockey player but there's a decent chance he's not quite as bad. I see a lot of growth potential in Zemgus, and I liked hearing them describe him as versatile because I think being the center on a low line in the type of system Housley described, OR opening space for Jack, can be good for him. He and Jack perform well together. I need to see what the system looks like on the ice before I can make predictions about a guy like Sam, though I know Liger isn't talking about a player like him. I think Foligno had the best years of his career the past two, as in the most consistent, so I don't think he's a candidate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted June 27, 2017 Report Share Posted June 27, 2017 Risto had a pretty solid season as is. But we all felt he was being abused by Bylsma and his offensive game was lacking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted June 27, 2017 Report Share Posted June 27, 2017 I don't think we're out of the woods with Risto just yet. With a defense corps as weak and limited as ours is, any coach in the world is going to be tempted to lean too much on Rasmus. Let's see if Phil can abstain and give him ideal minutes for development. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted June 27, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 27, 2017 But we all felt he was being abused by Bylsma and his offensive game was lacking. Byslma's coaching was abusive to everyone. It is why Jack Eichel went into it mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffismagic Posted June 27, 2017 Report Share Posted June 27, 2017 I think Bogo can be decent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustache of God Posted June 27, 2017 Report Share Posted June 27, 2017 I voted for Bogo. I think we saw what Moulson will be last year and, while I hope I'm wrong, Enzo is donezo. I know nothing about Bogosian pre-sabres. What prompted the insane deal he has right now? Did he ever play at a level to earn the contract or was WPG management hoping he would have grown into the contract and have it be "value" down the line if he projected the way they thought he would? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampD Posted June 27, 2017 Report Share Posted June 27, 2017 I don't think Zemgus should even be on the list. If we had had a real NHL team since he's been here, next year would be his first with the Sabres. I can't believe he's only 23. My guess is Bogo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spndnchz Posted June 27, 2017 Report Share Posted June 27, 2017 I'm not sure that Moulson or Bogo get a chance to, on this team anyways. Too many contracts, too many players, too much salary cap, and still need to add a few UFA's. JBot's got a busy weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted June 27, 2017 Report Share Posted June 27, 2017 None: they are who we thought they were. Bogosian is not good. He has never been good. Be will not be good. Though I do expect he'll be improved enough that we're no longer pining for the days of Mess and Balls. Ennis is cooked. He's not the same, and the league is so much faster now, that even with his old wheels he wouldn't have a speed advantage. Moulson is shot. He can put up some PP points, but is overall pretty useless. He just can keep up anymore. Girgensons never died. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted June 27, 2017 Report Share Posted June 27, 2017 Ennis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuckinFL Posted June 27, 2017 Report Share Posted June 27, 2017 I think Bogosian is what he's always been. A decent defender that has issues staying healthy and will occasionally make out right dumb decisions. With the right linemate his mistakes can be covered, but I don't see his upside honestly getting great out of nowhere. Ennis will get better and more fun to watch but I think he's not going to improve and be one of our top guys. Which is unfortunate, because he was a great player to watch and I loved rooting for his success. Moulson will stay right where he was last year. Kind of meh, good on the powerplay, but slow. I think he's got one more season before it gets worse and retirement is a serious thought. Especially if he get injured. That leaves us with Girgensons. The guy who looked absolutely lost on the ice all season. If anyone was in the doghouse with Bylsma it was Girgs. Then he tried to get on board and lost all semblance of looking like he had under Nolan. He'll have the most dramatic rise again simply because I can imagine he has to be the most excited for a new coach. That alone will have him pushing himself harder. Plus, with him playing a more run and gun game that doesn't require him memorizing 9 dry erase board I think he'll trust his instincts more and have an extra step to his game. Having fun and playing the game his way will be dramatic for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi2000 Posted June 27, 2017 Report Share Posted June 27, 2017 I don't think a new coach will improve the play of Bogosian... or anybody for that matter. I picked Ennis because I'm hoping he's turned the corner and we'll see the Ennis of a few years back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted June 27, 2017 Report Share Posted June 27, 2017 I don't think a new coach will improve the play of Bogosian... or anybody for that matter. So coaching doesn't matter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubkev Posted June 27, 2017 Report Share Posted June 27, 2017 So coaching doesn't matter? Not as much as a good college education. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted June 27, 2017 Report Share Posted June 27, 2017 Not as much as a good college education. But can you coach a good college education? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubkev Posted June 27, 2017 Report Share Posted June 27, 2017 But can you coach a good college education? At that point it's all about who gets luckiest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted June 27, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 27, 2017 But can you coach a good college education? Yes, it is called teaching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted June 27, 2017 Report Share Posted June 27, 2017 At that point it's all about who gets luckiest. Really that's all college should be about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabres Fan in NS Posted June 27, 2017 Report Share Posted June 27, 2017 I think all our goalies can be better at controlling rebounds. Wait, did I do that right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted June 27, 2017 Report Share Posted June 27, 2017 I don't think a new coach will improve the play of Bogosian... or anybody for that matter. I think the old coach preached such a terrible system that it made most of the team worse than they are, especially on the blue line. I expect the whole team to rebound this year under a more up-tempo system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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