Brawndo Posted June 12, 2017 Report Share Posted June 12, 2017 Friedman says he thinks CBJ & VGK have a deal where David Clarkson lands in Vegas, along with a 1st + prospect (960). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted June 12, 2017 Report Share Posted June 12, 2017 Friedman says he thinks CBJ & VGK have a deal where David Clarkson lands in Vegas, along with a 1st + prospect (960). Wow, that's a nice haul for Vegas just to take a contract on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted June 12, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 12, 2017 Marc Andre Fleury has agreed to waive his NTC For Las Vegas only. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted June 12, 2017 Report Share Posted June 12, 2017 Sens ask Dion Phaneuf to waive NMC for purposes of expansion draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted June 12, 2017 Report Share Posted June 12, 2017 Vegas quickly becoming a team I can easily hate I see Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwksndmonster Posted June 12, 2017 Report Share Posted June 12, 2017 I'm pretty intrigued by Vegas. I've never seen an expansion team before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanny Posted June 12, 2017 Report Share Posted June 12, 2017 Vegas quickly becoming a team I can easily hate I see I think them waiving their clauses just means they're exposed in the draft, not that they necessarily will be selected by Vegas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted June 12, 2017 Report Share Posted June 12, 2017 xxx - Shipachyov - xxx xxx - xxx - xxx xxx - xxx - xxx xxx - xxx - xxx xxx - xxx Phaneuf - xxx xxx - xxx Fleury xxx This team is already going to be better than the Canucks, has better goaltending than the Flames, and has a better defense than the Sabres, and has a better center spine than the division winning Canadiens. Look out Pacific Division :flirt: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted June 12, 2017 Report Share Posted June 12, 2017 Don't forget Reid Duke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabel79 Posted June 12, 2017 Report Share Posted June 12, 2017 I'm pretty intrigued by Vegas. I've never seen an expansion team before. Welp. Death just popped up in my living room and is for some reason laughing at me... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted June 12, 2017 Report Share Posted June 12, 2017 xxx - Shipachyov - xxx xxx - xxx - xxx xxx - xxx - xxx xxx - xxx - xxx xxx - xxx Phaneuf - xxx xxx - xxx Fleury xxx This team is already going to be better than the Canucks, has better goaltending than the Flames, and has a better defense than the Sabres, and has a better center spine than the division winning Canadiens. Look out Pacific Division :flirt: Better defense? lol not yet... give them a week :ph34r: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted June 12, 2017 Report Share Posted June 12, 2017 Better defense? lol not yet... give them a week :ph34r: I'm just joshin haha I think it might play out where Vegas is a bit too not-terrible to get a top 3 or 4 draft lottery slot though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tondas Posted June 12, 2017 Report Share Posted June 12, 2017 (edited) I'm pretty intrigued by Vegas. I've never seen an expansion team before. Youngster ;) . I remember the expansion 1970 Sabres (was a 9 year old). I get your point, though. Hearing all the behind-the-scenes stuff is fascinating. And the salary cap era really adds another dimension of creativity. In JBOT I trust (until I see what coach he hires). Edited June 12, 2017 by Tondas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted June 12, 2017 Report Share Posted June 12, 2017 No movement clauses are kind of a joke. Look at the Phaneuf instance. When a team asks a player to waive their NMC, that puts the player in a really difficult position. Can the guy really refuse, knowing their team doesn't want them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattPie Posted June 12, 2017 Report Share Posted June 12, 2017 (edited) I'm just joshin haha I think it might play out where Vegas is a bit too not-terrible to get a top 3 or 4 draft lottery slot though. It wouldn't surprise me if they finish at 25th +- 2 spots. They'll have a roster of NHL players (which is better than some teams), but they're all going to be players that are 2nd-3rd line and 2nd pair D at best. OK, but who is going to score goals and who will match up against top lines? No movement clauses are kind of a joke. Look at the Phaneuf instance. When a team asks a player to waive their NMC, that puts the player in a really difficult position. Can the guy really refuse, knowing their team doesn't want them? Depends, right? Some players would be fine with the question, reject it, and go back to work. Edited June 12, 2017 by MattPie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted June 12, 2017 Report Share Posted June 12, 2017 I think Vegas is more conscious of their future than a lot of people are giving them credit for. They won't pick the team that gives then the best chance to win this fall. They will pick a team that gives them the best package of assets to set them up for ten years of success. That means picking players because of the promise of picks, or that they can flip for picks. And, yes, it will mean an element of tanking. I can't see any way, however, that McPhee will hand Gallant a worse team than the one Tim Murray gave Ted Nolan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted June 12, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 12, 2017 MAF has a modified No Trade List with a total of 12 Teams listed. Per David Pagotta of the 4th Period the only known team of the 12 on the list is Buffalo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted June 12, 2017 Report Share Posted June 12, 2017 MAF has a modified No Trade List with a total of 12 Teams listed. Per David Pagotta of the 4th Period the only known team of the 12 on the list is Buffalo Thank god. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted June 12, 2017 Report Share Posted June 12, 2017 Here's a thread for non-Sabres expansion draft action. Fire at will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted June 12, 2017 Report Share Posted June 12, 2017 I'm just joshin haha I think it might play out where Vegas is a bit too not-terrible to get a top 3 or 4 draft lottery slot though. that's why I said give them a week lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted June 12, 2017 Report Share Posted June 12, 2017 (edited) MAF has a modified No Trade List with a total of 12 Teams listed. Per David Pagotta of the 4th Period the only known team of the 12 on the list is Buffalo Thank God. EDIT: LOL, Liger beats me to it. Edited June 12, 2017 by dudacek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted June 12, 2017 Report Share Posted June 12, 2017 I think Vegas is more conscious of their future than a lot of people are giving them credit for. They won't pick the team that gives then the best chance to win this fall. They will pick a team that gives them the best package of assets to set them up for ten years of success. That means picking players because of the promise of picks, or that they can flip for picks. And, yes, it will mean an element of tanking. I can't see any way, however, that McPhee will hand Gallant a worse team than the one Tim Murray gave Ted Nolan. Likely a ton of truth in this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyK Posted June 12, 2017 Report Share Posted June 12, 2017 Best off season ever!!!! VGK moves will have a domino effect all over the league! ps trade or sign Kane now!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom webster Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 No movement clauses are kind of a joke. Look at the Phaneuf instance. When a team asks a player to waive their NMC, that puts the player in a really difficult position. Can the guy really refuse, knowing their team doesn't want them? Just because a team asks a player to waive clause doesn't mean they don't want him. They could just be betting that Vegas won't take that player and by waiving NMC the team can protect someone else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 Just because a team asks a player to waive clause doesn't mean they don't want him. They could just be betting that Vegas won't take that player and by waiving NMC the team can protect someone else. The inference there from the player can easily be that the team is more willing to lose him, than someone or everyone else they protected. Unless they have a deal in place with Vegas or an insistence from Vegas that Phaneuf won't be selected, they run the risk of him being taken. That they'd be willing to risk it for you and not others could be seen as a slight on your abilities. I'm not saying this is the case even half the time, but there's no doubt it can lead to players being put in a tough place by being asked to relinquish a bargained for agreeement. And not all players would be offended by it. Of course, it would depend on the player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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