Weave Posted May 12, 2017 Report Share Posted May 12, 2017 (edited) Oooh. I sorta forgot about that one. Okay - they did a song I like. This ranks right up there with Eleven's poor taste in food. Development at the AHL being such a key part of The Botterill Doctrine, this guy better get some serious time. Relax, Terry. Actually, I think Terry will give it to him, this being, very arguably, his first actual general manager hire as owner. The fans? Maybe not so much. But we've got a ways to go, folks. The smell of the old core, the tank and GMTM all are very much still wafting over the franchise. Change your handle to That One Buffalo Smell? Edited May 12, 2017 by We've Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted May 12, 2017 Report Share Posted May 12, 2017 I think Smell will like this. 2017-2018 OUT: Eichel's bratty "yeah" while reporters are asking him questions IN: Botterill's cheerful "yip" while reporters are asking him questions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claude Balls Posted May 12, 2017 Report Share Posted May 12, 2017 :lol: Is that a done deal or still speculation @ this point? Someone from Pittsburgh said it was a done deal, but I have no clue who this guy was. He mentioned it a few times. I don't really believe it, but who knows. Apparently Botterill had an oral agreement with the Pegula's to be the GM over a week ago, so you never know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted May 12, 2017 Report Share Posted May 12, 2017 @we've: that song and video hit me at the right time. (I was a kid.) @PA: Yes! More! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabills Posted May 12, 2017 Report Share Posted May 12, 2017 Ouch, guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted May 12, 2017 Report Share Posted May 12, 2017 Ouch, guys. Do you really think Bylsma is stung? He worked for two years, got paid a boatload of money and will continue to get paid a boatload. Now he has a TV gig. Poor guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabills Posted May 12, 2017 Report Share Posted May 12, 2017 Do you really think Bylsma is stung? He worked for two years, got paid a boatload of money and will continue to get paid a boatload. Now he has a TV gig. Poor guy. I'm not saying I feel particularly bad for him, but that's an awkward line of questioning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted May 12, 2017 Report Share Posted May 12, 2017 @SabresBuzz "An amazing top four defenseman", Botterill on Ristolainen. Raved about Risto's WJC gold medal GWG @SabresBuzz Botterill calls Antipin the new age puck mover. Gets puck to forwards @SabresBuzz Jason Botterill tells Howard Simon he has a great relationship with Viktor Antipin's agent. He will reach out and discuss further Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted May 12, 2017 Report Share Posted May 12, 2017 @SabresBuzz "An amazing top four defenseman", Botterill on Ristolainen. Raved about Risto's WJC gold medal GWG @SabresBuzz Botterill calls Antipin the new age puck mover. Gets puck to forwards @SabresBuzz Jason Botterill tells Howard Simon he has a great relationship with Viktor Antipin's agent. He will reach out and discuss further This is all encouraging news. I think it also bodes well that we're not hearing from JBOT that Risto is a clear #1. The guy needs better usage, more support. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted May 12, 2017 Report Share Posted May 12, 2017 (edited) Good article on the hire. Got me feeling much more optimistic https://www.fanragsports.com/nhl/sabres/sabres-committing-change-botterill-hiring/ Edited May 12, 2017 by WildCard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabills Posted May 12, 2017 Report Share Posted May 12, 2017 Good article on the hire. Got me feeling much more optimistic https://www.fanragsports.com/nhl/sabres/sabres-committing-change-botterill-hiring/ I think the handling of the cap is the thing I'm most interested in with J-bot. Its never really been an issue here before; when the cap initially went in we had an owner who would never spend enough to get to it anyways, and since then we haven't had players worth paying enough that it would have been a big problem. Eichel, Kane, Reinhart are all up next year, not to mention Lehner and whatever D-men you manage to bring in. That'll be a big challenge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabres Fan in NS Posted May 12, 2017 Report Share Posted May 12, 2017 The thread title is very confusing. Is Jason the Sabres new GM, or did the new Sabres hire him as GM? What gives? :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted May 12, 2017 Report Share Posted May 12, 2017 This is all encouraging news. I think it also bodes well that we're not hearing from JBOT that Risto is a clear #1. The guy needs better usage, more support. Of everything I've heard him say, this is far and away the most encouraging. I fully expect him to try to assemble a balanced top-4, rather than one pair that gets 25+ per game and is always matched against the other team's best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted May 12, 2017 Report Share Posted May 12, 2017 Of everything I've heard him say, this is far and away the most encouraging. I fully expect him to try to assemble a balanced top-4, rather than one pair that gets 25+ per game and is always matched against the other team's best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasmus_ Posted May 12, 2017 Report Share Posted May 12, 2017 Ouch, guys. Meh. All that's needed to say! :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi2000 Posted May 12, 2017 Report Share Posted May 12, 2017 I think the handling of the cap is the thing I'm most interested in with J-bot. Its never really been an issue here before; when the cap initially went in we had an owner who would never spend enough to get to it anyways, and since then we haven't had players worth paying enough that it would have been a big problem. Eichel, Kane, Reinhart are all up next year, not to mention Lehner and whatever D-men you manage to bring in. That'll be a big challenge. I think he understands the nuances of the cap very well but I'm not entirely sold on how it was managed in PIT. Next season the Pens have just 13 skaters under contract, with only $12m in cap space to fill 12 spots on the roster. They have $52m, over 70% of their cap, tied up in only 9 players. $38m, 50% of their cap, is going to 5 players.... Crosy, Maklin. Kessel, Letang, Fluery. That said it seems his philosophy is to pay the stars, then fill in around them with young players on ELCs and such.... I'm not so sure that's going to work consistently. I understand he put a big emphasis on developing the young players, but it's rare that you have 4 guys like Sheary (undrafted), Guentzel (3rd rnd), Rust (3rd rnd), and Kuhnhackl (4th rnd) all making such large contributions. Without those 4 performing as well as they have, I'm not sure PIT is in their current position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted May 12, 2017 Report Share Posted May 12, 2017 I think he understands the nuances of the cap very well but I'm not entirely sold on how it was managed in PIT. Next season the Pens have just 13 skaters under contract, with only $12m in cap space to fill 12 spots on the roster. They have $52m, over 70% of their cap, tied up in only 9 players. $38m, 50% of their cap, is going to 5 players.... Crosy, Maklin. Kessel, Letang, Fluery. That said it seems his philosophy is to pay the stars, then fill in around them with young players on ELCs and such.... I'm not so sure that's going to work consistently. I understand he put a big emphasis on developing the young players, but it's rare that you have 4 guys like Sheary (undrafted), Guentzel (3rd rnd), Rust (3rd rnd), and Kuhnhackl (4th rnd) all making such large contributions. Without those 4 performing as well as they have, I'm not sure PIT is in their current position. I'd be interested to know if this is the case for a lot of teams. I'd think it is Is Botterill responsible for Fleury? The rest of those guys are easily, without question worth the money they're paid. Is it that rare? I'm not so sure it is. And if it is, seems like a good thing to have the guy that can apparently pull that off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted May 12, 2017 Report Share Posted May 12, 2017 I think he understands the nuances of the cap very well but I'm not entirely sold on how it was managed in PIT. Next season the Pens have just 13 skaters under contract, with only $12m in cap space to fill 12 spots on the roster. They have $52m, over 70% of their cap, tied up in only 9 players. $38m, 50% of their cap, is going to 5 players.... Crosy, Maklin. Kessel, Letang, Fluery. That said it seems his philosophy is to pay the stars, then fill in around them with young players on ELCs and such.... I'm not so sure that's going to work consistently. I understand he put a big emphasis on developing the young players, but it's rare that you have 4 guys like Sheary (undrafted), Guentzel (3rd rnd), Rust (3rd rnd), and Kuhnhackl (4th rnd) all making such large contributions. Without those 4 performing as well as they have, I'm not sure PIT is in their current position. It's worked well for both Pittsburgh and Chicago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted May 12, 2017 Report Share Posted May 12, 2017 (edited) Said this morning that it's crucial the team takes advantage of the cap space it has right now. The implication was that we have space other teams do not have. I have great faith that any buyouts we make or salaries we take on will be fully thought out in terms of their long-term implications. This guy knows his numbers. Exudes confidence when talking on this subject. Edited May 12, 2017 by dudacek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted May 12, 2017 Report Share Posted May 12, 2017 (edited) Talked about wingers for Jack and Ryan: he wants fast guys who can forecheck hard and get them the puck. Bodes well for Carrier, Baptiste, Fasching and Bailey. Not so much Moulson. Wonder if Girgensons will finally get a shot with Jack? Have yet to hear his thoughts on Kane. Edited May 12, 2017 by dudacek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SabresFanInRochester Posted May 12, 2017 Report Share Posted May 12, 2017 I find it interesting that J-Bot commented on the challenge he is going to have filling out the top defenders. That every team is always looking to get better. What I find interesting is that was one of Murray's biggest criticisms. Why couldn't Murray make the defense better? According to J-Bot, there is not a lot of available talent out there. I am ready to move on from GMTM. I still firmly believe the downfall of GMTM was not the lineup and/or record, but the attitude and demeanor in which he interacted (or didn't interact) with people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted May 12, 2017 Report Share Posted May 12, 2017 Talked about wingers for Jack and Ryan: he wants fast guys who can forecheck hard and get them the puck. Bodes well for Carrier, Baptiste, Fasching and Bailey. Not so much Moulson. Wonder if Girgensons will finally get a shot with Jack? Have yet to hear his thoughts on Kane. If that's what he's looking for in his wingers, sounds like he'd love Kane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted May 12, 2017 Report Share Posted May 12, 2017 I still firmly believe the downfall of GMTM was not the lineup and/or record, but the attitude and demeanor in which he interacted (or didn't interact) with people. I think this is right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted May 12, 2017 Report Share Posted May 12, 2017 If that's what he's looking for in his wingers, sounds like he'd love Kane And makes me wonder again if Reinhart maybe doesn't have much of a role here going forward Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted May 12, 2017 Report Share Posted May 12, 2017 And makes me wonder again if Reinhart maybe doesn't have much of a role here going forward Well, if he is indeed a winger in Botterill's mind, which appears to be up in the air, he certainly isn't a fast one that can go hard on the forecheck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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