GASabresIUFAN Posted May 9, 2017 Report Share Posted May 9, 2017 (edited) Is there a Pittsburgh way of doing things? I have been impressed at how well the Pens survive injuries and seem to continually find good depth at both end of the ice, especially up front. Guys like Rust (3rd rd pick in 2010), Sheary, Guentzal (3rd rd pick in 2013), and Dumoulin (2nd rd pick in 2009) have all come up front the A and made significant contributions. They have alot in common. They all are college guys and all have spent at least a year in the A before being called up. Is this JB's depth development strategy? Can we expect this in Buffalo? What else can we expect? Pitt has made many hockey trades to improve the team. Often with their D depth. Guys like Goligoski and Whitney were traded for Kunitz, Neal and Niskanen, and later traded Neal fpr Hornqvist. I love how they found guys who were bad fits in other organizations, but their scouts felt they'd work in the Pitt lineups. Trades for guys like Hagelin and Daley. They also seem to keep most of their higher end picks while keeping their run going. They have made 14 first and second rd picks since 2009, although they have only made 1 1st rd pick in the last 4 years. So how does this style apply to the Sabres? Edited May 13, 2017 by GASabresFan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted May 9, 2017 Report Share Posted May 9, 2017 I think we can expect a better on-ice product in Rochester, which is an under-the-radar aspect of running a successful franchise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted May 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 9, 2017 (edited) I think we can expect a better on-ice product in Rochester, which is an under-the-radar aspect of running a successful franchise. Totally agree. Edited May 9, 2017 by GASabresFan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted May 9, 2017 Report Share Posted May 9, 2017 Totally agree. IMO a lot of the rest is going to be a learning experience for us - we don't really know the degree of his involvement with things in Pittsburgh, so I don't think we can predict what kind of trades and players he goes for, and stuff like that. I'd still be willing to place money on him not being as willing to part with pieces as Murray was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted May 9, 2017 Report Share Posted May 9, 2017 (edited) I think you will see an AGM in charge of player development, which includes managing the Amerks. I think you will see another AGM in charge of "moneypuck" - managing the cap and targeting value contracts. I think you will see a specific tone set for the organization on and off the ice and those who don't fit quietly being moved on. I think you will see much less entertaining press conferences and fewer insights into what the GM is thinking. I also like Botterill''s chances for identifying and acquiring an younger, undervalued Forbort/Murray type to play in the top four and an older Hainsey/Daley type to round out the top six. This has been a recent Pittsburgh forte. Edited May 9, 2017 by dudacek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jsixspd Posted May 9, 2017 Report Share Posted May 9, 2017 After enduring 2 years of Pittsburgh's "Stanley Cup winning" HC molding the Sabres, I'm so not optimistic about the results of The Pittsburgh Effect on the Sabres. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted May 9, 2017 Report Share Posted May 9, 2017 What I'm immediately, and mostly, going to judge him on is his head coach selection Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radar Posted May 9, 2017 Report Share Posted May 9, 2017 Wouldn't it be something if it's not Botterill? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted May 9, 2017 Report Share Posted May 9, 2017 (edited) Wouldn't it be something if it's not Botterill? Edited May 9, 2017 by WildCard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gramps Posted May 9, 2017 Report Share Posted May 9, 2017 Wouldn't it be something if it's not Botterill? It be Botterill - Nashville series over - Fenton would've been announced by now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I-90 W Posted May 9, 2017 Report Share Posted May 9, 2017 I expect a focus on drafting, the organization as a whole, and a more evened approach. Honestly though hard to gauge how aggressive he'll be having the actual keys to the kingdom so to speak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woods-racer Posted May 9, 2017 Report Share Posted May 9, 2017 I think you will see an AGM in charge of player development, which includes managing the Amerks. I think you will see another AGM in charge of "moneypuck" - managing the cap and targeting value contracts. I think you will see a specific tone set for the organization on and off the ice and those who don't fit quietly being moved on. I think you will see much less entertaining press conferences and fewer insights into what the GM is thinking. I also like Botterill''s chances for identifying and acquiring an younger, undervalued Forbort/Murray type to play in the top four and an older Hainsey/Daley type to round out the top six. This has been a recent Pittsburgh forte. Thought about this for a while. This is very logical. No need for a PoHO with an AGM or two. The Sabres hit the ground running with an experienced GM and the GM hand picks the proteges and coach. Fits the mold of successful hockey organizations, just skinning the cat a little different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3putt Posted May 9, 2017 Report Share Posted May 9, 2017 Black and gold unis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woods-racer Posted May 9, 2017 Report Share Posted May 9, 2017 (edited) Black and gold unis If they start calling him *Jack the Kid* we're going to square off buddy..... edit: need to add one of these :nana: Edited May 9, 2017 by Woods-Racer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kas23 Posted May 9, 2017 Report Share Posted May 9, 2017 Expect structure, communication, discipline, and character. Order doesn't matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi2000 Posted May 9, 2017 Report Share Posted May 9, 2017 I expect the following: - purge one or both of Moulson/Bogosian from the roster - sign a top 5 UFA D - replace the coaching staff in Rochester - sign Lehner to a bridge deal - do something with RFAs Foligno, Larsson, and Girgensons... don't just automatically give them new deals, they're part of the problem. - pay Eichel and Kane - acquire backup tendy, let Ullmark play another season in Roch - draft BPA at 8 and/or use extra 2nd/3rd picks to move back up - use more than 3 words at the draft podium - bring in some bottom 6 Fs who can defend - hire Clark Donatelli as HC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7+6=13 Posted May 9, 2017 Report Share Posted May 9, 2017 (edited) I expect a focus on drafting, the organization as a whole, and a more evened approach. Honestly though hard to gauge how aggressive he'll be having the actual keys to the kingdom so to speak. I don't really understand this post. Drafting and an even (flat and smooth) approach isn't what this team needs. It needs a totally different mindset - mostly from the NHL head coach, a defense that needs to be rebuilt or assembled depending on how you define our D, decisions on Kane and probably goaltender and smart resolutions to some of the contracts not working in the teams favor. The pending expansion team and who you expose is important in that you need to make sure the player you want taken by them - gets taken. Moves need to be made so aggression will be needed. Drafting is a process that often takes 3-4 years to see the benefits. I know it's an important thing to keep the team replenished but that's not where we're at now. Edited May 9, 2017 by 7+6=13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I-90 W Posted May 9, 2017 Report Share Posted May 9, 2017 I don't really understand this post. Drafting and an even (flat and smooth) approach isn't what this team needs. It needs a totally different mindset - mostly from the NHL head coach, a defense that needs to be rebuilt or assembled depending on how you define our D, decisions on Kane and probably goaltender and smart resolutions to some of the contracts not working in the teams favor. The pending expansion team and who you expose is important in that you need to make sure the player you want taken by them - gets taken. Moves need to be made so aggression will be needed. Drafting is a process that often takes 3-4 years to see the benefits. I know it's an important thing to keep the team replenished but that's not where we're at now. By even approach I'm referring to not neglecting our defense. As far as aggressive GMs are concerned, I liked that about TM. Years of DR made me appreciate a new GM who is bold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tondas Posted May 10, 2017 Report Share Posted May 10, 2017 (edited) No more ribald fun. :( Edited May 10, 2017 by Tondas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottysabres Posted May 10, 2017 Report Share Posted May 10, 2017 Rochester should most certainly improve over the next 2 seasons. Say what you want about JB but he did great work building a development system for players in the Pitt pipe line. The coach, that is where my interest lay. What is the strategy given the talent you've just been handed? The previous coach failed, will the next one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7+6=13 Posted May 10, 2017 Report Share Posted May 10, 2017 By even approach I'm referring to not neglecting our defense. As far as aggressive GMs are concerned, I liked that about TM. Years of DR made me appreciate a new GM who is bold. He won't neglect the defense just as Murray didn't - mainly because it's the elephant in the room. The difficulty will be making the correct decisions - that's what Murray did wrong. I'm confident that was a large part of what was discussed in the interview process. Choosing a coach that through his philosophy can make the defense better than the limited physical ability and/or experience will be important. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubkev Posted May 10, 2017 Report Share Posted May 10, 2017 This needs a re-post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SabresFanInRochester Posted May 10, 2017 Report Share Posted May 10, 2017 I watched this twice and believe I laughed harder the second time. Loved it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabres Fan in NS Posted May 10, 2017 Report Share Posted May 10, 2017 The Internet is (mostly) a wonderful thing. :w00t: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducky Posted May 11, 2017 Report Share Posted May 11, 2017 I'm not sure if you guys know this but JB grew up in Winnipeg and has a sister (Jennifer) that had a stellar career with the Canandian National Women's Hockey Team. His dad (Cal) is a sports psychologist and if I am not mistaken, used to work for the Rags organization. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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