nfreeman Posted January 4, 2017 Report Share Posted January 4, 2017 It can't be because Toronto employs 3 AHL defensemen, right? Would you trade our first round pick this year for Marner? If yes, what's the most you'd give up fpr Marner? Reinhart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsb Posted January 4, 2017 Report Share Posted January 4, 2017 Reinhart. Even if you would, why would the Leafs do that??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted January 4, 2017 Report Share Posted January 4, 2017 Reinhart.I would too Even if you would, why would the Leafs do that???They need centers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted January 4, 2017 Report Share Posted January 4, 2017 Yes to Hammy as a good play by play guy. A double yes. I'm still not sure why that didn't come to pass. Blue, what long-held beliefs has analytics disproven? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted January 4, 2017 Report Share Posted January 4, 2017 (edited) Yes to Hammy as a good play by play guy. A double yes. I'm still not sure why that didn't come to pass. Blue, what long-held beliefs has analytics disproven? The value of +/- as a stat, the value of hits, the value of a defenseman who can't get out of his own zone effectively, the overratedness of faceoffs over the course of a season, the general ineffectiveness of a dump and chase, when to pull the goalie, and more. Edited January 4, 2017 by TrueBlueGED Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted January 4, 2017 Report Share Posted January 4, 2017 The Tank was/is still a lousy strategy. Jack is not, will not be generational. And Sam will be fine as long as we accept that a Patrick Sharp level forward is fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted January 5, 2017 Report Share Posted January 5, 2017 The Tank was/is still a lousy strategy. Jack is not, will not be generational. And Sam will be fine as long as we accept that a Patrick Sharp level forward is fine. Eh, I'll give you one of those Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthEbriate Posted January 5, 2017 Report Share Posted January 5, 2017 Home teams wear white. Yes. If you have a player like Pavel Bure, you let him ignore the mucking-along-the-boards defensive responsibilities, hover near the blue line, and threaten to score a goal a game on a breakaway. Ties are good; no three-point games. Instant replay is only allowed to show whether the puck completely crossed the line. All camera angles (overhead goal line, in net, external goal line are required for every game, preseason too.) New rule: If shooting the puck over the glass in the defensive zone is a delay of game -- Then so is this, which is a much more common delay of game... if a coach allows players to jump off the ice, or if a player jumps off the ice illegally after an icing in an attempt to stall for time, it's a 2-min delay of game penalty, to be served by a player on the ice of the other team's choosing. Diving should be called more often. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabres Fan in NS Posted January 5, 2017 Report Share Posted January 5, 2017 The Tank was/is still a lousy strategy. Jack is not, will not be generational. And Sam will be fine as long as we accept that a Patrick Sharp level forward is fine. You complete me. Especially on point #1. Eh, I'll give you one of those Point #1, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted January 5, 2017 Report Share Posted January 5, 2017 You complete me. Especially on point #1. Point #1, right? #2 actually And home whites I'm okay but not thrilled about. As long as we return to our originals idgaf when we wear them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted January 5, 2017 Report Share Posted January 5, 2017 Not sure about unpopular. I've never heard anyone else express this opinion, but I've always had this stored away as a pet idea. Hockey teams should practice in the evening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted January 5, 2017 Report Share Posted January 5, 2017 Even if you would, why would the Leafs do that??? They wouldn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted January 5, 2017 Report Share Posted January 5, 2017 I think the puck should be square and have blades embedded in its edges. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampD Posted January 5, 2017 Report Share Posted January 5, 2017 The value of +/- as a stat, the value of hits, the value of a defenseman who can't get out of his own zone effectively, the overratedness of faceoffs over the course of a season, the general ineffectiveness of a dump and chase, when to pull the goalie, and more. Not much earth shattering there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted January 5, 2017 Report Share Posted January 5, 2017 (edited) Not much earth shattering there. Really? Because each of those points has generated quite the lively debate here in the past, and at least a few of them are still contested. Edited January 5, 2017 by TrueBlueGED Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampD Posted January 5, 2017 Report Share Posted January 5, 2017 Really? Because each of those points has generated quite the lively debate here in the past, and at least a few of them are still contested. That's not saying much. Have you seen the debate generated by a guy getting mad at losing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppy22 Posted January 5, 2017 Report Share Posted January 5, 2017 NHL badly needs a 3-2-1 point system Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampD Posted January 5, 2017 Report Share Posted January 5, 2017 I absolutely hate the idea of a 3-2-1 point system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woods-racer Posted January 5, 2017 Report Share Posted January 5, 2017 I love Rob Ray. Brad May is mey. I liked to see NHL games played on the larger international rinks. Goalie pads/equipment size should be reduced to be as small as possible while still having the same protective qualities. Intentionally going down on a knee or laying out on the ice to block a shot should be a penalty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted January 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2017 Players should be forced to wear a full cage, not just the visor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted January 5, 2017 Report Share Posted January 5, 2017 Players should be forced to go helmetless and, wherever possible, sport Jerry Korab facial hair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted January 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2017 I can get on board with that as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted January 5, 2017 Report Share Posted January 5, 2017 I absolutely hate the idea of a 3-2-1 point system. 3-1-0 on the other hand... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi2000 Posted January 5, 2017 Report Share Posted January 5, 2017 Players should be forced to wear a full cage, not just the visor. Not sure if you're being serious but wearing full face protection does create a warrior mentality... you can go into the dirty areas with much more reckless abandon... hands, elbows, sticks flailing in the air. There have discussions about eliminating full face protection in NCAA hockey for this reason since studies show that former NCAA players commit many more high stick infractions than those who come from the CHL or European leagues. I absolutely hate the idea of a 3-2-1 point system. same. Eliminate the shootout but extend 3-on-3 or go 2-on-2 for another 5min... winner gets 2 points, loser 0 points. 1 point if it ends in a tie. Not sure about unpopular. I've never heard anyone else express this opinion, but I've always had this stored away as a pet idea. Hockey teams should practice in the evening. huh? and when would they play? Agreed with very thing you said True, besides your 3 line garbage :D Pi, awesome list. But, +/- though... +/- is just as valuable a statistic as any of the modern analytical stats CF%, PDO, possession numbers... are all impacted by who you're on the ice with and who you're playing against, as is +/-, as is the score... I would even argue that possession numbers are less representative of a players ability than +/-. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted January 5, 2017 Report Share Posted January 5, 2017 I don't think raw +/- is useless, just flawed. It's not good at comparing players across the league because of all the variables in line mates, opponents and situations, It doesn't tell you how good a player is, but it can give you some indication of how effective a player has been in the role his coach has given him. Pretty much exactly what Corsi does, except Corsi uses shots by team to measure that effectiveness and +\- uses goals. As far as I can see, Corsi has the same flaws, it just attempts to take the "lucky bounce" factor out of the equation. But it has a similar flaw because it fails to take into account the effectiveness of those shots. I'm sure Blue, or Wildcard, or someone can explain what I'm missing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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