Thorny Posted June 16, 2017 Report Share Posted June 16, 2017 BPA ? Hello Owen Tippett! Great, then we can trade him in 3 years (IF he pans out) for a defensive prospect that might be able to contribute a few years after that. Also, Tippett can't pass the puck, or play defence. Hard pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted June 16, 2017 Report Share Posted June 16, 2017 Any good overagers in this draft Rakish? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rakish Posted June 16, 2017 Report Share Posted June 16, 2017 Dude... if you aren't reading my stuff, then no one is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted June 16, 2017 Report Share Posted June 16, 2017 Dude... if you aren't reading my stuff, then no one is There is one guy there lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted June 16, 2017 Report Share Posted June 16, 2017 Denis Smirnov. Looks interesting. Jbot said drafting for position is difficult. That doesn't mean it's not a factor in the creation of his list. Even if it isn't a high priority, strict adherence to BPA in the internal list will lead to failure because the difference between players ranking a minuscule and if you continually draft forwards, you end up with little else (see TM). Remember with prospects, developing D are worth more then developing forwards and goaltenders. I would much rather overload my system with D because they are great currency. Look at the recent Seth Jones trade, the Sergachev trade yesterday and the teams lining up to get Vatanen and Brodin and DeHaan etc.... Sadly, TM decided all we needed was RW's . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted June 16, 2017 Report Share Posted June 16, 2017 I would put in a caveat and say developing D are more valuable than wingers. Centers are still highly valuable on all teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rakish Posted June 16, 2017 Report Share Posted June 16, 2017 There is one guy there lol You want coherent and understandable too? 1. Smirnov 2. BRINSON PASICHNUK 3. IGOR SHVYRYOV 4. Palmu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rakish Posted June 16, 2017 Report Share Posted June 16, 2017 The other ones I like are (more or less in value order): KRISTAPS ZILE DYLAN COGHLANANDREI ALTYBARMAKYANARTYOM MANUKYAN ROMAN IVASHOV JOHNNY KOVACEVIC WILL REILLY BRENNAN MENELL PAVEL YELSHANSKY MATTHEW BRASSARD Matt Timms KEVIN HANCOCK William Pethrus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two or less Posted June 17, 2017 Report Share Posted June 17, 2017 Denis Smirnov. Looks interesting. Jbot said drafting for position is difficult. That doesn't mean it's not a factor in the creation of his list. Even if it isn't a high priority, strict adherence to BPA in the internal list will lead to failure because the difference between players ranking a minuscule and if you continually draft forwards, you end up with little else (see TM). Remember with prospects, developing D are worth more then developing forwards and goaltenders. I would much rather overload my system with D because they are great currency. Look at the recent Seth Jones trade, the Sergachev trade yesterday and the teams lining up to get Vatanen and Brodin and DeHaan etc.... Sadly, TM decided all we needed was RW's . Struggled vs. better competition, is small and i read one scout call him "chubby". Very skilled and smart player though, wouldnt be a bad 6th or 7th round pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted June 18, 2017 Report Share Posted June 18, 2017 https://www.nhl.com/news/atlantic-division-team-nhl-draft-needs/c-289967334?tid=277764372 According to NHL.com our greatest draft need is for a scoring D. Really? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanny Posted June 19, 2017 Report Share Posted June 19, 2017 Sabres Prospects draft preview: http://www.sabresprospects.com/2017/06/buffalo-sabres-2017-draft-preview.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted June 19, 2017 Report Share Posted June 19, 2017 I'm a complete homer and given our potential dearth of future goalie options, I wish they could find a way to add Oettinger. Unfortunately I think that would take a bit of maneuvering to happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Buffalo Posted June 20, 2017 Report Share Posted June 20, 2017 Interesting assessments of offensive players from Calgary's website https://www.nhl.com/flames/news/2017-draft-class---top-right-wingers/c-290010274 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottysabres Posted June 21, 2017 Report Share Posted June 21, 2017 Saw the article where Bots says he's had conversations about moving up, moving down and so on. Any chance we can move up enough to nab Maker? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted June 21, 2017 Report Share Posted June 21, 2017 Saw the article where Bots says he's had conversations about moving up, moving down and so on. Any chance we can move up enough to nab Maker? Sure, we could stay put and get Makar, move up, this draft is flluid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi2000 Posted June 21, 2017 Report Share Posted June 21, 2017 Sure, we could stay put and get Makar, move up, this draft is flluid All draughts are fluid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted June 21, 2017 Report Share Posted June 21, 2017 All draughts are fluid. draughts yes, drafts maybe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SabresBillsFan Posted June 21, 2017 Report Share Posted June 21, 2017 Buffalo should draft Tippett or Casey Mittlestadt. Plenty of opportunities to draft defenseman plus talent on offense can be used to acquire defense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted June 21, 2017 Report Share Posted June 21, 2017 Bob McKenzie on the radio in Vancouver today mentioned there's a strong sense the Avalanche are leaning Cale Makar at 4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusader1969 Posted June 21, 2017 Report Share Posted June 21, 2017 Bob McKenzie on the radio in Vancouver today mentioned there's a strong sense the Avalanche are leaning Cale Makar at 4. Craig Button had Liljegren mocked to Arizona at 7. Would you trade up to get him at 6? Dallas is open to trading the third pick. Would you pay a steep price to get in front of Colorado to get Makar or Heiskenen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted June 21, 2017 Report Share Posted June 21, 2017 Updated draft tiers 1- Patrick & Hischier - I expect Hischier goes no. 2- Vilardi, Heiskanen, Makar, Middlestadt, & Glass - don't expect any of these 5 to fall to us at 8 3- Tippett, Petterson, Necas & Liljegren - take Liljegren at 8 and be happy? 4- Tolvanen, Suzuki, & Andersson 5- Rasmussen, Vesalainen, Valimaki, Kostin and Brannstrom - anyone in tiers 4 & 5 could go anywhere from top 10 to 22 6- Foote, Yamamoto, Poehling - last 3 with near unanimous support 7- Hague, Radcliffe, Vaakanainen and Thomas - appeared on 75% of the rankings 15 rankings I reviewed 8- Roberson, Oettinger, Norris, Timmins, Jokiharju and Bowers - appeared on 50 to 75% of the rankings. 9- Comtois, Lind, Chytil, & Davidsson - one of these could easily slip to us early in the 2nd rd. 1/3 of the rankings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derrico Posted June 21, 2017 Report Share Posted June 21, 2017 The more I read the more I think all 3 d will be gone by 8. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted June 21, 2017 Report Share Posted June 21, 2017 Bob McKenzie on the radio in Vancouver today mentioned there's a strong sense the Avalanche are leaning Cale Makar at 4. If Heiskanen goes at #3, Makar #4 and Liljegren #5 that bumps players. Vegas I think goes for the best center left. That leaves Arizona who will be interesting to see and then us. We could get a really solid forward prospect at #8 Craig Button had Liljegren mocked to Arizona at 7. Would you trade up to get him at 6? Dallas is open to trading the third pick. Would you pay a steep price to get in front of Colorado to get Makar or Heiskenen? Not in this draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted June 21, 2017 Report Share Posted June 21, 2017 If all three are gone, we trade down to get Foote or Valimaki. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusader1969 Posted June 21, 2017 Report Share Posted June 21, 2017 Updated draft tiers 1- Patrick & Hischier - I expect Hischier goes no. 2- Vilardi, Heiskanen, Makar, Middlestadt, & Glass - don't expect any of these 5 to fall to us at 8 3- Tippett, Petterson, Necas & Liljegren - take Liljegren at 8 and be happy? 4- Tolvanen, Suzuki, & Andersson 5- Rasmussen, Vesalainen, Valimaki, Kostin and Brannstrom - anyone in tiers 4 & 5 could go anywhere from top 10 to 22 6- Foote, Yamamoto, Poehling - last 3 with near unanimous support 7- Hague, Radcliffe, Vaakanainen and Thomas - appeared on 75% of the rankings 15 rankings I reviewed 8- Roberson, Oettinger, Norris, Timmins, Jokiharju and Bowers - appeared on 50 to 75% of the rankings. 9- Comtois, Lind, Chytil, & Davidsson - one of these could easily slip to us early in the 2nd rd. 1/3 of the rankings. THAT looks pretty acCurate - I`d be tempted to put Heiskanen in the top tier. All signs for him going 3rd. Im in the Minority but I still take Tippett over Liljegren in this scenario. Liljegren seems like a real roll of the dice to me and the Sabres cant afford to miss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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