LGR4GM Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 the ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norcal Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 Bizarre Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabel79 Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 Chiarelli is like a virus moving from team to team and destroying them from within. Only logical explanation... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted June 29, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 Jake McCabe scored more NHL goals last year than Adam Larsson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 Huge trades like these are absolutely new thread worthy. Burying them in this monstrosity is a shame. I trust we'll get the relevant content merged herein. :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted June 29, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 Find this gif of 4 other NHL gm's when they heard the news of this trade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabresith Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 It just makes me glad to know we have GMTM, because we could have one of these other fools. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 Maybe this is why the Oilers never moved their core before. The return was never there; this was all other GMs were willing to pay. Also, to those who were arguing a first-pair D is worth more than an elite wing, you will never get better proof than this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 Maybe this is why the Oilers never moved their core before. The return was never there; this was all other GMs were willing to pay. I think the trade might seem less odious if the Oilers had found a better version of a 2/3 d-man. Larsson just seems so ... meh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted June 29, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 I think the trade might seem less odious if the Oilers had found a better version of a 2/3 d-man. Larsson just seems so ... meh. Jake McCabe outscored him in goals last season... JAKE f##king McCabe! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kas23 Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 Maybe this is why the Oilers never moved their core before. The return was never there; this was all other GMs were willing to pay. Also, to those who were arguing a first-pair D is worth more than an elite wing, you will never get better proof than this. Makes you wonder if we could've gotten him on the cheap though. Surely Pysyk for Hall was discussed, I hope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted June 29, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 Makes you wonder if we could've gotten him on the cheap though. Surely Pysyk for Hall was discussed, I hope. No. I don't believe this for a second. This was Chiarella targeting a young defenseman that he thought could be better and was worth Taylor Hall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 Maybe this is why the Oilers never moved their core before. The return was never there; this was all other GMs were willing to pay. Also, to those who were arguing a first-pair D is worth more than an elite wing, you will never get better proof than this. Interesting point about the Oiler core. They couldn't give Yakupov away and now Hall fetches little in return. Hmm. GO SABRES!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 Interesting point about the Oiler core. They couldn't give Yakupov away and now Hall fetches little in return. Hmm. GO SABRES!!! Whoa. HMMMM indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 Interesting point about the Oiler core. They couldn't give Yakupov away and now Hall fetches little in return. Hmm. GO SABRES!!! Which reinforces why I'd've preferred the Sabres draft a D-man @ 8. Elite ones ain't easy to get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 I have many thoughts on this trade, and didn't read where I assume everything got buried in the other thread, so I apologize for any repetition. 1) Poor McDavid. 2) On the one hand, I think this illustrates why Fowler and Shattenkirk didn't get moved (yet?). If it takes Taylor Hall to get Adam Larsson, then yea, we can all bury the "Girgensons + Ennis for Fowler" and related nonsense. 3) On the other hand, IT ONLY TOOK ADAM LARSSON TO GET TAYLOR HALL?!?!?!?! WHAT IN THE ACTUAL F?!?!?!?! The most reasonable conclusion I can draw from this is Pete Chiarelli likes Adam Larsson waaaaaaaaaay more than he should. It made sense to trade Hall in search of a #1 defenseman as he probably had the most trade value of their forwards...but not for Adam Larsson. 4) Emotion out of the way, should we really be so shocked that the guy who traded Tyler Seguin for enjoying life as a rich and famous athlete may actually be bad at his job? I hope it comes out that Chiarelli turned down Hall + Nurse or something similar for Subban, just so I can laugh some more. 5) Building off of #4, this is case in point about why "Why do you think you know better than GM ____?" is such a bad argument. Maybe this is why the Oilers never moved their core before.The return was never there; this was all other GMs were willing to pay.Also, to those who were arguing a first-pair D is worth more than an elite wing, you will never get better proof than this. I just don't believe this to be the case. I could see this as a trade return for Eberle, but Hall is a legit top-10 winger in the league. No way they couldn't have done better. Hell, it's all over the place that Anaheim is looking for a 1st line LW for Fowler. I think ti's clear that Chiarelli truly valued Larsson. It's baffling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 Okay, this is funny: Paul Bissonnette @BizNasty2point0 2h2 hours ago On the bright side there might be an Oilers fan that thinks they're getting Oliver Ekman-Larsson in that trade. Also funny: Matt Cane @Cane_Matt 2h2 hours ago Got to admire a GM like Chiarelli who sees his team lose (the draft lottery) and makes the moves to win (the draft lottery) immediately Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasmus_ Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 It's what they needed to do. The only way I'm sure Larsson was traded was for Hall. Eberle and RNH weren't going to cut it, though RNH is more a fit for what they need long term. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 I have many thoughts on this trade, and didn't read where I assume everything got buried in the other thread, so I apologize for any repetition. 1) Poor McDavid. 2) On the one hand, I think this illustrates why Fowler and Shattenkirk didn't get moved (yet?). If it takes Taylor Hall to get Adam Larsson, then yea, we can all bury the "Girgensons + Ennis for Fowler" and related nonsense. 3) On the other hand, IT ONLY TOOK ADAM LARSSON TO GET TAYLOR HALL?!?!?!?! WHAT IN THE ACTUAL F?!?!?!?! The most reasonable conclusion I can draw from this is Pete Chiarelli likes Adam Larsson waaaaaaaaaay more than he should. It made sense to trade Hall in search of a #1 defenseman as he probably had the most trade value of their forwards...but not for Adam Larsson. 4) Emotion out of the way, should we really be so shocked that the guy who traded Tyler Seguin for enjoying life as a rich and famous athlete may actually be bad at his job? I hope it comes out that Chiarelli turned down Hall + Nurse or something similar for Subban, just so I can laugh some more. 5) Building off of #4, this is case in point about why "Why do you think you know better than GM ____?" is such a bad argument. I just don't believe this to be the case. I could see this as a trade return for Eberle, but Hall is a legit top-10 winger in the league. No way they couldn't have done better. Hell, it's all over the place that Anaheim is looking for a 1st line LW for Fowler. I think ti's clear that Chiarelli truly valued Larsson. It's baffling. 1) 2) My first thought as well. That explains the Reinhart nonsense. It also makes the Kulikov deal look a lot better 3) I was worried when Chiarelli went to Edmonton. Now? Not so much :lol: 4) Makes you wonder what RNH and Eberle are going to go for 5) GM's are morons people too , I wanted Taylor Hall so bad. He was my dream, I would have given anything but our core 4 for him. And then NJ gets him for this ? And now he gets to go from an offensive dynamo to that shithole trap using team that is NJ? Queue the 'See, Hall can't play offense' garbage. First Saad and now Hall, I have to stop wanting players to come here. I'm sorry I didn't want Stamkos, because then we would have been guaranteed to get him Okay, this is funny: Paul Bissonnette @BizNasty2point0 2h2 hours ago On the bright side there might be an Oilers fan that thinks they're getting Oliver Ekman-Larsson in that trade. Also funny: Matt Cane @Cane_Matt 2h2 hours ago Got to admire a GM like Chiarelli who sees his team lose (the draft lottery) and makes the moves to win (the draft lottery) immediately That 2nd one is simply amazing It's what they needed to do. The only way I'm sure Larsson was traded was for Hall. Eberle and RNH weren't going to cut it, though RNH is more a fit for what they need long term. They needed to move him, but not for that garbage. Eberle and RNH alone for Larsson straight up would have been a good deal for NJ Nice article with stats on Larsson-Hall trade http://www.todaysslapshot.com/nhl-west/edmonton-oilers/chiarelli-misses-the-mark-once-again-with-taylor-hall-trade/ And here's the other thing about this trade, Chiarelli really couldn't get Weber or PK for Hall? 15 minutes after the deal was done the PK trade happened. Unreal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carmel Corn Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 They got their top 4 D-man, now onto getting Lucic (reunion with the GM). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huckleberry Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 the oilers board on HF is really going berserk :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudberry Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 If this was because of future salary cap couldn't Edmonton have gotten a couple of future draft picks or second liners thrown into the deal as well? I don't get this being a straight up trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 (edited) https://twitter.com/McJesus_97/status/748269774832963585 Even EA NHL 2016 thought this trade was a joke. Edited June 29, 2016 by PromoTheRobot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 I would have assumed there were some picks involved in this deal to even it out, but then again it is Edmonton. I hear there are police surrounding the Devils front office ready to charge them with rape and grand theft after what they just did.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted June 30, 2016 Report Share Posted June 30, 2016 Really, this is just the universe correcting itself for Puljujarvi falling in their lap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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