LGR4GM Posted July 21, 2017 Report Share Posted July 21, 2017 Do we only own our first next year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rakish Posted July 21, 2017 Report Share Posted July 21, 2017 wikipedia says that the only Buffalo pick that has moved is the 3rd to Minnesota for their 4th. So an extra 4th, no 3rd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnRobertEichel Posted July 22, 2017 Report Share Posted July 22, 2017 I absolutely hate analyses like that. I'll never understand the point of looking at something without factoring in trades and free agents. I know that's impossible to project, but it is a huge part of any team building process. Find me one team who hasn't added a single player from another NHL team over a 3 year period. Good luck with that search. I don't understand the logic behind putting something together based on a set of rules that immediately invalidate it. Analyses like this are useful in the sense that they provide a quick assessment of the current strengths and weaknesses of a franchise. No one seriously believes such a list will remain static for 3 years, that every player will develop as projected, that no trades will be made, that no new players will be drafted, or that free agency won't alter the position landscape. For those who aren't already very familiar with the Sabres organization, after this analysis it should now be apparent that the franchise is incredibly strong at center, lacking in RHD depth, missing elite talent at LHD, okay at goalie, and maybe a bit deficient at wing if a couple of the centers don't slide over there. I am a broken record here, but in my opinion, JBot's main objective and main difficulty now is to identify a top-50 NHL defenseman to pair with Risto in time for our EXPECTED deep playoff run in 3 years. He doesn't need to be a Norris Trophy winner; we just need to hang with offensive powerhouse teams like Toronto and Edmonton. And I'm not confident that this player is currently on the roster or that he can easily be obtained through free agency or future draft picks. Trades may be our best bet. Fortunately for us, we see that we have a surplus of quality forwards to move. Seven of our forwards (Eichel, Reinhart, O'Reilly, Kane, Okposo, Nylander, Mittelstadt) have top-line (top-100 NHL forward) projections. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Buffalo Posted July 22, 2017 Report Share Posted July 22, 2017 Analyses like this are useful in the sense that they provide a quick assessment of the current strengths and weaknesses of a franchise. No one seriously believes such a list will remain static for 3 years, that every player will develop as projected, that no trades will be made, that no new players will be drafted, or that free agency won't alter the position landscape. For those who aren't already very familiar with the Sabres organization, after this analysis it should now be apparent that the franchise is incredibly strong at center, lacking in RHD depth, missing elite talent at LHD, okay at goalie, and maybe a bit deficient at wing if a couple of the centers don't slide over there. I am a broken record here, but in my opinion, JBot's main objective and main difficulty now is to identify a top-50 NHL defenseman to pair with Risto in time for our EXPECTED deep playoff run in 3 years. He doesn't need to be a Norris Trophy winner; we just need to hang with offensive powerhouse teams like Toronto and Edmonton. And I'm not confident that this player is currently on the roster or that he can easily be obtained through free agency or future draft picks. Trades may be our best bet. Fortunately for us, we see that we have a surplus of quality forwards to move. Seven of our forwards (Eichel, Reinhart, O'Reilly, Kane, Okposo, Nylander, Mittelstadt) have top-line (top-100 NHL forward) projections. So basically you are saying Sabres are going Edmonton's previous route or suckitude... heavy at forward till Sabres hit the right combo, then trade a few of those assets to shore up the D.... sounds about right... hopefully... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted July 22, 2017 Report Share Posted July 22, 2017 By high I meant with our first pick- likely around 31. Good call. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted July 22, 2017 Report Share Posted July 22, 2017 I'm taking my daughter back to college tomorrow. I'll won't be able to select until tomorrow night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted July 22, 2017 Report Share Posted July 22, 2017 ^Hope you don't mind me bringing this over to the thread I think you meant it for, dude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted July 22, 2017 Report Share Posted July 22, 2017 Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabres Fan in NS Posted July 22, 2017 Report Share Posted July 22, 2017 ^Hope you don't mind me bringing this over to the thread I think you meant it for, dude. Maybe he was planning to take a Sabre prospect with his next pick and he was skimming this thread as part of his due-diligence? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted July 22, 2017 Report Share Posted July 22, 2017 Maybe he was planning to take a Sabre prospect with his next pick and he was skimming this thread as part of his due-diligence? Mayhaps... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted July 25, 2017 Report Share Posted July 25, 2017 Nylander lookin' good https://twitter.com/sabresfanatics/status/889880937768656897 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derrico Posted July 26, 2017 Report Share Posted July 26, 2017 Nylander lookin' good https://twitter.com/sabresfanatics/status/889880937768656897 That guys shot and skill level is through the friggen roof. He will never be a guy grinding in the corners or stellar defensively but if he gets big enough to play strong on the puck look out. Riding shotgun with Eichel I could see those two putting up a ton of points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted July 26, 2017 Report Share Posted July 26, 2017 Nylander lookin' good https://twitter.com/sabresfanatics/status/889880937768656897 Is that really him? His legs are still pipe cleaners but dudes upper body is yoked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Buffalo Posted July 26, 2017 Report Share Posted July 26, 2017 (edited) Photoshop, looking at the shadows around his neck and left arm... dont match.. Can even see if you zoom in the smoothing job, not very good imo on the so called t-shirt shadow on left arm... Edited July 26, 2017 by North Buffalo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spndnchz Posted July 26, 2017 Report Share Posted July 26, 2017 Is that really him? His legs are still pipe cleaners but dudes upper body is yoked. That's him. Picture is from the Swedish Open tennis tournament. He was there with his brother and some friends. Some other pics of him look exactly the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted July 26, 2017 Report Share Posted July 26, 2017 Well, he sure looks substantial enough to play in the NHL. Nylander stepping up and developing into a productive top-6 winger in the next couple of years would certainly help rehabilitate XGMTM's legacy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted July 26, 2017 Report Share Posted July 26, 2017 William had the same thing happen when he began training with his dad like Alex did this summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted July 26, 2017 Report Share Posted July 26, 2017 Well, he sure looks substantial enough to play in the NHL. Nylander stepping up and developing into a productive top-6 winger in the next couple of years would certainly help rehabilitate XGMTM's legacy. GMTM's tenure here will be seen in a more favourable light the more time passes, I suspect. Inability to ice a competitive team, losing the locker room, standing by DDB, these things certainly hurt him in the moment and will remain to do so for those that remember, but if the Sabres have success going forward, it's going to be primarily with the core he assembled. He will be remembered as the guy who assembled the group of Eichel, Reinhart, O'Reilly, Nylander, and Guhle. If Kane and Lehner work out here long term? His legacy will be looked upon even more favourably by those that remember him as the one who acquired all those players. William had the same thing happen when he began training with his dad like Alex did this summer. So he's right on track, then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi2000 Posted July 26, 2017 Report Share Posted July 26, 2017 The whole size/strength thing is overrated IMO. Every prospect interviewed at dev camp spoke of getting bigger and stronger over the summer, when they should focus mostly on endurance and speed of movement. Strength will come naturally as they age. Getting too big too fast only slows you down and you lose some muscle memory and coordination in the process. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Buffalo Posted July 26, 2017 Report Share Posted July 26, 2017 Agreed speed is important, strength is important if that means some size ok but strength more important. Endurance comes from playing at speed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted September 5, 2017 Report Share Posted September 5, 2017 So one of our slowest-cooking (and likely wasted) high picks since Artem Kriukov is at least two more years from turning pro. http://www.gophersports.com/sports/m-hockey/spec-rel/090517aaa.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted September 6, 2017 Report Share Posted September 6, 2017 So one of our slowest-cooking (and likely wasted) high picks since Artem Kriukov is at least two more years from turning pro. http://www.gophersports.com/sports/m-hockey/spec-rel/090517aaa.html Doubt he is even given a contract Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted September 6, 2017 Report Share Posted September 6, 2017 Doubt he is even given a contract He's done nothing to deserve one. Hated that pick from the day we made it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hsif Posted September 6, 2017 Report Share Posted September 6, 2017 https://www.thebuffalostar.com/2017/09/prospects-challenge-preview/ https://nhl.bamcontent.com/images/assets/binary/290859106/binary-file/file.pdf These games are a fun event, and the Harbor Center provides a "up close" environment. I'll be attending the Saturday evening game with Boston. Let's go Buffalo............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted September 6, 2017 Report Share Posted September 6, 2017 He's done nothing to deserve one. Hated that pick from the day we made it. Me also, but looking at that 2nd rd, no one has really stood out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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