LGR4GM Posted June 16, 2016 Report Share Posted June 16, 2016 Ouch. That's gotta hurt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted June 16, 2016 Report Share Posted June 16, 2016 His legacy is having failed to plant Brett Hull on his arse early in the morning (mourning) of June 20, 1999. Fair deuce. --- Can't hear the name "Umberger" without thinking of that hit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted June 16, 2016 Report Share Posted June 16, 2016 UMBERGER! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted June 16, 2016 Report Share Posted June 16, 2016 HIT. Also, obviously, HAMBURGER. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted June 16, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2016 Alex Goligoski's rights traded to Arizona Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted June 16, 2016 Report Share Posted June 16, 2016 Alex Goligoski's rights traded to Arizona Son of a... Hopefully he pulls an Ehrhoff and doesn't sign. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted June 16, 2016 Report Share Posted June 16, 2016 Son of a... Hopefully he pulls an Ehrhoff and doesn't sign. Or, better, he does sign & the Sabres end up w/ their choice of any D-man in this year's draft. ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted June 16, 2016 Report Share Posted June 16, 2016 Or, better, he does sign & the Sabres end up w/ their choice of any D-man in this year's draft. ;) That may very well be for the best long term. Just doesn't help us fill our gaping top-4 hole :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted June 16, 2016 Report Share Posted June 16, 2016 That may very well be for the best long term. Just doesn't help us fill our gaping top-4 hole :( I'm expecting that answer comes in the form of a trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted June 16, 2016 Report Share Posted June 16, 2016 (edited) Alex Goligoski's rights traded to ArizonaAhh fiddle-sticks. That may very well be for the best long term. Just doesn't help us fill our gaping top-4 hole :(Indeed. I said earlier I was worried about our ability to get one of the two big UFA D, Goligoski and Yandle. Goligoski most likely signing in Arizona now. That leaves Yandle. It's a crap shoot. I get that it may help us get a D of our choice in the draft, but like you said, we need to address the D for now, as well. I'm expecting that answer comes in the form of a trade.I'm really hoping this is the case now. Unless we are able to get Yandle, which would also be acceptable. Failing those options, there's always Colaiacovo :/ Edited June 16, 2016 by Thorny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted June 16, 2016 Report Share Posted June 16, 2016 Alex Goligoski's rights traded to Arizona me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted June 16, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2016 Or, better, he does sign & the Sabres end up w/ their choice of any D-man in this year's draft. ;) I don't think you're changing draft plans because you acquired the rights to Alex Goligoski. Especially considering, if signed, Goligoski will be just the third NHL dman under contract by Arizona. They have immediate and long-term needs there. Will be interesting to see if he's willing to sign in Arizona. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kas23 Posted June 16, 2016 Report Share Posted June 16, 2016 I'm sure it's in the forebrain of GMTM, but I would be looking to sign an expansion draft decoy, someone LV wouldn't be able to look past. I don't like the prospect of losing Ennis, Bogo, or Pysyk for nothing. But, I like the idea of losing a player GMTM wouldn't want playing for his team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted June 16, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2016 I think there's a lot of overthinking going on about the expansion draft. Teams will mainly need to ensure they can fulfill the requirements which will likely mean we see two-year deals for veterans that would normally get one-year deals (Cam Ward) but there won't be a need for a "decoy" in Buffalo. Especially because there's just no way to know that it would be a worthwhile effort. The new team will be taking one player from each team but that doesn't mean they'll be taking the best player left available from each team. They've got to build a team and fulfill salary, contract and positional requirements. The Sabres best bet is to get as many good players as they can that fill needs and their plan which will require moving out certain players in deals... If they do this they will have plenty of protection slots to maintain any core they desire and won't be in danger of losing any major difference makers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted June 16, 2016 Report Share Posted June 16, 2016 I think there's a lot of overthinking going on about the expansion draft. Teams will mainly need to ensure they can fulfill the requirements which will likely mean we see two-year deals for veterans that would normally get one-year deals (Cam Ward) but there won't be a need for a "decoy" in Buffalo. Especially because there's just no way to know that it would be a worthwhile effort. The new team will be taking one player from each team but that doesn't mean they'll be taking the best player left available from each team. They've got to build a team and fulfill salary, contract and positional requirements. The Sabres best bet is to get as many good players as they can that fill needs and their plan which will require moving out certain players in deals... If they do this they will have plenty of protection slots to maintain any core they desire and won't be in danger of losing any major difference makers. But what if the Sabres forget to protect Ryan O'Reilly, and Vegas notices and he's claimed?? It could happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted June 16, 2016 Report Share Posted June 16, 2016 I don't think you're changing draft plans because you acquired the rights to Alex Goligoski. Especially considering, if signed, Goligoski will be just the third NHL dman under contract by Arizona. They have immediate and long-term needs there. Will be interesting to see if he's willing to sign in Arizona. Probably not, but it's a nice thought. Would be sweet if it worked that way. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kas23 Posted June 16, 2016 Report Share Posted June 16, 2016 I think there's a lot of overthinking going on about the expansion draft. Teams will mainly need to ensure they can fulfill the requirements which will likely mean we see two-year deals for veterans that would normally get one-year deals (Cam Ward) but there won't be a need for a "decoy" in Buffalo. Especially because there's just no way to know that it would be a worthwhile effort. The new team will be taking one player from each team but that doesn't mean they'll be taking the best player left available from each team. They've got to build a team and fulfill salary, contract and positional requirements. The Sabres best bet is to get as many good players as they can that fill needs and their plan which will require moving out certain players in deals... If they do this they will have plenty of protection slots to maintain any core they desire and won't be in danger of losing any major difference makers. I'm unsure if Vegas will be trying to build a "team" the same way we would look at building a team. They need bodies to field a product and a draft is the fastest way of doing this. Of course, they're not going to draft just wingers, but I would suspect they're going to take the best players they have a chance to get and then they'll think about forming the "team identity" in subsequent years. Sort of like our tank years, but just without the worst player available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi2000 Posted June 16, 2016 Report Share Posted June 16, 2016 Alex Goligoski's rights traded to Arizona ...for a fifth-round pick? That's it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted June 16, 2016 Report Share Posted June 16, 2016 ...for a fifth-round pick? That's it? It's his rights. Which means they can talk to him, before they supposedly couldn't. But what if the Sabres forget to protect Ryan O'Reilly, and Vegas notices and he's claimed?? It could happen. /Sarcasm? :Unsure: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted June 16, 2016 Report Share Posted June 16, 2016 It's his rights. Which means they can talk to him, before they supposedly couldn't. /Sarcasm? :Unsure: Hahahaha. Of course. Although............ .... ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi2000 Posted June 16, 2016 Report Share Posted June 16, 2016 It's his rights. Which means they can talk to him, before they supposedly couldn't. But why even trade anything for him if you have no idea if he's willing to sign. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted June 16, 2016 Report Share Posted June 16, 2016 But why even trade anything for him if you have no idea if he's willing to sign. Ask Garth Snow & DR. They both traded for Ehrhoff's rights. Other GM's have made similar moves as well. These guys typically expect they'll give close enough to the max or what the player wants (& more than the player's last team wanted to offer) that they can get the guy signed before FA opens. The other GM tells them what the guy was asking for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sodbuster Posted June 16, 2016 Report Share Posted June 16, 2016 But what if the Sabres forget to protect Ryan O'Reilly, and Vegas notices and he's claimed?? It could happen.Let's hope they make sure the fax machine is working. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted June 17, 2016 Report Share Posted June 17, 2016 ...for a fifth-round pick? That's it?Yeah, how did we not jump on that train? We have 4 3rds ffsBut why even trade anything for him if you have no idea if he's willing to sign.Got us Ehrhoff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted June 17, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2016 Cam Ward will make $3.5 mill this year and $3.1 mill next... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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