clintwestwood Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 I thought that was great, are you paying me back for the Montreal GDT complement??? I'm torn on the Eichel on the shootout spot. I agree he's our most skilled player and should be on the first threesome but I also like the idea of Bylsma making him earn the spot and not just giving it to him. Now it may annoy the fan base but I think in the long run it'll make Jack a much better player. Let's face it that point we may or may not have lost isn't as important as making him the best player he can be. Oh and before I forget, SiZzlEmeIsTEr that was hilarious. If DB thinks a player as talented as Jack needs to earn a spot as trivial as a shoot out spot, there are even bigger problems with his thought process than I already thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huckleberry Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 Watch Matthews, Laine, and Puljujarvi highlights. Hey easy! I'm showing myself out already! Would love to get one of those, but would like us not to end bottom 5 this year though. Getting sick of all the sabres are tanking again comments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clintwestwood Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 Watch Matthews, Laine, and Puljujarvi highlights. Hey easy! I'm showing myself out already! Throw Chychrun in there and that sounds like a plan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsb Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 ;) I just have a really, really hard time believing Gionta and Kane are better in practice at the shootout than Jack I feel like I'm falling into the sticking up for Bylsma trap, it may have been nothing more or less than a reward for being the best line on the team since the All-Star break. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Crotch Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 (edited) Took 3 of 4 points over the last two games and the Sabres are still only 2 points above dead last in the NHL standings. Edited February 5, 2016 by Potato Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 (edited) This is baloney. Jack Eichel is an elite talent. You're saying the coach wants to shield him from pressure, in a season that's a wash at this point? Jack Eichel should have been the first player off the bench. At home, vs. Boston? Are you shitting me?Please point to where I agree with Bylsma. That's right, you can't. I also said that Bylsma may be basing his decision on what he observes in practice. In the meantime,please acquaint yourself with the term "devil's advocate" and get the phuck out of my face, GO SABRES!!! Edited February 5, 2016 by K-9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi2000 Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 Even though Eichel's first ever shootout attempt in the NHL wasn't a great one, I don't think that matters. He has the skill where, with a bit of practice, he's going to be good at it. He needs to be shooting. And Sam, he's too smart to not be good at it. We have seen him excel in so many areas, whatever he has been asked to do. Who would have predicted he'd be the best on our team at net front presence? He's just so hockey smart he can pick up anything it seems. I'll also go on record saying that once Reinhart gets some practice at it, he will become our best shootout player. They're very young, consistently missing in shootouts can damage their confidence especially when there's so much pressure on them to perform. If I'm DB and those two are quietly sitting on the bench before the shootout I don't put them in. If they're begging to go in, then yeah put them in... but for now let the veterans take the fall. But seriously, Gionta over Eichel? That's just dumb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huckleberry Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 He should give Moulson a shot at the shoutout, can't really hurt anymore and he might get some of his confidence back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 Took 3 of 4 points over the last two games and the Sabres are still only 2 points above dead last in the NHL standings. There aren't any true tankers this year, so that bottom 10 is fairly condensed. I'm not worried about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norcal Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 It seems like picking the 3 players who played the best that particular game would be a good way to decide who starts a shootout but Kane should be way down the list. In the skills competition they showed during intermission between Kane and Gionta, Kane skated in and took the same shot 3 times, all saves. He has no business being first 3 over the boards in a game situation, ever. Free Eichel and Reinhart and give Zemgus a chance too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTS Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 I'll try to post this while still laughing at the gifs above. There is a single explanation I have for that shootout selection. There is a belief in the front office that 1 point is better than 2 this season. The Sabres will be good, but not THAT good yet. I'm going back to laughing at the gifs. It makes me feel better. Also, Eichel is hanging onto the past. How many times is he going to attempt the wrap around attempt he had success with in Ottawa? I think I saw it twice last night and at least once in Montreal. It's like.. ooo, this worked once. Meh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattPie Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 I'll try to post this while still laughing at the gifs above. There is a single explanation I have for that shootout selection. There is a belief in the front office that 1 point is better than 2 this season. The Sabres will be good, but not THAT good yet. I'm going back to laughing at the gifs. It makes me feel better. Also, Eichel is hanging onto the past. How many times is he going to attempt the wrap around attempt he had success with in Ottawa? I think I saw it twice last night and at least once in Montreal. It's like.. ooo, this worked once. Meh Enough times that the D and GT think he's going to, opening up something else. I think you'll start to see him stop and tuck the puck back into the short side from below the goal line, or skate out from behind the net and pass to the far post or slot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted February 5, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 (edited) He had a lot of success in the NCAA and Worlds with the wrap around. His long stick and crazy lower body strength are perfect for it Edited February 5, 2016 by WildCard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 I'll try to post this while still laughing at the gifs above. There is a single explanation I have for that shootout selection. There is a belief in the front office that 1 point is better than 2 this season. The Sabres will be good, but not THAT good yet. I'm going back to laughing at the gifs. It makes me feel better. Also, Eichel is hanging onto the past. How many times is he going to attempt the wrap around attempt he had success with in Ottawa? I think I saw it twice last night and at least once in Montreal. It's like.. ooo, this worked once. Meh So DDB is trying to tank via his shootout selections? I'll say NFW on that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi2000 Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 It seems like picking the 3 players who played the best that particular game would be a good way to decide who starts a shootout but Kane should be way down the list. In the skills competition they showed during intermission between Kane and Gionta, Kane skated in and took the same shot 3 times, all saves. He has no business being first 3 over the boards in a game situation, ever. Free Eichel and Reinhart and give Zemgus a chance too. you think he was trying? its a joke to those guys, they're just messing aournd. Also, Eichel is hanging onto the past. How many times is he going to attempt the wrap around attempt he had success with in Ottawa? I think I saw it twice last night and at least once in Montreal. It's like.. ooo, this worked once. Meh We finally have an elite talent who pulls off a sick wrap-around goal, then he tries it a couple more times and you're all over him? You should be ashamed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 We finally have an elite talent who pulls off a sick wrap-around goal, then he tries it a couple more times and you're all over him? You should be ashamed. Whoa there big fella. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTS Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 So DDB is trying to tank via his shootout selections? I'll say NFW on that. I almost want to give him Kane because the guy has been flying. But Gio? I don't know. I guess we'll have to go with DDB being incompetent in some way. Hell, he would have been better served putting Moulson out there as some coaches will do just to give the guy a chance to put the puck in the net for once. He had a lot of success in the NCAA and Worlds with the wrap around. His long stick and crazy lower body strength are perfect for it They are... but it was expected each time by the defenders. Leading to turnovers. Enough times that the D and GT think he's going to, opening up something else. I think you'll start to see him stop and tuck the puck back into the short side from below the goal line, or skate out from behind the net and pass to the far post or slot. Hopefully so. But I'm not a fan of fail at it 3 times just to try and bait some other team in the 4th time. Given the defenders were already looking for him to wrap it when he went behind his best course of action would have been to attempt that move in one of the past 3 attempts. Creativity isn't flowing as I would hope yet. He persists in his patterns, like skating down the wall and trying that weak back pass off the boards which also is starting to result in turnovers. you think he was trying? its a joke to those guys, they're just messing aournd. We finally have an elite talent who pulls off a sick wrap-around goal, then he tries it a couple more times and you're all over him? You should be ashamed. I'm not ashamed for being critical with reason. Eichel is not infallible. I can point out numerous repetitive mistakes (as I did above with the board drop pass) that players are picking up on. Eichel is incredibly talented but I can see points where he appears almost arrogant in the way he plays. He SHOULD expect that he can make those plays, he SHOULD also expect that the players on the ice will catch on when he tries the same thing too often. I'm as jacked as anyone when he does something new. When he comes into the zone and makes a perfect backhand flip pass to a teammate I'm legitimately stoked that he's on the Sabres. At the same time, when he falls into the trap of making the same moves and it results in turnovers I hope for more. I am sure the coaches spoke to him on the one goal. He was out of position the entire time in his defensive zone. He floated too high to the point and when he realized it he turned and ended up right on top of Johnson. So close that his stick tangled with Johnson and he could not get it over to try and deflect the puck from the shooter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 There is a single explanation I have for that shootout selection. There is a belief in the front office that 1 point is better than 2 this season. The Sabres will be good, but not THAT good yet. :wub: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 Do you guys recall when Eichel got the puck on the left wing in the offensive zone, and walked his way around a guy, slashed through the slot diagonally and ripped a shot wide? The crowd was buzzing while he did it, and I stood out of my chair at home. We have a guy that makes us do that every game, even if he doesn't find the scoreboard. Pretty sweet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DR HOLLIDAY Posted February 6, 2016 Report Share Posted February 6, 2016 I'll try to post this while still laughing at the gifs above. There is a single explanation I have for that shootout selection. There is a belief in the front office that 1 point is better than 2 this season. The Sabres will be good, but not THAT good yet. I'm going back to laughing at the gifs. It makes me feel better. Also, Eichel is hanging onto the past. How many times is he going to attempt the wrap around attempt he had success with in Ottawa? I think I saw it twice last night and at least once in Montreal. It's like.. ooo, this worked once. Meh You must not have been paying to much attention, because he also tried a pass from the same move, building on the move Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kruppstahl Posted February 6, 2016 Report Share Posted February 6, 2016 IIRC it was GODD that said DB was the coach we needed now. But not the coach of the future. He has instilled a structured hockey system. The 4-3 in overtime was structured but also pathetic. This team needed the building blocks of a structured system an DB was the best available for the job. But a half season in we see the Dan may be able to disco, but he just can't in game tango. He's horrible. I'll repeat: when this team arrives, Bylsma won't be the coach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted February 6, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2016 I really don't think he's horrible. I bet you you can find bitching about Babcock on Toronto boards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted February 6, 2016 Report Share Posted February 6, 2016 I really don't think he's horrible. I bet you you can find bitching about Babcock on Toronto boards I'm sure but I haven't seen player usage this questionable in 30 years of watching the Sabres. I just don't have a clue to the reasoning for his decisions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted February 6, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2016 I'm sure but I haven't seen player usage this questionable in 30 years of watching the Sabres. I just don't have a clue to the reasoning for his decisions.Even Nolan and RR? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted February 6, 2016 Report Share Posted February 6, 2016 Even Nolan and RR? Their rosters were putrid. Almost entirely 4th liners and AHL players Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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