WildCard Posted December 15, 2015 Report Share Posted December 15, 2015 Dreger: Intrigued by the Stamkos buzz. My sense...if he leaves TB it won't be about $ and his top priority will be to go to a team ready to win. The Leafs are at least 2-3 years away from win now mode. Doesn't mean I'm counting them out though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted December 16, 2015 Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 Well, using the #3 overall pick on a guy is a big investment for a franchise, IMHO. You don't just fire-sale that investment after 2.25 seasons. He's a sunk cost. Evaluate and choose based on what's best for the team, not on what you spent for him almost 3 seasons ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted December 16, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 Likely premature but there's some speculation about why Hertl was scratched in San Jose tonight... One reporter: Question whether there's a Hertl trade increases the longer #SJSharks take to explain his late scratch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted December 16, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 Hertl out with LBI but some still wondering why they wouldn't tell them that earlier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted December 16, 2015 Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 The Leafs are at least 2-3 years away from win now mode. Doesn't mean I'm counting them out though I can't help but think of a certain coach who everyone thought wanted to win right away but narrowed his choices down to $$$$ in either Buffali or Toronto. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewookie1 Posted December 16, 2015 Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 I think Stamkos goes elsewhere for a shorter term like 4 years, then heads to Toronto if they're good. Additionally the Leafs should be fined for collusion after that radio station debacle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted December 16, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 I think Stamkos goes elsewhere for a shorter term like 4 years, then heads to Toronto if they're good. Additionally the Leafs should be fined for collusion after that radio station debacle. I'm not sure taking a shorter deal is worth it in the NHL when you've already established yourself as an elite player. Also, why would a radio station get the team fined? Sure, TSN is a minority owner of the Leafs but this is just an affiliate station and not the company itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted December 16, 2015 Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 The Leafs are at least 2-3 years away from win now mode. Doesn't mean I'm counting them out though If it is about cups (this year notwithstanding), not many teams closer than Tampa. It would be very interesting to see what Yzerman could get if he auctioned him off. I mean in addition to Marner/Nylander and this year's first. The closest similar auction I can recall recently is O'Reilly, but there must be better comparisons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewookie1 Posted December 16, 2015 Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 I'm not sure taking a shorter deal is worth it in the NHL when you've already established yourself as an elite player. Also, why would a radio station get the team fined? Sure, TSN is a minority owner of the Leafs but this is just an affiliate station and not the company itself. Ok, I'd give them a warning though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derrico Posted December 16, 2015 Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 My guess right now is Stamkos is as good as a leaf but who knows. Bob McKenzie said yesterday that the leafs would be a favorite but if he was to bet if Stamkos does not resign in Tampa and it's between Toronto or the rest of the field, he would take the field. I think I would still take Toronto. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvelo Posted December 16, 2015 Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 I haven't noticed Moulson at all lately. I had to look at the boxscore to see if he played against NJ and DET. Maybe he needs to ride the bench. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted December 16, 2015 Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 FWIW @MikeStrawWrites 16m16 minutes ago Told the #Sabres have reached out to CAL about David Jones and AZ about Boedker. Nothing close/being negotiated, but feelers have been sent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted December 16, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 I don't believe a thing that guy says but for the sake of speculation: Boedker is a 25-year-old left winger who has 11-11-22 through 30 games. UFA at the end of this season. Jones is a 31-year-old right winger who has 7-4-11 and is a UFA at the end of this season. Jones would likely be pretty cheap. Good depth guy. Boedker would be more expensive but considering how much trouble they've had getting contract talks with him going in the right direction he could probably be had. I would trade Ennis for him straight up if I felt we could get a contract signed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted December 16, 2015 Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 Acquiring Boedker would be awesome. I, too, am willing to include Ennis in that deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted December 16, 2015 Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 You guys are that high on him, or that low on Ennis? Quickly looking at his point production, he doesn't seem to do anything amazing, at least less than Ennis in the goals department Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted December 16, 2015 Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 I wonder how long Ennis's injury has been bothering him and if this affected his production thus far Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom webster Posted December 17, 2015 Report Share Posted December 17, 2015 I wonder how long Ennis's injury has been bothering him and if this affected his production thus far According to Ennis, he got hurt in his last game played. Nice thought, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted December 17, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 17, 2015 Torts benched Ryan Johansen and will make him a healthy scratch tonight. I get wanting effort from guys but Torts is so out of touch here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted December 17, 2015 Report Share Posted December 17, 2015 Torts benched Ryan Johansen and will make him a healthy scratch tonight. I get wanting effort from guys but Torts is so out of touch here. They're going to trade Johansen because of Torts and then fire Torts within a season or two, and will be set back years because of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted December 17, 2015 Report Share Posted December 17, 2015 They're going to trade Johansen because of Torts and then fire Torts within a season or two, and will be set back years because of it. Back to the Columbus of old. I wonder where Johansen goes and what he fetches Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted December 17, 2015 Report Share Posted December 17, 2015 Torts gonna Torts. Without knowing a single thing about his time with his new club, other than this, I will conclude that his was among the worst hires in recent memory. Check out this bit from a recent write-up. So a team is generating chances, but not finishing, and the coach's reaction is to punish someone rather than chalk it up to puck luck and encourage the guys to keep going? That's Master Idiot level stuff. Tortorella didn’t give a reason why Johansen saw the bench on Tuesday, but he was clearly frustrated with his team’s offensive effort against Dallas. “We had probably over 20 scoring chances in that game. But we don’t score,” he said. “We had chances. That was our whole mindset tonight: To have some sort of arrogance to our game,” he continued. “When I first came here, our first five, six, seven games, our pinching was there, our forechecking was there, our arrogance was there.” http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/ryan-johansen-benched-by-john-tortorella-in-blue-jackets--loss-061424301.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thwomp! Posted December 17, 2015 Report Share Posted December 17, 2015 (edited) Back to the Columbus of old. I wonder where Johansen goes and what he fetches And this, among other reasons, is why this city doesn't even care that the Blue Jackets exist. They have always been a poorly run franchise that would likely not exist in Columbus under a free-market, sink or swim scenario. Edited December 17, 2015 by EastsideOasis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted December 17, 2015 Report Share Posted December 17, 2015 Torts giving a lecture on arrogance? My word... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted December 17, 2015 Report Share Posted December 17, 2015 Torts giving a lecture on arrogance? My word... I think he was saying he wanted it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted December 17, 2015 Report Share Posted December 17, 2015 I think he was saying he wanted it. He sure was. Man, this semester can't end soon enough :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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