inkman Posted May 26, 2016 Report Share Posted May 26, 2016 NHL drafts in BUF don't happen all that often Neither does Kate Upton sitting on my face Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubkev Posted May 26, 2016 Report Share Posted May 26, 2016 I'm with ink on this one... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted May 26, 2016 Report Share Posted May 26, 2016 I'm with ink on this one... I think he'd prefer it to be just him and Kate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerme1 Posted May 26, 2016 Report Share Posted May 26, 2016 Neither does Kate Upton sitting on my face Are you still not willing to pay? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattPie Posted May 26, 2016 Report Share Posted May 26, 2016 I'm with ink on this one... I think he'd prefer it to be just him and Kate. Finely done, this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted May 26, 2016 Report Share Posted May 26, 2016 Are you still not willing to pay? :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewookie1 Posted May 26, 2016 Report Share Posted May 26, 2016 Supposedly some think Logan Brown will be Vancouver's pick now that they traded for Gudbranson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted May 26, 2016 Report Share Posted May 26, 2016 (edited) All I want is Clayton Keller And Kate Upton to sit on my face. Edited May 26, 2016 by WildCard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted May 26, 2016 Report Share Posted May 26, 2016 (edited) I want Raquel Welch dropped on top of me. Edited May 26, 2016 by That Aud Smell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted May 26, 2016 Report Share Posted May 26, 2016 Supposedly some think Logan Brown will be Vancouver's pick now that they traded for Gudbranson With Benning in charge, anything is possible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted May 26, 2016 Report Share Posted May 26, 2016 With Benning in charge, anything is possible I can easily see Benning becoming obsessed with Brown's size. Please do. Makes #8 more valuable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derrico Posted May 26, 2016 Report Share Posted May 26, 2016 Neither does Kate Upton sitting on my face :w00t: Supposedly some think Logan Brown will be Vancouver's pick now that they traded for Gudbranson Please let this happen. Then we just need one of the D to get taken before us and we've got our choice between Keller and Nylander. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasmus_ Posted May 26, 2016 Report Share Posted May 26, 2016 Supposedly some think Logan Brown will be Vancouver's pick now that they traded for Gudbranson Wow, that would be a surge for Logan. Great size and use of his body and control of the puck. I just couldn't fathom that. I had him in the 8-14 group of guys. But, top 5.....blergh. I wouldn't take him over Tkachuk or Dubois. But they are odder and odder by the day in Vancouver. All I want is Clayton Keller And Kate Upton to sit on my face. +1 for the latter. Tkachuk, Chychrun, Juolevi before Keller. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted May 26, 2016 Report Share Posted May 26, 2016 :w00t: Please let this happen. Then we just need one of the D to get taken before us and we've got our choice between Keller and Nylander. If Nylander is there at 8, that's the pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ct fab Posted May 26, 2016 Report Share Posted May 26, 2016 Doubt it - Nylander is considered soft, Keller I think will be the better pro. I am often wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted May 26, 2016 Report Share Posted May 26, 2016 (edited) Doubt it - Nylander is considered soft, Keller I think will be the better pro. I am often wrong.Soft like his brother, who's looking very, very good? The scouts could be wrong but nearly every list has Nylander ranked well above Keller, Nylander is even top 5 in several. Nylander - http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=212641 Keller - http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=226432 Look, I really like Keller as a prospect, but I'm beginning to think the fact that he'll very likely be available to us at 8 is inflating his prospect value here somewhat, because we know we'll likely be able to pick him there if that's who we want. Edited May 26, 2016 by Thorny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted May 26, 2016 Report Share Posted May 26, 2016 Soft like his brother, who's looking very, very good? The scouts could be wrong but nearly every list has Nylander ranked well above Keller, Nylander is even top 5 in several. Nylander - http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=212641 Keller - http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=226432 Look, I really like Keller as a prospect, but I'm beginning to think the fact that he'll very likely be available to us at 8 is inflating his prospect value here somewhat, because we know we'll likely be able to pick him there if that's who we want. Maybe, but wouldn't that also hold true for the defensemen? I don't sense unreasonably strong enthusiasm for them. That said, if Nylander is there, I take him over Keller...and I love me some Keller. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted May 26, 2016 Report Share Posted May 26, 2016 Hard to say...maybe because there are 3 D to pick between, they are getting compared and contrasted and therefore critiqued a lot? Keller is probably on his own level for forwards likely available at 8. I would love to take Keller if we are picking at 8. Provided the other 6 forwards are gone. To me, Keller over Nylander would be a stretch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kas23 Posted May 26, 2016 Report Share Posted May 26, 2016 Maybe, but wouldn't that also hold true for the defensemen? I don't sense unreasonably strong enthusiasm for them. That said, if Nylander is there, I take him over Keller...and I love me some Keller. Given the pick of a questionable forward versus a questionable defenseman, people are usually going to get excited about the forward. It's human nature. Fans like the prospect of goals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerme1 Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 Do you want to get tougher to play against? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 Do you want to get tougher to play against?Yes, I want to be tough to play against because we're so good at hockey. No, I don't want to watch us checking everything while chasing the puck the whole night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 Soft like his brother, who's looking very, very good? The scouts could be wrong but nearly every list has Nylander ranked well above Keller, Nylander is even top 5 in several. Nylander - http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=212641 Keller - http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=226432 Look, I really like Keller as a prospect, but I'm beginning to think the fact that he'll very likely be available to us at 8 is inflating his prospect value here somewhat, because we know we'll likely be able to pick him there if that's who we want. I think for me personally, Nylander falls against three biases: I prefer my players to outwork and outsmart. He might have those qualities too, but I haven't seen them yet. I — perhaps unfairly — identify his game too much with his brother and his dad. I want my two remaining top six guys (after Sam, ROR, Evander and Jack) to be hard to play against — ideally an elite goal scorer (he might be, but I think good is more likely than elite) and a bull (he won't be). A combination of Nylander and Ennis won't cut it. I don't like the Leafs. I have developed an irrational dislike of his brother and I want him to fail, so I am guilty of transferring that on to Alex. He clearly has talent and if Murray thinks he's the best choice, I will trust that. I just won't be rooting for it to happen. If he's got the right stuff, I will be easily won over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winston Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 I'm leaning hard towards defenseman in this draft unless Tkachuk falls, which just isn't going to happen. I just think a top 6 forward is going to be a lot easier to find in FA than a top 2-3 defenseman will be over the next few years. Just looking at recent Cup contenders, I think our forward group is a lot closer than our blueliners. For example, the main lines Chicago rolled with when they won last year... Kane-Eichel-Reinhart Ennis-O'Reilly-FA winger looks a lot more like Saad-Toews-Kane Bickell-Richards-Hoss than McCabe-Ristolainen Gorges (Ghule?)-Bogo looks like Keith-Hjalmarsson van Riemsdyk-Seabrook Obviously there's a lot more to it (bottom 6, bottom pairing, coaching). Didn't want to waste your time and bandwidth on all that since this is just one silly example that is honestly more confirmation bias than evidence haha. But man, I want those lockdown top-two pairings. I just fear if we go BPA forward and none of our defensemen in the pipelines pan out, we'll be grasping for someone to pair with Risto. Or McCabe will develop and fit up there but that leaves us with someone-Bogo as a second pairing? I won't lose any sleep if we go Nylander or someone else and honestly I'll be just as excited for Jack's future winger. I just would be leaning D if I'm GMTM. Unless he's got a big plan to improve the top 4 in FA or trade :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 I think for me personally, Nylander falls against three biases: I prefer my players to outwork and outsmart. He might have those qualities too, but I haven't seen them yet. I — perhaps unfairly — identify his game too much with his brother and his dad. I want my two remaining top six guys (after Sam, ROR, Evander and Jack) to be hard to play against — ideally an elite goal scorer (he might be, but I think good is more likely than elite) and a bull (he won't be). A combination of Nylander and Ennis won't cut it. I don't like the Leafs. I have developed an irrational dislike of his brother and I want him to fail, so I am guilty of transferring that on to Alex. He clearly has talent and if Murray thinks he's the best choice, I will trust that. I just won't be rooting for it to happen.If he's got the right stuff, I will be easily won over. The top 4 you listed already seem like hard to play against players, I don't have a problem with some pure skill being inserted. Some finishing ability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 This place has Keller fever. That's right, infatuation over a 5'10" 170lb forward. Hell I remember hearing how Reinhart was only 6'1" 190 so he might not be big enough. Keller at 8 would be fine but other players like nylander or the defenders are also good. Don't get tunnel vision on Keller. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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