dudacek Posted June 18, 2015 Report Share Posted June 18, 2015 Murray doesn't sound like he's selling an asset here... "They feel that he's NHL ready, we think he needs time in the minors" - Murray on contract discussions with Grigorenko's camp. It sure didn't. I actually got a sense they whole concern over a one-way deal is a bit of a motivational tool. Grigo won't clear waivers, so Murray is going to set it up like he "caved" on the one-way, putting the onus on Grigo to prove him self and maybe give him a confidence boost heading into camp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted June 18, 2015 Report Share Posted June 18, 2015 It sure didn't. I actually got a sense they whole concern over a one-way deal is a bit of a motivational tool. Grigo won't clear waivers, so Murray is going to set it up like he "caved" on the one-way, putting the onus on Grigo to prove him self and maybe give him a confidence boost heading into camp. That waiver thing is huge. No way he goes to the A this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted June 18, 2015 Report Share Posted June 18, 2015 (edited) More Murray on Grigs: "If he is what he thinks he is then he's in the NHL, but not in Buffalo." - Murray on the Grigorenko camp's assertion he's an NHL player. Hoppe: Zac Dalpe won't be back. Sounds like Kevin Sundher likely won't, either. Edited June 18, 2015 by Hoss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted June 18, 2015 Report Share Posted June 18, 2015 More Murray on Grigs: "If he is what he thinks he is then he's in the NHL, but not in Buffalo." - Murray on the Grigorenko camp's assertion he's an NHL player. Hoppe: Zac Dalpe won't be back. Sounds like Kevin Sundher likely won't, either. That Murray quote was in the context of, if they give Grigorenko a two-way deal, and they try and send him down, and he is what he thinks he is, he'll get picked up by another team to play in the NHL. Murray was explaining that if Grigorenko and his agent really believe he is ready for the NHL, there is no harm in signing a two-way deal as he couldn't end up in the A no matter what. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunomatic Posted June 19, 2015 Report Share Posted June 19, 2015 That Murray quote was in the context of, if they give Grigorenko a two-way deal, and they try and send him down, and he is what he thinks he is, he'll get picked up by another team to play in the NHL. Murray was explaining that if Grigorenko and his agent really believe he is ready for the NHL, there is no harm in signing a two-way deal as he couldn't end up in the A no matter what. Thats how I heard it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted June 19, 2015 Report Share Posted June 19, 2015 The more I roll that over in my head, the more I take it as a challenge by Murray, perhaps even support. It sounds like Murray will give him a chance but that Grigo has to hold up his end (which is really the way professional sports works anyway, right?) It could still be a cultural thing where the reality of North American sports practice is sinking in to young Grigo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted June 19, 2015 Report Share Posted June 19, 2015 The more I roll that over in my head, the more I take it as a challenge by Murray, perhaps even support. It sounds like Murray will give him a chance but that Grigo has to hold up his end (which is really the way professional sports works anyway, right?) It could still be a cultural thing where the reality of North American sports practice is sinking in to young Grigo. Yep I think he's trying to push the right buttons to get this enigma motivated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X. Benedict Posted June 19, 2015 Report Share Posted June 19, 2015 Yep I think he's trying to push the right buttons to get this enigma motivated. If he isn't traded (and I don't think he will be), I think he'll be a Sabre. I have no problem with GMTM saying what he did. He should come in as a minor leaguer and hope to earn his spot. 2 way, one way, it hardly matters now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huckleberry Posted June 23, 2015 Report Share Posted June 23, 2015 I think it remains very quiet around Hodgson, certainly a decission has to be made soon. And i get Murray, nobody wants to just dump young players, but even we in our mock ups for next year don't see any room for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted June 23, 2015 Report Share Posted June 23, 2015 If nothing else, I hope that Reinhart and Eichel can inject some life into the PP, and that one of the new coaches has the knack for developing a good PP scheme. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted June 23, 2015 Report Share Posted June 23, 2015 If nothing else, I hope that Reinhart and Eichel can inject some life into the PP, and that one of the new coaches has the knack for developing a good PP scheme. They have been like viagra for my pp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny DangerFace Posted June 23, 2015 Report Share Posted June 23, 2015 we need a good PP slapper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted June 24, 2015 Report Share Posted June 24, 2015 Might have been posted elsewhere but: Still unclear if Grigorenko goes back to KHL, but CSKA is hoping to have him on board by the end of the month. Negotiations ongoing #Sabres From a Russian reporter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trettioåtta Posted June 24, 2015 Report Share Posted June 24, 2015 Might have been posted elsewhere but: Still unclear if Grigorenko goes back to KHL, but CSKA is hoping to have him on board by the end of the month. Negotiations ongoing #Sabres From a Russian reporter I wonder if Grigo is concerned about his place on the Sabres. I.e. he is aware Reinhart and Eichel will be our 1/2 and that leaves his future as a third line centre Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted June 24, 2015 Report Share Posted June 24, 2015 I wonder if Grigo is concerned about his place on the Sabres. I.e. he is aware Reinhart and Eichel will be our 1/2 and that leaves his future as a third line centre No player should ever have this concern. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huckleberry Posted June 24, 2015 Report Share Posted June 24, 2015 (edited) I wonder if Grigo is concerned about his place on the Sabres. I.e. he is aware Reinhart and Eichel will be our 1/2 and that leaves his future as a third line centre To be honest if Grigorenko turns into our third line centre i'd be happy. The future of this team should be to able to roll all 3 lines. I have stated this before but a 3rd line of Foligno - Grigorenko - Girgensons would be awesome in 2 years. To me that is a 3rd line filled with 30 - 40 point producers that will keep the pressure up on the top 6. Edited June 24, 2015 by Heimdall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattPie Posted June 24, 2015 Report Share Posted June 24, 2015 To be honest if Grigorenko turns into our third line centre i'd be happy. The future of this team should be to able to roll all 3 lines. I have stated this before but a 3rd line of Foligno - Grigorenko - Girgensons would be awesome in 2 years. To me that is a 3rd line filled with 30 - 40 point producers that will keep the pressure up on the top 6. But will Grigorenko be happy? And will he be able to keep up with the traditional defensive responsibilities of a 3rd line center? If this comes to pass, you have to consider trading Grigs for a true 3rd-line center plus something else. This is where coaches and GMs earn the big bucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted June 24, 2015 Report Share Posted June 24, 2015 But will Grigorenko be happy? And will he be able to keep up with the traditional defensive responsibilities of a 3rd line center? If this comes to pass, you have to consider trading Grigs for a true 3rd-line center plus something else. This is where coaches and GMs earn the big bucks. I don't need a traditional 3rd line center. Vanek-Roy-Afinogenov was a pretty non-traditional 3rd line that took advantage of personnel mismatches. If our 4th line can pull checking duty this would work especially well. Ditto if Reinhart can hold down solid two way play., Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattPie Posted June 24, 2015 Report Share Posted June 24, 2015 I don't need a traditional 3rd line center. Vanek-Roy-Afinogenov was a pretty non-traditional 3rd line that took advantage of personnel mismatches. If our 4th line can pull checking duty this would work especially well. Ditto if Reinhart can hold down solid two way play., I agree, but that line only really worked in the two years the NHL wasn't the NHL. Maybe you can do it with different personnel this time around, or maybe not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted June 24, 2015 Report Share Posted June 24, 2015 I agree, but that line only really worked in the two years the NHL wasn't the NHL. Maybe you can do it with different personnel this time around, or maybe not. That line was only together for those two years in that particular role. That whole Black Sunday thing forced that line to go from #3 to #1 overnight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted June 24, 2015 Report Share Posted June 24, 2015 I agree, but that line only really worked in the two years the NHL wasn't the NHL. Maybe you can do it with different personnel this time around, or maybe not. I wouldn't call Chicago's 3rd line a defensive line in the typical sense either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny DangerFace Posted June 26, 2015 Report Share Posted June 26, 2015 (edited) An updated organizational depth chart after the goalie trade (not lines) Edited June 26, 2015 by Vlad Dangerslakov Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted June 26, 2015 Report Share Posted June 26, 2015 An updated organizational depth chart after the goalie trade No Cody Mc? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spndnchz Posted June 26, 2015 Report Share Posted June 26, 2015 No Cody Mc? No Ellis? :doh: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny DangerFace Posted June 26, 2015 Report Share Posted June 26, 2015 No Cody Mc? added No Ellis? :doh: oh he's there sadly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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