bills_fan_in_raleigh Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 Canes are realizing that tanking may get them another superstar and screw Buffalo while they are at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LastPommerFan Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 next 5 Sabres games are against 3 current CHL Teams, 1 former CHL Team, and 1 soon-to-be CHL team. This could be very good, or very very bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi2000 Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 (edited) The frustrating thing is Buffalo is playing worse than EDM and CAR, yet those two teams keep finding ways to win... If you look at the stats, Buffalo is far and away the worst (best CHL) team in the league. http://www.puckalyti.../teamstats.html CAR has the 6th best Corsi% in the entire league, EDM 16th. Both teams are, on average, outshooting their opponents. BUF is dead last, 8 percentage points worse than the next worse team. Getting outshot almost 2-1 on a nightly basis. In games decided by 1 goal, BUF is 8-6, CAR is 3-11, and EDM is 3-10. Jhonas Enroth is single handedly driving the tank off the road. His stock is as high as it will every be and he's a pending UFA. He needs to go sooner than later. Edited December 10, 2014 by pi2000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 As much as I want the tank I'm not trading Enroth just because of it. I'm trading him because he has value as a starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 I don't think Enroth has value unless Irbe is going with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CallawaySabres Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 The frustrating thing is Buffalo is playing worse than EDM and CAR, yet those two teams keep finding ways to win... If you look at the stats, Buffalo is far and away the worst (best CHL) team in the league. http://www.puckalyti.../teamstats.html CAR has the 6th best Corsi% in the entire league, EDM 16th. Both teams are, on average, outshooting their opponents. BUF is dead last, 8 percentage points worse than the next worse team. Getting outshot almost 2-1 on a nightly basis. In games decided by 1 goal, BUF is 8-6, CAR is 3-11, and EDM is 3-10. Jhonas Enroth is single handedly driving the tank off the road. His stock is as high as it will every be and he's a pending UFA. He needs to go sooner than later. Aren't we going to need a starting goalie that can win games when the rest of the team is ready to make a run? How do we know Enroth is not that guy? Is Neuvirth? I don't know but I certainly don't want to add another hole to this roster that they have to find next year anyway...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi2000 Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 Aren't we going to need a starting goalie that can win games when the rest of the team is ready to make a run? How do we know Enroth is not that guy? Is Neuvirth? I don't know but I certainly don't want to add another hole to this roster that they have to find next year anyway...... Good point. If Enroth can play like he has over the past month for the next 6-7 years, then you have to keep him.... he's putting up Hasek like numbers.... but can he sustain that level of play? As a Sabres fan, I would like to think that, but is it realistic? Watching him play, it just seems like a lot of pucks are just hitting him, perhaps that's a product of being in good position, or luck, or a little of both. I remember in one of the recent games, there were something like 4 or 5 shots that rang off the post/bar against him. Don't get me wrong, he's in the zone right now, but I certainly don't expect him to continue he recent level of play... and I don't think he's the long term solution in net. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 I don't think Enroth has value unless Irbe is going with him. Depends on what you define as value... Scrivens was traded despite quite clearly being a product of LA's system/coaching. Teams were clamoring for Martin Jones, too. Same with Fasth and Anaheim's goalies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 Depends on what you define as value... Scrivens was traded despite quite clearly being a product of LA's system/coaching. Teams were clamoring for Martin Jones, too. Same with Fasth and Anaheim's goalies. So we just need one team that has no idea what it's doing with goalies to bite? Hello, Edmonton? Yes. Yes we have one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 So we just need one team that has no idea what it's doing with goalies to bite? Hello, Edmonton? Yes. Yes we have one. Essentially what I'm going for. Edmonton is one and all it takes is one. There will be others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 I don't see a particularly compelling reason to trade Enroth or Neuvirth. If the return is going to be a 2nd round pick and a dookie prospect, I don't find that compelling. Trading either one to promote the tank is only a reasonable course of action if you think they're going to maintain their current level of play, which I do not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spndnchz Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 Good point. If Enroth can play like he has over the past month for the next 6-7 years, then you have to keep him.... he's putting up Hasek like numbers.... but can he sustain that level of play? As a Sabres fan, I would like to think that, but is it realistic? Watching him play, it just seems like a lot of pucks are just hitting him, perhaps that's a product of being in good position, or luck, or a little of both. I remember in one of the recent games, there were something like 4 or 5 shots that rang off the post/bar against him. Don't get me wrong, he's in the zone right now, but I certainly don't expect him to continue he recent level of play... and I don't think he's the long term solution in net. Woah there big fella. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted December 11, 2014 Report Share Posted December 11, 2014 Woah there big fella. #shitchzneversays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted December 11, 2014 Report Share Posted December 11, 2014 Fuc_ing Edmonton :wallbash: :wallbash: :wallbash: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabres Fan in NS Posted December 11, 2014 Report Share Posted December 11, 2014 #shitchzneversays :w00t: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted December 11, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2014 Current standings through games played 12/10. Team ----- GP - L - W - OT - PTS Edmonton 29 17 7 5 39 Carolina 27 16 8 3 35 Buffalo 28 16 10 2 34 Arizona 28 15 10 3 33 Columbus 27 15 10 2 32 Colorado 28 13 9 6 32 Winnipeg 28 9 15 5 23 Florida 26 8 11 7 23 6 teams in action tonight, including Losipeg in Cowawado. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob_sauve28 Posted December 11, 2014 Report Share Posted December 11, 2014 Edmonton makes me angry. What a trashy hockey program. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted December 11, 2014 Report Share Posted December 11, 2014 Edmonton makes me angry. What a trashy hockey program. Their ineptitude will be rewarded in June Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted December 11, 2014 Report Share Posted December 11, 2014 Their ineptitude will be rewarded in June Their ineptitude is rewarded every June. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LastPommerFan Posted December 11, 2014 Report Share Posted December 11, 2014 Their ineptitude will be rewarded in June If they don't end up in Buffalo, I want them out west. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob_sauve28 Posted December 11, 2014 Report Share Posted December 11, 2014 Their ineptitude is rewarded every June. Seriously! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted December 11, 2014 Report Share Posted December 11, 2014 Their ineptitude is rewarded every June. The worse part is statistically speaking they are bound to get it right with all these top five picks. When they do they will have a heck of a team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunkard Posted December 11, 2014 Report Share Posted December 11, 2014 I fear Edmonton more than anybody in the CHL. They've proven to be a worthy adversary for most of the last decade. With some tweaking they could improve that team. If they traded Eberle to St. Louis for Berglund like was previously remoed and had them add Ott into the deal they could fix their hole at center and add some toughness and grit and get some better defensive play from their forwards. I wish they had made the trade to pick up Boychuk and Leddy instead of the Islanders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted December 12, 2014 Report Share Posted December 12, 2014 Sigh... What a waste of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted December 12, 2014 Report Share Posted December 12, 2014 10th place here we come god ###### damn it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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