BagBoy Posted June 25, 2015 Report Share Posted June 25, 2015 Nice, thanks for the updates, Hoss. The one thing I keep having to remind myself is that they can get a team in Quebec City without putting them in the Eastern Conference at least initially (a la Winnipeg in the EC). Perhaps they add in Seattle, Vegas, and QC with the stipulation that QC has to play in the WC until something gives (such as the Panthers moving to Kansas City or something)? I know there's a lot to consider with that. Would the NHLPA have a play in the travel concerns with QC in the WC? I'm certain the QC fans wouldn't mind. I would certainly mind if I was a Nordique fan. That would be brutal. If the NHL actually does something sane for a change and puts a team back in Quebec City, then they absolutely, positively MUST be in our division with the Habs, Sens, Leafs, etc. This means you have to boot either Columbus or Detroit to the west. We all know Detroit has more pull than Columbus, so Detroit would stay in the east, but they would have to move to the other division. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasmus_ Posted June 25, 2015 Report Share Posted June 25, 2015 (edited) Quebec City, and Seattle. I truly do believe that Las Vegas is a joke. As if one failing team in the desert isn't enough. Edited June 25, 2015 by TheCerebral1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#freejame Posted June 25, 2015 Report Share Posted June 25, 2015 Quebec City, and Seattle. I truly do believe that Las Vegas is a joke. As if one failing team in the desert isn't enough. If it's a joke, it certainly isn't a funny one. I still don't understand expanding when there are teams that seem suitable for relocation. QC and Seattle are my first choices as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabills Posted June 25, 2015 Report Share Posted June 25, 2015 Quebec City, and Seattle. I truly do believe that Las Vegas is a joke. As if one failing team in the desert isn't enough. I know they keep saying it won't happen, but I'm still on the "Vegas and Seattle get a team, Arizona moves to Quebec" train. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#freejame Posted June 25, 2015 Report Share Posted June 25, 2015 Bob Boughner Darryl Shannon Dwayne Roloson Geoff Sanderson drafted from Buffalo Additionally Buffalo traded Jean Luc Grande Pierre, Matt Davidson, and two 5th round picks as consideration for Columbus not drafting a Buffalo goalie. OK, maybe not so bad. *breathes* I'm not sure how you can say it wasn't so bad right after talking about Buffalo losing superstar Geoff Sanderson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunomatic Posted June 25, 2015 Report Share Posted June 25, 2015 Josh Cooper posted a whole bunch of pictures taken from inside the new (half built) arena in Las Vegas: https://twitter.com/JoshuaCooper Mmmm. I wonder if they'll have slots in the washrooms ? :flirt: Its guaranteed they'll have craps. :sick: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted June 25, 2015 Report Share Posted June 25, 2015 Canes won't be moved. They do fine in NC. Panthers are inevitable. Coyotes are possible but I think the NHL wants to stay in Phoenix any way they can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted June 25, 2015 Report Share Posted June 25, 2015 (edited) If it's a joke, it certainly isn't a funny one. I still don't understand expanding when there are teams that seem suitable for relocation. QC and Seattle are my first choices as well. I'm assuming two $500 million franchise fees will be much more money than one or two relocation fees. Also, relocation doesn't create more player jobs. Edited June 25, 2015 by TrueBluePhD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted June 25, 2015 Report Share Posted June 25, 2015 If it's a joke, it certainly isn't a funny one. I still don't understand expanding when there are teams that seem suitable for relocation. QC and Seattle are my first choices as well. Money....lots of it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted June 25, 2015 Report Share Posted June 25, 2015 (edited) I'm assuming two $500 million franchise fees will be much more money than one or two relocation fees. Also, relocation doesn't create more player jobs. That's the other thing. Why pay $500MM when teams sell for half that? Edited June 25, 2015 by Promonov Robotnik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted June 25, 2015 Report Share Posted June 25, 2015 Mmmm. I wonder if they'll have slots in the washrooms ? :flirt: Its guaranteed they'll have craps. :sick: Bad...... :D That's the other thing. Why pay $500MM when teams sell for half that? because it may be easier to get an expansion team at this point. Plus I'm guessing these potential owners would rather start their own team than have to go purchase one and then move them, fire all front office staff....etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted June 25, 2015 Report Share Posted June 25, 2015 That's the other thing. Why pay $500MM when teams sell for half that? 1) Availability 2) Choice of location Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted June 26, 2015 Report Share Posted June 26, 2015 I tell you what, with a $500 million investment up front, it is going to take a long time to break even. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted June 26, 2015 Report Share Posted June 26, 2015 (edited) Interesting take on expansion. This would allow expansion teams to go to GTA and Quebec City and Las Vegas. Create three 11 Team Conferences and have the top 16 teams make the playoffs. This would eliminate the Eastern and Western Conference imbalance. http://www.si.com/nhl/2015/06/25/nhl-expansion-announcement-best-cities-for-teams-conference-format-change Edited June 26, 2015 by BRAWNDO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X. Benedict Posted June 26, 2015 Report Share Posted June 26, 2015 I tell you what, with a $500 million investment up front, it is going to take a long time to break even. Half a Billion? Where are these teams going? I hope they like hockey in Dubai. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted June 26, 2015 Report Share Posted June 26, 2015 How could the league not target 2017-2018 for this expansion. That has to be exactly what they have planned as a part of the 100th anniversary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted June 30, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2015 An ownership group in Tukwila (just outside Seattle) has confirmed that they will put in an expansion application within the upcoming window. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted June 30, 2015 Report Share Posted June 30, 2015 Interesting take on expansion. This would allow expansion teams to go to GTA and Quebec City and Las Vegas. Create three 11 Team Conferences and have the top 16 teams make the playoffs. This would eliminate the Eastern and Western Conference imbalance. http://www.si.com/nhl/2015/06/25/nhl-expansion-announcement-best-cities-for-teams-conference-format-change Play each team in your conference 6 times, that's 60 games. Then play the other 22 teams once. That's 82 games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted June 30, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2015 I haven't read that SI article yet, but I think the idea of a 33-team league with three 11-team conferences is a cool idea to think about. Say expansion is Seattle, Vegas and QC... The three conferences could be something like: East: Quebec City Montreal Toronto Buffalo Pittsburgh Philadelphia Washington New York New York New Jersey Boston Central: Dallas Nashville Tampa Bay Florida St. Louis Chicago Minnesota Carolina Columbus Ottawa Detroit West: Vancouver Seattle San Jose Los Angeles Anaheim Arizona Las Vegas Edmonton Calgary Colorado Winnipeg If Kansas City is the third expansion instead of QC then KC goes to the midwest and Columbus, Detroit or Ottawa goes to the East. Also if teams move (such as Florida/Arizona) it's easy to realign them in this format because there's teams on each edge. Six games against your conference and one against every other team doesn't give enough variety, but it's tough to match it up otherwise. Four teams against everybody in your conference and one against everybody else gives you 84 games so they could easily just expand to 84 games to make that work. Or it could be four games against everybody in your conference but two (you play three against those two). It would alternate in a pattern so every five years you've played the same schedule as everybody else in your conference. The playoffs could stay at 16 teams. Either the best 16 make it straight up, or the top five from each conference with one wildcard or whatever. Not that hard to figure it out. They could also expand to 18 teams where four teams play in a one-game play-in game which would be kind of fun and generate some excitement. This is obviously some drastic change, but I think it's fun to think about and would generate some new fans of the game with the changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom webster Posted July 1, 2015 Report Share Posted July 1, 2015 (edited) NY Post reporting that Atizona being sold and moved to Las Vegas in time for 2016/17 season. Edited July 1, 2015 by tom webster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted July 1, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2015 NY Post reporting that Atizona being sold and moved to Las Vegas in time for 2016/17 season. http://nypost.com/2015/06/30/arizona-coyotes-to-move-to-las-vegas-under-new-owner/ I would be kind of surprised if this were true... They know Foley has the money and is willing to drop $500M on an expansion fee. They must feel confident they have it in 2-3 other cities, too... Assuming this is true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted July 1, 2015 Report Share Posted July 1, 2015 That reporter either made, or ruined, his career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom webster Posted July 1, 2015 Report Share Posted July 1, 2015 http://nypost.com/2015/06/30/arizona-coyotes-to-move-to-las-vegas-under-new-owner/ I would be kind of surprised if this were true... They know Foley has the money and is willing to drop $500M on an expansion fee. They must feel confident they have it in 2-3 other cities, too... Assuming this is true. It is the Post, but the way this whole Arixona thing has been handled, I wouldn't be surprised either way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted July 1, 2015 Report Share Posted July 1, 2015 It is the Post, but the way this whole Arixona thing has been handled, I wouldn't be surprised either way I retract my previous post...the reporter probably still has a career regardless of the accuracy of the story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewookie1 Posted July 1, 2015 Report Share Posted July 1, 2015 (edited) I say a definite no to a 2nd Toronto team, I hate the idea with a passion. It would take fans away from the Sabres potentially along with giving us another annoying team to hear whine about everything and act snobbish. Leave it 16 v 16 Conferences, send Columbus/Detroit back west if Quebec enters the fray either by a move or expansion. In your 3 Conference design I'd switch Ottawa with Washington, but would rather keep the 2 Conference system Edited July 1, 2015 by thewookie1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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