thewookie1 Posted November 12, 2013 Report Share Posted November 12, 2013 Trade Miller(15%) to the Wild for their 2014 1st rounder, Dany Heatley (Cap dump), and their 2nd rounder in 2015 Trade Stafford to anyone for anything FORWARDS Matt Moulson ($3.133m) / Cody Hodgson ($4.250m) / Tyler Ennis ($2.813m) Dany Heatley ($7.500m) / Marcus Foligno ($0.827m) / Steve Ott ($2.950m) Zemgus Girgensons ($0.894m) / Mikhail Grigorenko ($0.925m) / Brian Flynn ($0.638m) Johan Larsson ($0.763m) / Cody McCormick ($1.200m) / Ville Leino ($4.500m) John Scott ($0.750m) / DEFENSEMEN Tyler Myers ($5.500m) / Christian Ehrhoff ($4.000m) Henrik Tallinder ($3.375m) / Jamie McBain ($1.800m) Mike Weber ($1.667m) / Rasmus Ristolainen ($0.925m) Nikita Zadorov ($0.925m) / Mark Pysyk ($0.870m) GOALTENDERS Jhonas Enroth ($1.250m) BUYOUTS Nathan Gerbe (-$0.092m) BURIED Patrick Kaleta ($0.325m) RETAINED SALARIES (4.86% of upper limit) Jason Pominville ($0.795m—15.00%) Thomas Vanek ($1.393m—19.50%) Ryan Miller ($0.938m—15.00%) ------ CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter) (estimations for 2013-14 crunched using simulation date of 2013-11-12) SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; BONUSES: $3,205,000 CAP SPACE (22-man roster): $11,232,608 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted November 12, 2013 Report Share Posted November 12, 2013 http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/players/3166 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom webster Posted November 12, 2013 Report Share Posted November 12, 2013 It doesn't matter if they don't need a goalie. Just trade him to whomever Darcy wants! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattPie Posted November 12, 2013 Report Share Posted November 12, 2013 It doesn't matter if they don't need a goalie. Just trade him to whomever Darcy wants! Miller for a pick around #20 and a 2nd rounder? Sounds like a deal to me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted November 12, 2013 Report Share Posted November 12, 2013 http://sports.yahoo....hl/players/3166 Well played. I think Miller's ultimate destination will be St. Louis. I think Halak will continue to struggle with health and his play won't continue at a super high level. We'll bring back Elliott as a pointless rental backup to Enroth before handing Hackett the keys to the backup spot next season. Or we'll bring Elliott back then deal him separately. Something like a first, Elliott and a mid-level prospect. We eat a good chunk of Miller's salary. As far as posting trade ideas goes: Moulson to any of the Rangers, Wild, Predators, Hurricanes, Blue Jackets, Stars or Kings for either a first or a solid prospect. There are between 10-15 fits for him so it could just come down to whoever offers the most. Ott to Vancouver for a first sounds good to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted November 12, 2013 Report Share Posted November 12, 2013 http://sports.yahoo....hl/players/3166 Not that I'm defending the trade suggestion, but you do have to wonder if Harding's MS will eventually cause some trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted November 12, 2013 Report Share Posted November 12, 2013 Kill me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted November 12, 2013 Report Share Posted November 12, 2013 Not that I'm defending the trade suggestion, but you do have to wonder if Harding's MS will eventually cause some trouble. Definitely something to consider. Though my Dad has had MS for 30 years now, and from what've learned from him, the progression of MS can vary a lot from person-to-person. I've done some reading and almost evey person with MS lives in colder climates; not that those temps. are connected casually, but because hot temperatures, sickness, allergies (usually found in wet/hot places), trigger the immune system and therefore an MS attack. So living in Minnesota, and playing on ice might serve to help him some. Though I could be wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted November 12, 2013 Report Share Posted November 12, 2013 Kill me. Take me with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted November 12, 2013 Report Share Posted November 12, 2013 I like these sort of threads. It keeps the suggestions out of the actual discussion threads. This is an online forum for random discussion/speculation after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherman Posted November 13, 2013 Report Share Posted November 13, 2013 I think people will be disappointed with the return we get for Miller. There doesn't seem to be much of a market and when/if someone needs one they will be able to choose from Miller, Thomas, an Anaheim goalie or a wildcard. All of the other options will be cheaper than Miller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted November 13, 2013 Report Share Posted November 13, 2013 I think people will be disappointed with the return we get for Miller. There doesn't seem to be much of a market and when/if someone needs one they will be able to choose from Miller, Thomas, an Anaheim goalie or a wildcard. All of the other options will be cheaper than Miller. And all the other options will be worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted November 13, 2013 Report Share Posted November 13, 2013 You'll get a decent player and a second for Miller. Few will give you a first for a goalie with Miller's miles and age on him unless they're desperate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaLaLaFontaine Posted November 13, 2013 Report Share Posted November 13, 2013 Sign Miller, sign Moulson, sign Ott, get rid of Stafford, buy out Leino, trade Ennis if you do not believe in him, trade Tallinder. I do not want an Oiler like rebuilt, because they suck for too long time. I want to see some nice hockey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesportsbuff Posted November 13, 2013 Report Share Posted November 13, 2013 I think people will be disappointed with the return we get for Miller. There doesn't seem to be much of a market and when/if someone needs one they will be able to choose from Miller, Thomas, an Anaheim goalie or a wildcard. All of the other options will be cheaper than Miller. I think Anaheim makes the most sense for Miller (now that Edmonton signed Bryzgalov). Hiller is a UFA and not playing well, while the offense carries them to wins. In the end they will realize they have a legitimate chance to win the cup and send Teemu out on top, and they will pay a fair price to acquire Miller knowing that they have a great chance to sign him longer term if the cap space is there. Buffalo would take back Hiller (cap dump), and maybe Gibson? Or do you think that is too much? Obviously with Miller's UFA status it's still a risk to give up so much for a "rental" but I think we all know the story on Miller: wants to play out West, for a contending team. Check and check. If we can find some other interested teams and drum up a little bidding war maybe we can pull it off. Or even throw in some of our draft picks. I would suggest Makarov, but I think he could realistically become a NHL starter as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted November 13, 2013 Report Share Posted November 13, 2013 I had this really vivid dream last night where Vanek was traded to the 'Hawks for Kane. Then I became Vanek, and, for some reason, was playing for the Crapitals. And the arena was inside an arcade with a pool hall, and the metro stopped right in the dressing room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted November 13, 2013 Report Share Posted November 13, 2013 You'll get a decent player and a second for Miller. Few will give you a first for a goalie with Miller's miles and age on him unless they're desperate. Really, the best bet for the Sabres would be if Miller makes the olympic team and gets good playing time over there. If he can manage to look good with a much better team in front of him, his value will go up. You probably also have to root for an injured goalie or two later in the year . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunomatic Posted November 13, 2013 Report Share Posted November 13, 2013 ot ( but maybe not ) anyone know what the major news conference is today by the Sabres ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted November 13, 2013 Report Share Posted November 13, 2013 I had this really vivid dream last night where Vanek was traded to the 'Hawks for Kane. Then I became Vanek, and, for some reason, was playing for the Crapitals. And the arena was inside an arcade with a pool hall, and the metro stopped right in the dressing room. Less scotch before bed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted November 13, 2013 Report Share Posted November 13, 2013 I had this really vivid dream last night where Vanek was traded to the 'Hawks for Kane. Then I became Vanek, and, for some reason, was playing for the Crapitals. And the arena was inside an arcade with a pool hall, and the metro stopped right in the dressing room. Why do my vivid dreams always involve implied violence? I like oyurs better. Less scotch before bed Bourbon. Maybe that was my issue last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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