Lanny Posted July 2, 2012 Report Share Posted July 2, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted July 2, 2012 Report Share Posted July 2, 2012 or on the top line 1st game. he gets 3rd line I'd imagine, Ott on wing I'd guess. 'Cause they've never started the year w/ a rook on the top line before, cough, cough, Luke Adam, cough, cough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesportsbuff Posted July 2, 2012 Report Share Posted July 2, 2012 Not to discredit the signing, but people are getting carried away with Ott's size -- he is only listed at 6'0", which is a full four inches smaller than Paul Gaustad. He's a much more physical player and better figher than Gaustad, but I don't think Lucic is exactly quivering in his boots over Steve Ott. We added physicality, toughness, grit -- not exactly size. Thomas Vanek is bigger than Steve Ott. Scott is a different story, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted July 2, 2012 Report Share Posted July 2, 2012 Anyone who doesn't like this trade can suck my nuts. BOTH of em. Ditching that little shitbird is all sorts of addition by subtraction. Now let's see if Darcy can accomplish addition by addition. Outstanding. Testify! I mean what does he do that's worth trading a guy we could have used to get Ryan? does he win face offs? Does he make plays? All I know is we need offense and as of now I don't get how Ott will help with that. Sorry to be that guy but what can we offer the Ducks now? I thought Roy would be the figure piece for a trade for Ryan. Why in the world do you think this? Because you (and everyone else here) wanted it to be that way? I think you know better than this. i believe that ott is filling the position of the concept of paul gaustad. could darcy be done with this one? will he go into camp with his nhl centers being hodgson, ennis, ott, and mccormick? (i am leaving grigor out of it.) If XB says Griggy is going to be on the Sabres this year, I believe it. He's basically a much better Gaustad. 14th in the league in faceoffs this year, with size and grit. Not that much size -- 6'0", 190 lbs. Meh. Happy to see Ott a Sabre, but I think I'd still take a healthy, 70 point Roy instead. Surprised we couldn't get more for him. Again -- this isn't fantasy hockey. Roy has been an albatross on this team since Black Sunday. nope more coming....... hockey insider is on it Rick nash now being associated with buffalo..... linkage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted July 2, 2012 Report Share Posted July 2, 2012 I think Roy saying goodbye through his brother on twitter: Thank you city of buffalo & buffalo sabres for all the good times and the hospitality! Will always be my second home #greatcity #greatpeople Very classy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted July 2, 2012 Report Share Posted July 2, 2012 Not that much size -- 6'0", 190 lbs. Sure, but he plays the game the way Gaustad never did, so that makes him about 6" bigger than Goose in my book. :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted July 2, 2012 Report Share Posted July 2, 2012 To me, this move all but eliminates Kaleta from the team's plans. We'll see, but I can't see the Sabres heading into the season with Kaleta, Ott, McCormick and Scott on the roster. This could be right. Bucky tweeting that trade is a result of roy opening his mouth... There might be some truth to this, but it sounds like a Bucky oversimplification. We could get bobby Ryan and people would bitch. We have Hodgson, Ennis, ott, Adam, and grigs. This is the best trade ever for Roy. He is going to crumble in the west. We got a guy who is 55% on face offs, 5th in the league with 276 hits, 40 Pts and 156 penalty mins. Geeee I think Darcy messed up, NOT. Thanks DR sooo much excellent trade Good post. Awesome. Like many ppl said to many other ppl if we are sending Roy for Ott Dallas gotta sweeten the pot Pardy isn't enough of a sweetener for you to be congratulating yourself like this. Given Pardy's contract, the sweetener could easily have been the Sabres agreeing to take him off of Dallas' payroll. I stick with what I said earlier — this trade has been done for a while, Darcy was just waiting for another shoe to drop. Now let's see what that shoe was. Might be a simple as we aren't getting Ryan for Roy-plus, so Roy was no longer needed. This sounds quite possible. Hodgson. I'm thinking this is who they have wanted all along. I don't see them trading Hodgson unless it's part of a package for Getzlaf or another elite center. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesportsbuff Posted July 2, 2012 Report Share Posted July 2, 2012 Again -- this isn't fantasy hockey. Roy has been an albatross on this team since Black Sunday. Again -- this is your opinion. Some people weigh a 30 goal, 70 point guy more heavily than a guy who hits. I'm still up in the air on the trade, I would have liked to get more from Roy, but it looks like Hamilton was right. Either way I'm happy to have Ott, just trying to view the trade from a logistics standpoint than just being happy that a guy who allegedly doesn't like his coach is gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted July 2, 2012 Report Share Posted July 2, 2012 Sure, but he plays the game the way Gaustad never did, so that makes him about 6" bigger than Goose in my book. :P size isnt everything... enter sex joke here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwksndmonster Posted July 2, 2012 Report Share Posted July 2, 2012 linkage? Just random rumors on twitter. Twitter is also now saying the Sabres are frontrunners for Bobby Ryan. Nothing substantial yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RazielSabre Posted July 2, 2012 Report Share Posted July 2, 2012 interesting. darcy is at least giving lip service to pardy's being an nhl defenseman (wgrz sports twitter, sorry no link) No worries I read the same thing but we now have about 9 defensemen, I'm wondering if Sekera and Leopold are on the block. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HopefulFuture Posted July 2, 2012 Report Share Posted July 2, 2012 linkage? Luc Gelinas @LucGelinasRDS For my english friends: The Sabres have not finished moving. A very reliable source assures me they are working hard to get Rick Nash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RazielSabre Posted July 2, 2012 Report Share Posted July 2, 2012 why though? They are below the cap floor at a whoppin 44mil they have 25mil in cap space... it doesn't make sense. Pardy is decent looking (his numbers) he seems to be a shutdown guy and is a -2 in 183gp.... Nathan Gerbe @NathanGerbe42 Sad to see @Roy9ner go. Awesome teammate and guy. Good luck. Welcome John Scott and @otter2nine to buffalo. #begreat Getting rid of Ribero also seemed like an odd move, I'm sure they offered and Darcy didn't say no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deluca67 Posted July 2, 2012 Report Share Posted July 2, 2012 Ott last three season in hits 251, 252, 278. Deluca's gonna crap his pants or... Please see my response up-thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trettioåtta Posted July 2, 2012 Report Share Posted July 2, 2012 Nathan Gerbe @NathanGerbe42 Sad to see @Roy9ner go. Awesome teammate and guy. Good luck. Welcome John Scott and @otter2nine to buffalo. #begreat Why is Gerbe saying the lockeroom cancer was a good teammate? Does he know nothing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RazielSabre Posted July 2, 2012 Report Share Posted July 2, 2012 'Cause they've never started the year w/ a rook on the top line before, cough, cough, Luke Adam, cough, cough. Touche. I'll shut my trap. I still think Vanek and Pom are top line wingers tho. I'd also be surprised i Hogson isn't centering them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted July 2, 2012 Report Share Posted July 2, 2012 Building towards the future. Roy was not a part of that future. The 3rd line just got a lot bigger and we've got a guy that can take important faceoffs, win them, AND stay on the ice. Neither Roy nor Gaustad could do all 3. Good post, especially the bolded part. Luc Gelinas @LucGelinasRDS For my english friends: The Sabres have not finished moving. A very reliable source assures me they are working hard to get Rick Nash Holy mackerel. I have no idea how good ol' Luc's sources are, but he's a legit TV hockey guy in Canada -- not some yob in his basement. I wouldn't trade Ennis and McNabb for Ryan, but I would give both up in a heartbeat for Nash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RazielSabre Posted July 2, 2012 Report Share Posted July 2, 2012 Nathan Gerbe @NathanGerbe42 Sad to see @Roy9ner go. Awesome teammate and guy. Good luck. Welcome John Scott and @otter2nine to buffalo. #begreat Why is Gerbe saying the lockeroom cancer was a good teammate? Does he know nothing? Lol, *snigger* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted July 2, 2012 Report Share Posted July 2, 2012 Good post, especially the bolded part. Holy mackerel. I have no idea how good ol' Luc's sources are, but he's a legit TV hockey guy in Canada -- not some yob in his basement. I wouldn't trade Ennis and McNabb for Ryan, but I would give both up in a heartbeat for Nash. Yup. If the goal of a Stanley Cup in the next two years is still alive, no reason Nash can't be a part of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deluca67 Posted July 2, 2012 Report Share Posted July 2, 2012 Good post, especially the bolded part. Holy mackerel. I have no idea how good ol' Luc's sources are, but he's a legit TV hockey guy in Canada -- not some yob in his basement. I wouldn't trade Ennis and McNabb for Ryan, but I would give both up in a heartbeat for Nash. You're a good man. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koomkie Posted July 2, 2012 Report Share Posted July 2, 2012 Nathan Gerbe @NathanGerbe42 Sad to see @Roy9ner go. Awesome teammate and guy. Good luck. Welcome John Scott and @otter2nine to buffalo. #begreat Why is Gerbe saying the lockeroom cancer was a good teammate? Does he know nothing? :thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted July 2, 2012 Report Share Posted July 2, 2012 Luc Gelinas @LucGelinasRDS For my english friends: The Sabres have not finished moving. A very reliable source assures me they are working hard to get Rick Nash Makes me wonder if C-Bus' plan all along was to unite the Folignos. God I hope not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted July 2, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2012 Darcy's Presser: http://sabres.nhl.com/club/podcastplayer.htm?pid=16&iid=40025 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted July 2, 2012 Report Share Posted July 2, 2012 Again -- this is your opinion. Some people weigh a 30 goal, 70 point guy more heavily than a guy who hits. I'm still up in the air on the trade, I would have liked to get more from Roy, but it looks like Hamilton was right. Either way I'm happy to have Ott, just trying to view the trade from a logistics standpoint than just being happy that a guy who allegedly doesn't like his coach is gone. Fantasy hockey types certainly do. It has nothing to do with whether he likes Lindy. There are many, many great players who don't like their coaches. The stat that really counts is wins. Roy didn't contribute to his team getting 'em, especially in the playoffs. And the most direct evidence we have -- ie what happened to the team in 2010-11 after Roy got hurt -- makes a compelling case that Roy contributed to his team losing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabres Fan in NS Posted July 2, 2012 Report Share Posted July 2, 2012 I do not think that is a very fair statement. I hope you are right, but that is a wild assumption at this point. I've watched Grigorenko play many times. IMO, Taro nailed it, as usual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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