kishoph Posted July 3, 2012 Report Share Posted July 3, 2012 WGR has been saying that the Sabres want OTT on the wing, of course, why would Lindy let him play his position. Another player that will follow in line with Boyes and Leino. Roy may have been a disruptive force, but the real monster destroying the Sabres is Lindy Ruff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted July 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2012 WGR has been saying that the Sabres want OTT on the wing, of course, why would Lindy let him play his position. Another player that will follow in line with Boyes and Leino. Roy may have been a disruptive force, but the real monster destroying the Sabres is Lindy Ruff. FYI: LW has been Ott's primary position throughout his NHL Career. He has added proficiency in the faceoff circle as a way to make himself more valuable and versatile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted July 3, 2012 Report Share Posted July 3, 2012 WGR has been saying that the Sabres want OTT on the wing, of course, why would Lindy let him play his position. Another player that will follow in line with Boyes and Leino. Roy may have been a disruptive force, but the real monster destroying the Sabres is Lindy Ruff. :huh: You do realize that he primarily plays LW, right? After the faceoff, he plays where the LW would. Not sure where you're going w/ this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obstructedorangeseats Posted July 3, 2012 Report Share Posted July 3, 2012 WGR has been saying that the Sabres want OTT on the wing, of course, why would Lindy let him play his position. Another player that will follow in line with Boyes and Leino. Roy may have been a disruptive force, but the real monster destroying the Sabres is Lindy Ruff. Early in the thread, it's been mentioned that Ott's natural position is winger. He takes faceoffs, and then shifts over to play the wing position. As much as I am not a fan of Ruff's coaching, this isn't a Leino/Boyes situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabres Fan in NS Posted July 3, 2012 Report Share Posted July 3, 2012 :huh: You do realize that he primarily plays LW, right? After the faceoff, he plays where the LW would. Not sure where you're going w/ this one. I'm pretty sure I do ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted July 3, 2012 Report Share Posted July 3, 2012 weber is on wgr talking about ott... Mike Weber is such a awesome guy I hope he improves an becomes a solid guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDFan Posted July 3, 2012 Report Share Posted July 3, 2012 This just made me excited for hockey/seeing Ott vs the Bruins Can't wait. I would trade Roy for Ott any day and twice on Sunday. Just what this team needs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheChimp Posted July 3, 2012 Report Share Posted July 3, 2012 I never said Foligno "makes that line"; I said he made his linemates "better." The same way I thought Adam make Vanek better at the start of the season as a power forward who went to the net and gave Vanek room, and the way I think Ott could do something similar. It doesn't mean one player's skills are magically making another guy play well when he normally wouldn't. It means they make each other better by playing with complimentary styles. The entire chemistry, which, unfortunately for so many of you here, includes all THREE players, and none of us can say if even HALF of that productivity and chemistry would have ever materialized if all three of them were not there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Buffalo Posted July 3, 2012 Report Share Posted July 3, 2012 P.S. Dallas just signed Jagr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robviously Posted July 4, 2012 Report Share Posted July 4, 2012 The entire chemistry, which, unfortunately for so many of you here, includes all THREE players, and none of us can say if even HALF of that productivity and chemistry would have ever materialized if all three of them were not there. We know Ennis took his game up a notch before Stafford did and before Foligno showed up on his line. So it wasn't magic. These guys are still responsible for their own performance. There's no point in trying to quantify it (half this guy or half that guy) and, BTW, NO ONE was trying to do that. I said Foligno made his two line mates better, which seemed like the least controversial take of all time, and amazingly that turned into some weird situation where everyone is having a different, unrelated argument. Well done, guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted July 4, 2012 Report Share Posted July 4, 2012 WGR has been saying that the Sabres want OTT on the wing, of course, why would Lindy let him play his position. Another player that will follow in line with Boyes and Leino. Roy may have been a disruptive force, but the real monster destroying the Sabres is Lindy Ruff. Yup, its all Ruffs fault, I bet its also Ruffs fault for everything Obama gets blamed for too! Except that its been said probably 100 times here already that Ott plays wing but takes faceoffs. So yup, Ruffs gonna screw him up by not playing him at his natural position. And it was Darcy that came out right after signing Leino that they brought him in to play Centre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two or less Posted July 4, 2012 Report Share Posted July 4, 2012 weber is on wgr talking about ott... Mike Weber is such a awesome guy I hope he improves an becomes a solid guy. He's def a cool guy, but he was brutally bad at times last season. A big liability for the Sabres in the back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted July 4, 2012 Report Share Posted July 4, 2012 We know Ennis took his game up a notch before Stafford did and before Foligno showed up on his line. So it wasn't magic. These guys are still responsible for their own performance. There's no point in trying to quantify it (half this guy or half that guy) and, BTW, NO ONE was trying to do that. I said Foligno made his two line mates better, which seemed like the least controversial take of all time, and amazingly that turned into some weird situation where everyone is having a different, unrelated argument. Well done, guys. It could be because theres no way to tell if that truly made Ennis better. Theres no proof of that. Ennis was already playing great when Foligno joined him. Thats why people are correcting you. Its not like Ennis was just playing alright and when Foligno joined him he stepped it up, or Foligno was taken off his line and Ennis regressed...... I blame Ruff for the arguement about this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kishoph Posted July 4, 2012 Report Share Posted July 4, 2012 :huh: You do realize that he primarily plays LW, right? After the faceoff, he plays where the LW would. Not sure where you're going w/ this one. I mentioned it because of the threads that talked about him centering a line and the truth is I wasn't sure were he played, I don't follow the Stars at all and I'm not as efficient at Google as some people. Yup, its all Ruffs fault, I bet its also Ruffs fault for everything Obama gets blamed for too! Except that its been said probably 100 times here already that Ott plays wing but takes faceoffs. So yup, Ruffs gonna screw him up by not playing him at his natural position. And it was Darcy that came out right after signing Leino that they brought him in to play Centre Sorry Mrs Ruff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted July 4, 2012 Report Share Posted July 4, 2012 I mentioned it because of the threads that talked about him centering a line and the truth is I wasn't sure were he played, I don't follow the Stars at all and I'm not as efficient at Google as some people. Probably Ruffs fault that you aren't as efficient at google too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robviously Posted July 4, 2012 Report Share Posted July 4, 2012 It could be because theres no way to tell if that truly made Ennis better. Theres no proof of that. Ennis was already playing great when Foligno joined him. Thats why people are correcting you. Its not like Ennis was just playing alright and when Foligno joined him he stepped it up, or Foligno was taken off his line and Ennis regressed...... I blame Ruff for the arguement about this Actually, there is proof of that. He had 18 points in his last 13 games of the season (all with Stafford and Foligno), including several multi-point games. In the 20 games before that, he had 11 points (which, yes, was an improvement over his October and December numbers but not that much). The best we've ever seen Ennis play as a Sabre was when Foligno and Stafford were his line mates. I honestly can't believe anyone is disputing that those three guys made each other better but it's July and here we are. BTW, here's Ennis' game by game since your memory is apparently foggy: http://espn.go.com/nhl/player/gamelog/_/id/5069/tyler-ennis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunomatic Posted July 4, 2012 Report Share Posted July 4, 2012 Video of Ott generally making the Bruins hate him: http://youtu.be/eG6wQRnnT8o Sorry about the NESN feed :( That announcer was so off base I cringed. On the hit by Ferrance on Ott.That was a clean open ice hit well within the rules. He didn't have the puck ! Those guys from Bawston amaze me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted July 4, 2012 Report Share Posted July 4, 2012 I hate this trade as well. Ott nowhere near the talent level as Roy. Maybe not, but Ott has twice the heart, and that's something the Sabres need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted July 4, 2012 Report Share Posted July 4, 2012 This just made me excited for hockey/seeing Ott vs the Bruins Not me. Looks to me that he's going to take a lot of penalties and have someone else clean up his messes. I know there are reasons to really like this guy, but that video isn't one of them IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted July 4, 2012 Report Share Posted July 4, 2012 Not me. Looks to me that he's going to take a lot of penalties and have someone else clean up his messes. I know there are reasons to really like this guy, but that video isn't one of them IMO. Come on man, you're not even a little tickled that this guy is an agitator? I bet he goes to the box and takes someone with him most of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted July 4, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2012 http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/allan_muir/07/03/nhl-trades-sabres-steve-ott-stars/index.html?sct=nhl_t11_a0 Good CNNSI article by Allan Muir on the Roy-Ott trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted July 4, 2012 Report Share Posted July 4, 2012 Come on man, you're not even a little tickled that this guy is an agitator? I bet he goes to the box and takes someone with him most of the time. Overall, I'm really ok with the acquisition, but that video does nothing for me. He didn't do anything there that Kaleta can't do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aladdinsane Posted July 4, 2012 Report Share Posted July 4, 2012 Trade is good! As the Kings are built so should we be. Big & Fast! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted July 4, 2012 Report Share Posted July 4, 2012 Overall, I'm really ok with the acquisition, but that video does nothing for me. He didn't do anything there that Kaleta can't do. Kaleta may be able to do it, but can he do it any better? Also, what can the 2 of them together do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted July 4, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2012 Overall, I'm really ok with the acquisition, but that video does nothing for me. He didn't do anything there that Kaleta can't do. Good point, but Kaleta cannot seem to stay in the lineup ,while Ott has been very durable. Nice to a have couple of guys who play a similar role in any case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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