Andrew Amerk Posted June 23, 2012 Report Share Posted June 23, 2012 My favorite part about this pick is the potential positive impact on Grigorenko. He's now got a buddy (I presume Zegmus speaks Russian) and some competition in the weightroom. About 1/3rd of Latvians speak Russian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Caveman Posted June 23, 2012 Report Share Posted June 23, 2012 About 1/3rd of Latvians speak Russian. Yes, although I understand the percentage goes up quite a bit in his home city of Riga. As I was reading more on these guys last night it became apparent that they're both extremely comfortable speaking english, so it may not be a big deal. In any case, it seems like Zemgus is the type of player who drives the guys around him to be better. That's what our young forwards need. I love the pick. I hope Zemgus plays with Rochester this year. I also expect Mikhail to probably start in Rochester, but he has the talent to play in Buffalo at some point this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted June 23, 2012 Report Share Posted June 23, 2012 Yes, although I understand the percentage goes up quite a bit in his home city of Riga. As I was reading more on these guys last night it became apparent that they're both extremely comfortable speaking english, so it may not be a big deal. In any case, it seems like Zemgus is the type of player who drives the guys around him to be better. That's what our young forwards need. I love the pick. I hope Zemgus plays with Rochester this year. I also expect Mikhail to probably start in Rochester, but he has the talent to play in Buffalo at some point this year. It's either Buffalo or the QMJHL for Mikhail...He cannot go to Rochester. Hopefully it's Buffalo...All Hail Mikhail!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Caveman Posted June 23, 2012 Report Share Posted June 23, 2012 Interesting, do you know the exact rules? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabres Fan in NS Posted June 23, 2012 Report Share Posted June 23, 2012 Yes, he knows Russian. It's like Canadians and English. :w00t: Good one, eh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BetterDays06 Posted June 23, 2012 Report Share Posted June 23, 2012 He looks like a killer, great pick Darcy :) @zemgus94 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabres Fan in NS Posted June 23, 2012 Report Share Posted June 23, 2012 Another outstanding pick, although I don't know as much about Girgensons. I really like how the Sabres played their cards extremely close to their vest on both picks, not to mention how they moved up to 14. All of a sudden centre looks like a position of strength. Maybe now the trade proposals to bring in a number one centre will stop, or at least slow down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X. Benedict Posted June 23, 2012 Report Share Posted June 23, 2012 So, Gaustad and a second for Girgensons. Not bad. And really Jay Feaster was just getting his pick back for dishing Al Kotalik. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabills Posted June 23, 2012 Report Share Posted June 23, 2012 And last nights winning tweet goes to... Dan Fisher @_DanFisher I'm going to say "I have a Zemgus on my Girgensons" until it's not funny anymore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mox Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 Interesting, do you know the exact rules? If you come from one of the Canadian Major Junior Leagues you have to be at least 20 years old to play in the AHL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calti Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 So, that would imply that long term the plan would be Grigorenko on line 1, Hodgson on line 2, and this kid on the 3rd line. If they all pan out, and that works, does that move Ennis back to a wing? ennis is a waste anywhere but center. the kid was awesome there last yr bfor a good stretch when lindy finally figured it out . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Amerk Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 Yes, although I understand the percentage goes up quite a bit in his home city of Riga. As I was reading more on these guys last night it became apparent that they're both extremely comfortable speaking english, so it may not be a big deal. In any case, it seems like Zemgus is the type of player who drives the guys around him to be better. That's what our young forwards need. I love the pick. I hope Zemgus plays with Rochester this year. I also expect Mikhail to probably start in Rochester, but he has the talent to play in Buffalo at some point this year. Grigs can only for Buff or the Q. I believe Girgs is already committed to Vermont. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meathead Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 I was wondering this myself. The national language of Latvia is Latvian, but I don't think that is the conversational language that most people there use (anyone know?)... so I assume he knows Russian (?)... If so that'd be great. all those people sound the same to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewookie1 Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 If he goes to Vermont, would we still be his team or does he go back into the draft? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deluca67 Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 If he goes to Vermont, would we still be his team or does he go back into the draft? He'll remain Sabres property during his college career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 Usually with a kid that is 18, I am all for having him go back to college or a year or two in the minors to get some seasoning. That said, with the way that Girgensons plays, and the fact that he can and should start off as a 4th line C, I see little reason why he couldn't stay up, and we play both of the 18 year olds this coming year. Let McCormick play wing, along with Tropp or Kaleta, and let the kid go out and play. It would be different if his game was all skill. And it would be different if he was expected to play on the top three lines. I just think that three years from now, when he is 21, and had already played two years in the NHL, he would be best suited to become a very good, valuable player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 We are talking about having two 18 year old centers though. I can't imagine any team being very likely to do that. And on another note, everything I've seen out of Vermont strongly points to him being there for the year. I missed that portion of the draft but I have heard that vermonts coach was there with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 We are talking about having two 18 year old centers though. I can't imagine any team being very likely to do that. And on another note, everything I've seen out of Vermont strongly points to him being there for the year. I missed that portion of the draft but I have heard that vermonts coach was there with him. Yeah he was there with him, and Girgensons loves the guy. That is where I expect him to play. The fact that he is 18 doesnt bother me at all when he is the #4 C though, and ALL of the many reasons why you do not have 18 year olds play on your team seem to me to not be concerns with this guy. That's the only reason I suggested it. You worry about hurting a kid's confidence -- that ain't gonna happen with this guy. You worry about too much pressure on him or his skill level not refined enough -- when you're a 4th line C and really just expected to go out there and hustle and bang and wreak havoc that issue goes away. Plus, he probably already has, at 18, the skill level of a lot if not most of the 4th liners. You worry about maturity -- but this kid seems to have all the intangibles you want, moving over to North America by himself at 15, becoming the team leader and captain, having great work ethic, etc. When I see all the guys that have played on the 4th line over the last few years I just don't think the game would be too big for him, and the upside could be a big payoff. Again, if he was expected to play the shifts that Grigs was expected to play, or any other 18 year old C, on any of the top 3 lines I would say no way. But the way he plays, and the expectations, makes an unusual move seem very possible to me. Again, I think he will probably go back to Vermont and play a year of college hockey. But it wouldn't surprise me if he wows the brass at the camp, and they seriously consider keeping him up. Of course, if Roy is still here and they are going to play him at C there is no chance of this happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drnkirishone Posted June 25, 2012 Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 playing him as a 18 year old 4th liner would be near career sucide for him. He is near the apex of his development age. This is the time to maximize the minutes and situations he plays in so that he can actually develop his talents. Playing 5-8 minutes a night and no special teams would not do that. Unless he is getting 12-15 minutes and time on the PK he needs to play in vermont a few seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted June 25, 2012 Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 I'd be beyond shocked if Girgensons sniffs the roster this season, or even next season really. I think he's 2 (maybe 3) full seasons away from making any kind of an impact. I'm assuming 1-2 at Vermont and 1 in Rochester. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted June 25, 2012 Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 playing him as a 18 year old 4th liner would be near career sucide for him. He is near the apex of his development age. This is the time to maximize the minutes and situations he plays in so that he can actually develop his talents. Playing 5-8 minutes a night and no special teams would not do that. Unless he is getting 12-15 minutes and time on the PK he needs to play in vermont a few seasons. I agree he would lose out on some things but think he would gain in others. It's also foolish to speculate on my part that he is ready for this. That would only be found in camp. But he would also be playing in 80 games on the Sabres, and not 32 or so that Vermont would play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted June 25, 2012 Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 i have no basis in fact for this (well, other than some predictably laudatory comments from people who've coached him), really just a hockey fan's intuition: there's something about the cut of this kid's jib that i like. also, nhlvideo's youtube channel thinks the flames picked girgernsons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted June 25, 2012 Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 i have no basis in fact for this (well, other than some predictably laudatory comments from people who've coached him), really just a hockey fan's intuition: there's something about the cut of this kid's jib that i like. also, nhlvideo's youtube channel thinks the flames picked girgernsons. I'm with you Aud. There's something about Zemmy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ForTripping Posted June 25, 2012 Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 I'd be beyond shocked if Girgensons sniffs the roster this season, or even next season really. I think he's 2 (maybe 3) full seasons away from making any kind of an impact. I'm assuming 1-2 at Vermont and 1 in Rochester. McKenzie said he felt that he is at least ready for the A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RazielSabre Posted June 25, 2012 Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 This kid is made for Buffalo, multiple websites saying that his attitude is just made for the Sabres. We did really well over the draft and I think it bodes well for the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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