Quinn Hughes traded to Minnesota

[JohnC]

4 hours ago, mjd1001 said:

Is Hughes as good as Dahlin (or better or worse?)

How would everyone feel if Buffalo had a new GM and  traded Dahlin for that return?

It would be a big mistake. With a Dahlin trade you are essentially signaling that you will be going through another rebuild. That will likely mean that Tuch and Tage will also make it clear that they will also want out. And it wouldn't be a surprise if Tuch is in that category already. 

[French Collection]

2 hours ago, Jorcus said:

Hughes is not as good a two way player as Dahlin. He is like Makar, smaller super skilled D man that use that speed and skill to get the puck where it needs to go

I don’t consider Hughes a Dman even though he won a Norris. It’s the Art Ross trophy for Dmen. I don’t think we’ll ever see a Rod Langway type win it again but I prefer an all round Dman to a rover. An example is Doughty in his prime. He would lead the offense, hit, block shots and take on the opponents’ toughest matchups.
 

Hughes puts up excellent offensive numbers and is a PP QB you dream of. He looks like Bryson, in his own end without the puck.

[PASabreFan]

48 minutes ago, JohnC said:

It would be a big mistake. With a Dahlin trade you are essentially signaling that you will be going through another rebuild. That will likely mean that Tuch and Tage will also make it clear that they will also want out. And it wouldn't be a surprise if Tuch is in that category already. 

Oh, no!

[Jorcus]

17 minutes ago, French Collection said:

I don’t consider Hughes a Dman even though he won a Norris. It’s the Art Ross trophy for Dmen. I don’t think we’ll ever see a Rod Langway type win it again but I prefer an all round Dman to a rover. An example is Doughty in his prime. He would lead the offense, hit, block shots and take on the opponents’ toughest matchups.
 

Hughes puts up excellent offensive numbers and is a PP QB you dream of. He looks like Bryson, in his own end without the puck.

I found this from an old HF board thread in 2023.

Dahlin - 5 inches, 22 pounds, shot velocity, reach, physicality
Quinn - brain size, edgework, vision

 

If Hughes is worth 4 prime assets is Power worth 3 if he were on the block? Not that I am advocating for it but I think given what teams are willing to pay for a PP QB  his value is higher than what many might think it is.  

[Pimlach]

34 minutes ago, French Collection said:

I don’t consider Hughes a Dman even though he won a Norris. It’s the Art Ross trophy for Dmen. I don’t think we’ll ever see a Rod Langway type win it again but I prefer an all round Dman to a rover. An example is Doughty in his prime. He would lead the offense, hit, block shots and take on the opponents’ toughest matchups.
 

Hughes puts up excellent offensive numbers and is a PP QB you dream of. He looks like Bryson, in his own end without the puck.

Like Erik Karlsson, I think Quinn Huges is a bit overrated, even with his Norris Trophy, his game lacks on the defensive side.  

He is flashy and he is fantastic on the offensive part of the game.  I see that.  

When it’s playoff time I prefer defensemen like Ekblad and Slavin.  

[Flashsabre]

[SabreFinn]

Due to some finnish sources Sabres was also in the Quinn Hughes race, can't be right, right??

[PerreaultForever]

10 hours ago, SabreFinn said:

I think the Hughes trade is the start of a major rebuild in Vancouver,  which means they could retain a big part of EP40s salary, if they get a good return. 

Oh I think it's definitely a tear down rebuild/tank now. They knew Hughes would walk in a year and a half and I think they knew if they waited until next year they would get less as other teams would know they were up against it and would try to lowball them. Reinhart type returns at best. I would guess they were being offered 3 big pieces and then Minnesota jumped in with 4 and that was tche4 best they could get. Young guys to fill out the roster while they tank and rebuild and maybe given ice time those guys still develop. Ohgren played with Rosen or Östlund didn't he? Same level. A lot of people are high on Buium. Skilled but he has defensive issues. I think at best he's a Byram type. It's not a great return but really, I can't see how they could get more on a player who would have walked 100%. 

 

[LGR4GM]

Östlund and Ohgren were on the same line, yes. 

[Brawndo]

1 hour ago, SabreFinn said:

Due to some finnish sources Sabres was also in the Quinn Hughes race, can't be right, right??

Pierre LeBrun mentioned the same thing 

[Brawndo]

4 hours ago, tom webster said:

Colorado, Dallas and Minnesota will beat upeach other in the first two rounds for at least the next two years.

Based on the defenseman in that division the Central should be renamed the Norris Division 

[LGR4GM]

1 hour ago, Brawndo said:

Pierre LeBrun mentioned the same thing 

... how many lhd do we need? Adams need to gtfo, he's just collecting things hoping it might work. He's got no imagination and no ideas of his own. 

[Mr. MVP]

5 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

... how many lhd do we need? Adams need to gtfo, he's just collecting things hoping it might work. He's got no imagination and no ideas of his own. 

My guess is maybe Power was part of the offer?  Maybe? 

[tom webster]

8 minutes ago, Mr. MVP said:

My guess is maybe Power was part of the offer?  Maybe? 

Vancouver had interest in Byram as well.

[Sabres73]

10 hours ago, mjd1001 said:

Is Hughes as good as Dahlin (or better or worse?)

How would everyone feel if Buffalo had a new GM and  traded Dahlin for that return?

They're both very good, and I'm a big Dahlin fan, but Hughes is a bit better. He's won the Norris in 2024.

[HumanSlinky39]

22 hours ago, The Jokeman said:

Wonder if Vancouver move EP40? I know many booed at thought last season but we still could use a 1C and why not?

Want no part of that player or contract. Immensely skilled, but fragile mentally, and prone to sulking. That's the LAST thing this outfit needs.

Good for Minnesota. Great hockey market, glad to see them do well. They seem to be coming out the other side of the Parisi/Suter buyouts just fine and didn't have to tank to do it. Shows what can be done with a competent GM. 

[HumanSlinky39]

19 hours ago, SabresBillsFan said:

They ain’t winning a Cup

Probably not, but they have a better shot now.

They have 2 elite forwards in Kaprizov and Boldy.

A solid D-corps led by Faber and now Quinn.

Elite goaltending.

They're weak down the middle, but a strong blue line and elite goaltending can make up for a lot.

[inkman]

6 hours ago, PASabreFan said:

Oh, no!

I’m still not convinced that Tage and Dahlin aren’t part of the problem 

[PromoTheRobot]

18 hours ago, Stads said:

Does this help Kevyn's chance of survival watching another GM be worse at their job?

Well... 

 

[bunomatic]

So you can make big trades in season.

Who knew🤷🏻‍♂️?

[Scottysabres]

Just now, bunomatic said:

So you can make big trades in season.

Who knew🤷🏻‍♂️?

Looks Kevyn showed interest, they just weren’t interested in Power

[thewookie1]

My guess it has to do with Power/Byram and Tuch

now based on the return Vancouver got, I’d imagine they’ll be still looking at Byram/Power more

2 hours ago, Sabres73 said:

They're both very good, and I'm a big Dahlin fan, but Hughes is a bit better. He's won the Norris in 2024.

I’d disagree, Hughes is a better offensive threat but lacks any physicality whatsoever

[Crusader1969]

13 hours ago, mjd1001 said:

Is Hughes as good as Dahlin (or better or worse?)

How would everyone feel if Buffalo had a new GM and  traded Dahlin for that return?

It would only be good if Dahlin was 100% leaving as a UFA within a year and a half. 

[Crusader1969]

10 hours ago, PASabreFan said:

Sorry, I'm not interested in someone who hasn't made much of an impact on the bottom line. You can lose with or without him.

Tell me, do other fan bases dream of getting Rasmus Dahlin?

Aren't they winless in their last 12 games without him on the lineup? 

0-10-2 to be exact. You can't tell me he isn't a difference maker. 
 

 

Edited 2 hours ago by Crusader1969

[Crusader1969]

9 hours ago, OverPowerYou said:

The wild have done nothing since their existence. They finally have a legit top tier player 

Ummmmm

8 hours ago, JohnC said:

It would be a big mistake. With a Dahlin trade you are essentially signaling that you will be going through another rebuild. That will likely mean that Tuch and Tage will also make it clear that they will also want out. And it wouldn't be a surprise if Tuch is in that category already. 

The Sabres should have Tuch in that category if the ask is 7 years at $11 million plus