BMWR100RT Posted June 6 Report Posted June 6 (edited) 18 hours ago, Gatorman0519 said: Your record is who you are. The Sabres are the worst organization in sports right now besides maybe the NYJ in the NFL. This is an outlier of everything you could do wrong running a franchise in the worst possible way. Hopefully the new guy will bring some sanity. Watching the cup Finals first game in a small market took me back to some brief moments like that as a Sabres fan. My kids are in there 20's and could care less about how far away we are, but I'm just sad about my broken franchise. Edited June 6 by BMWR100RT 1 3 1 Quote
JP51 Posted June 6 Report Posted June 6 12 hours ago, That Aud Smell said: The Colorado Rockies would like a word. Gonna take another 5 or 6 years of misery to enter the Sabres/Jets relm imo LOL... but good call Quote
Thorny Posted June 6 Report Posted June 6 22 hours ago, Gatorman0519 said: Your record is who you are. The Sabres are the worst organization in sports right now besides maybe the NYJ in the NFL. This is an outlier of everything you could do wrong running a franchise in the worst possible way. Hopefully the new guy will bring some sanity. They’ve eclipsed the jets 2 1 Quote
That Aud Smell Posted 10 hours ago Report Posted 10 hours ago There is no reason to think that this isn’t true. Even so. Yowza. https://www.reddit.com/r/sabres/s/nEffSAFN1F 1 1 1 Quote
kas23 Posted 10 hours ago Report Posted 10 hours ago 5 minutes ago, That Aud Smell said: There is no reason to think that this isn’t true. Even so. Yowza. https://www.reddit.com/r/sabres/s/nEffSAFN1F There’s nothing to suggest this is even remotely untrue. Just look at the results and decisions. 1 3 Quote
PromoTheRobot Posted 10 hours ago Report Posted 10 hours ago 11 minutes ago, That Aud Smell said: There is no reason to think that this isn’t true. Even so. Yowza. https://www.reddit.com/r/sabres/s/nEffSAFN1F I listened to that episode today. Just a side note, both Petey and Craig started the show saying they had a bunch of stuff to talk about on the Sabres. They talked about how Petey went to a July 4th party and someone related to Shanny told him this. Then they didn't say anything else. I guess they have trouble remembering what they tease. 🤣 Quote
TheAud Posted 10 hours ago Report Posted 10 hours ago 10 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: I guess they have trouble remembering what they tease. 🤣 It's not so much this, as it is that they are idiots. 1 Quote
That Aud Smell Posted 10 hours ago Report Posted 10 hours ago 18 minutes ago, kas23 said: There’s nothing to suggest this is even remotely untrue. Just look at the results and decisions. what was that anonymous sourced quote a while back? “If I have to call you to get clearance to trade Jokiharu (sp) for a 4th - what are we even doing here?” 1 1 Quote
shrader Posted 10 hours ago Report Posted 10 hours ago I still have no idea what a president of hockey ops even is and how many teams even have one. The blurred lines between a more business oriented president and this position are hard to sort out from team to team. The Sabres need a GM, but I'm not sure they need this. Quote
kas23 Posted 9 hours ago Report Posted 9 hours ago 9 minutes ago, shrader said: I still have no idea what a president of hockey ops even is and how many teams even have one. The blurred lines between a more business oriented president and this position are hard to sort out from team to team. The Sabres need a GM, but I'm not sure they need this. I see them as a more of a quality control guy. They are there to give advice and to veto an idea when they think it would cause irreparable harm to the team. Sort of like the parent of a teenager or young adult. That said, Terry is not qualified for this role. Not even remotely. More like, block a decision that would cause harm to his lifestyle. Quote
Eleven Posted 9 hours ago Report Posted 9 hours ago 42 minutes ago, That Aud Smell said: There is no reason to think that this isn’t true. Even so. Yowza. https://www.reddit.com/r/sabres/s/nEffSAFN1F There's also no reason to believe that it IS true--or that it matters at all. The latter point is more important. The guy is the owner. As I've said before, you can put a ridiculous amount of layers between Adams and Pegula: president of hockey operations; vice presidents of forwards, defensemen, and goaltenders; plenipotentiary in charge of scouting; duke of power play development; whatever: The owner is still the ultimate decision maker in any organization including this one. For example, it's evident from the pattern of negotiations that the Houston Texans' GM wanted to keep DeShaun Watson. But Janice and Cal McNair didn't, so he was gone. Whether Pegula meddles with management of the team is up for reasonable debate. Whether he is entitled to do so isn't. 2 1 Quote
kas23 Posted 8 hours ago Report Posted 8 hours ago 1 hour ago, Eleven said: There's also no reason to believe that it IS true--or that it matters at all. The latter point is more important. The guy is the owner. As I've said before, you can put a ridiculous amount of layers between Adams and Pegula: president of hockey operations; vice presidents of forwards, defensemen, and goaltenders; plenipotentiary in charge of scouting; duke of power play development; whatever: The owner is still the ultimate decision maker in any organization including this one. For example, it's evident from the pattern of negotiations that the Houston Texans' GM wanted to keep DeShaun Watson. But Janice and Cal McNair didn't, so he was gone. Whether Pegula meddles with management of the team is up for reasonable debate. Whether he is entitled to do so isn't. You are arguing that he has every right to act this way. I don’t think anyone is suggesting otherwise. He owns the team. Just like Jerry Jones has made himself the Cowboys GM. He has every right. That said, this doesn’t mean it is the correct thing to do when you are looking to have a successful team. Jerry holds his own, but the Browns are an embarrassment. The Sabres record speaks for how well Terry has (or has not) done as POHO. 1 Quote
PromoTheRobot Posted 8 hours ago Report Posted 8 hours ago 1 hour ago, kas23 said: I see them as a more of a quality control guy. They are there to give advice and to veto an idea when they think it would cause irreparable harm to the team. Sort of like the parent of a teenager or young adult. That said, Terry is not qualified for this role. Not even remotely. More like, block a decision that would cause harm to his lifestyle. 1 hour ago, Eleven said: There's also no reason to believe that it IS true--or that it matters at all. The latter point is more important. The guy is the owner. As I've said before, you can put a ridiculous amount of layers between Adams and Pegula: president of hockey operations; vice presidents of forwards, defensemen, and goaltenders; plenipotentiary in charge of scouting; duke of power play development; whatever: The owner is still the ultimate decision maker in any organization including this one. For example, it's evident from the pattern of negotiations that the Houston Texans' GM wanted to keep DeShaun Watson. But Janice and Cal McNair didn't, so he was gone. Whether Pegula meddles with management of the team is up for reasonable debate. Whether he is entitled to do so isn't. Could it also mean "we have a PoHo in the building?" As in Lindy, Kevy, or Jarmo in the future? Quote
PerreaultForever Posted 3 hours ago Report Posted 3 hours ago 6 hours ago, That Aud Smell said: There is no reason to think that this isn’t true. Even so. Yowza. https://www.reddit.com/r/sabres/s/nEffSAFN1F It certainly feels true doesn't it? Confirmation that Terry is the de facto Director of Hockey Ops really wouldn't surprise anyone here. It's also confirmation of the problem. 1 Quote
That Aud Smell Posted 31 minutes ago Report Posted 31 minutes ago (edited) 9 hours ago, Eleven said: Whether Pegula meddles with management of the team is up for reasonable debate. Sir! Sir! This is absofreakinlutely not up for debate anymore. The other reality here: Terry’s actually more the GM than POHO. Adams is essentially executive assistant to and spox for the GM. Edited 30 minutes ago by That Aud Smell 1 Quote
Weave Posted just now Report Posted just now 30 minutes ago, That Aud Smell said: Sir! Sir! This is absofreakinlutely not up for debate anymore. The other reality here: Terry’s actually more the GM than POHO. Adams is essentially executive assistant to and spox for the GM. So they have an executive assistant, and a senior advisor to the executive assistant. 🤦♂️ Quote
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