Byram has packed up his house and will be moved: After the Whistle

[The Jokeman]

2 hours ago, triumph_communes said:

The Byram trade was great. Mittelstadt is a bust. If we picked a guy with too much of an ego to skill ratio then trade him. Things to be mad about but this isn’t one 

Unless we end up getting some other team's Mittlestadt back when trade Byram.

[pi2000]

18 hours ago, jad1 said:

Not surprising.  Adams admitted that he didn't know where Byram fit in when he traded for him.  Kev has no plan to build a competitve roster aside from gathering shiny nickels.  

When your're offered Byram for Mittlestadt, you take that deal every day of the week... it's a no-brainer.  

[inkman]

28 minutes ago, pi2000 said:

When your're offered Byram for Mittlestadt, you take that deal every day of the week... it's a no-brainer.  

The premise is fine, it’s been the post trade execution that has been the issue.  Honestly, they should have played him with Dahlin all season and traded him for a coveted asset.  Instead they sunk his value giving teams clear visibility to his ineptitude away from a great partner.  

[7+6=13]

2 hours ago, Pimlach said:

@7+6=13

Please stop with your eyerolls.   You recently said you would ignore me but I am seeing more negative emoji's the past few days.  

When you do this it comes off as antagonistic and next will be the insults.  

If you disagree with my comments try instead to make a viable and compelling counterpoint.   If you do not have anything substantial to offer then go back to ignoring me.   

I agreed to ignore you and you offered that you would too.  YOU broke the agreement, you hypocrite.

Save your thumbs down and heed your own rhetoric.

[JoeSchmoe]

18 hours ago, jad1 said:

Not surprising.  Adams admitted that he didn't know where Byram fit in when he traded for him.  Kev has no plan to build a competitve roster aside from gathering shiny nickels.  

Adams knew Byram's value. The value was that he was not on an expiring contract whereas Mittelstadt was up for a pay raise... I.e. he saved Terry a few $mill for the all important yacht, while placating the fan base into thinking that the trade might make sense in a few years time.

Another in a long list of shrewd moves by Adams that's kept him in a job despite 5 years with no playoffs.

[inkman]

1 minute ago, JoeSchmoe said:

Adams knew Byram's value. The value was that he was not on an expiring contract whereas Mittelstadt was up for a pay raise... I.e. he saved Terry a few $mill for the all important yacht, while placating the fan base into thinking that the trade might make sense in a few years time.

Another in a long list of shrewd moves by Adams that's kept him in a job despite 5 years with no playoffs.

I’m very discouraged at the thought of all of Adam’s moves may have ulterior motives regarding finances.  Many have intimated that hockey ops has no cash flow and they operate like destitute hobos, now I’m starting to wonder myself.  The kicker would be hearing Staal was brought in with no salary.  I’ll just stop paying attention all together. 

[Pimlach]

1 hour ago, 7+6=13 said:

I agreed to ignore you and you offered that you would too.  YOU broke the agreement, you hypocrite.

Save your thumbs down and heed your own rhetoric.

Wrong again.  There you go with the name calling.  

You broke the agreement this Monday, May 5th at 12:47 and at 12:51 with you two eyerolls in the Friedman Thread, which is now shut down. 

I "thumbs downed" you after that for insulting another poster, something you do all the time.   Two other posters also had an adverse reaction to your response.  

Check the tickets .... 

Can you admit your are wrong?  

Edited Wednesday at 06:38 PM by Pimlach

[triumph_communes]

3 hours ago, Pimlach said:

This has nothing to do with Byram's ego to skill ratio.   He wants to play a big role, and he wants to lead a PP.   I want a guy like that.    The problem the Sabres have right now is the money tied up on defense already due to the foolish contracts given to Muel and Power.   

This was talked about after the trade was made.  We traded our best two way center at the time (Mitts) for a rental.  One year after the trade it is clear we got the better player, but in typical Sabres fashion they can't or won't fit him in. 

It is an issue because you can only have so many egos like that on a roster, just like you point out. Not all players have an ego and an ego isn’t mandatory to be an elite competitor. But it often goes hand in hand 
 

Mittelstadt is a bust. He was cast off from a good team after failing to slot into the role. He championed the Bruins tank. Imagine if he was still here, scary. 

Edited Wednesday at 06:04 PM by triumph_communes

[shrader]

17 minutes ago, Pimlach said:

Wrong again.  There you go with the name calling.  

You broke the agreement this Monday, May 5th at 12:47 and at 12:51 with you two eyerolls in the Friedman Thread, which is now shut down. 

I "thumbs downed" you after that for insulting another poster?    Something you do all the time.  

Check the tickets .... 

Can you admit your are wrong?  

There are things called private messages.  Sometimes those are better.  And I'm only responding to you since you are the most recent post in this exchange.

[French Collection]

6 hours ago, inkman said:

The kicker would be hearing Staal was brought in with no salary

That’s what he deserves, call it an internship.

[Doohickie]

4 hours ago, The Jokeman said:

Unless we end up getting Mittlestadt back when trade Byram.

fify

[mjd1001]

If everyone is so sure Byram is better than Power (he might be), then the league should know that and they should get a better return, especially considering he's not locked into a big deal like power.

[dudacek]

Byram has switched agents.

He’s dumped Kevin EPP (Juuse Saros, Peyton Krebs) and signed with Mitch Marner’s rep Daren Ferris, who also did Philip Broberg’s offer sheet escape from Edmonton.

He gone.

Edited 7 hours ago by dudacek

[thewookie1]

1 minute ago, dudacek said:

Byram has switched agents.

He’s dumped Kevin EPP (Juuse Saros, Peyton Krebs) and signed with Mitch Marner’s rep Daren Ferris, who also did Philip Broberg’s offer sheet escape from Edmonton.

He gone.

Pretty much, joined the agent who cares only about the money

[LGR4GM]

13 minutes ago, dudacek said:

Byram has switched agents.

He’s dumped Kevin EPP (Juuse Saros, Peyton Krebs) and signed with Mitch Marner’s rep Daren Ferris, who also did Philip Broberg’s offer sheet escape from Edmonton.

He gone.

Which teams are either old on defense or just lack defense in general?

[Mr. Allen]

11 minutes ago, thewookie1 said:

Pretty much, joined the agent who cares only about the money

Buh bye.  Hopefully we get a solid return for him.  

[Huckleberry]

4 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

Which teams are either old on defense or just lack defense in general?

Sharks,  missing out on Schaeffer could make them offersheet Byram - And in this case I would gamble and let him go.

[dudacek]

11 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

Which teams are either old on defense or just lack defense in general?

Calgary, Philadelphia, San Jose, Chicago, Nashville has Josi but he’s old and there’s no one else, Utah needs LD.

 

Edited 7 hours ago by dudacek

[Archie Lee]

35 minutes ago, Huckleberry said:

Sharks,  missing out on Schaeffer could make them offersheet Byram - And in this case I would gamble and let him go.

Maybe I don't understand how offer-sheets work. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but my understanding is that in order to offer-sheet Byram in the $7-8 million range (what it would take to get him, I would think), the team making the offer would need to have their 1st, 2nd, and 3rd rd picks in 2026, since that would be the cost. I don't think any team that has more than a 50/50 chance of missing the playoffs this coming season, is going to give up their 2026 1st for Byram.  Also, the Sharks don't currently have their 3rd in 2026.

Edited 6 hours ago by Archie Lee

[LGR4GM]

37 minutes ago, dudacek said:

Calgary, Philadelphia, San Jose, Chicago, Nashville has Josi but he’s old and there’s no one else, Utah needs LD.

 

There's your list.

[DarthEbriate]

If any of Philly, San Jose, Chicago, Nashville, or Pitt is foolish enough to offer sheet Byram with the value of a 2026 1st, you take the pick in a heartbeat. Byram is not turning any of those franchises into a playoff team. Or, you ideally trade before the draft, or you match and then trade the known contract -- but then you'd better have him on the top pair with Dahlin to increase his value as much as possible.

[LGR4GM]

5 minutes ago, DarthEbriate said:

If any of Philly, San Jose, Chicago, Nashville, or Pitt is foolish enough to offer sheet Byram with the value of a 2026 1st, you take the pick in a heartbeat. Byram is not turning any of those franchises into a playoff team. Or, you ideally trade before the draft, or you match and then trade the known contract -- but then you'd better have him on the top pair with Dahlin to increase his value as much as possible.

The question is what assets of these teams would help Buffalo. That's the starting place. 

[Jorcus]

8 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

There's your list.

I would add Kracken, Jackets and Bruins to that list. Push come to shove we don't want the picks we want a player so a trade better be in the works. 

[French Collection]

4 hours ago, dudacek said:

Calgary, Philadelphia, San Jose, Chicago, Nashville has Josi but he’s old and there’s no one else, Utah needs LD.

 

If Rasmus Andersson had more than 1 year until UFA status, I would like to see him as a RHD coming back. He would fit the bill as a top 4.

[dudacek]

4 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

There's your list.

I think it will be larger due to contract and chemistry situations. There are lots of teams who will see him as an upgrade to their current #3 over the next 7 years.

Guys like Byram aren’t available that often. GMs will be fishing to see if they can make it fit.