LGR4GM Posted April 23 Author Report Share Posted April 23 Yikes Quote But the job is to minimize that risk, and they just hired a coach whose teams have averaged 92.7 points per 82 in the salary-cap era. https://eprinkside.com/2024/04/22/arrival-of-lindy-ruff-only-raises-more-questions-than-answers-for-buffalo-sabres This is so on point it hurts. Quote If I were a Sabres fan, I would also be terrified by the lack of imagination here; in much the same way that there was a perception Adams was hired to run the team because he was just kinda around the office that day, it's hard to shake the feeling that this is at least a little bit sleight of hand: "Remember when we were making the playoffs regularly? This guy was the coach! Don't look up how many times his teams made the playoffs since then! Or how many times we made the playoffs in that same time!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triumph_communes Posted April 23 Report Share Posted April 23 If I remember right, Ruff games were lots of early leads that would become hold the fort scenarios that relied upon good defense and goaltending. Always wished they tried to run things up, but it’s a long season. Almost polar opposite to what we have now. Let’s hope the middle ground is the landing spot… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted April 23 Author Report Share Posted April 23 1 minute ago, triumph_communes said: If I remember right, Ruff games were lots of early leads that would become hold the fort scenarios that relied upon good defense and goaltending. Always wished they tried to run things up, but it’s a long season. Almost polar opposite to what we have now. Let’s hope the middle ground is the landing spot… Alamo mode is back! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MISabresFan Posted April 23 Report Share Posted April 23 15 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: Yikes https://eprinkside.com/2024/04/22/arrival-of-lindy-ruff-only-raises-more-questions-than-answers-for-buffalo-sabres This is so on point it hurts. The key (from the article) to all this, finding the correct people or person. Bills have Josh, Beane and Sean. Sabers have what? Young prospects including a goalie.? Sabers appear to be put together from the boys club. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted April 23 Report Share Posted April 23 33 minutes ago, JustOneParade said: Here's my simple take on things, FWIW. Lindy would have gotten this year's team into the playoffs, but no further than the first round. The roster needs work to get beyond that point going forward. That would have been enough to get my group to renew our season tickets. And probably a lot of others too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demoted Posted April 23 Report Share Posted April 23 59 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: So is this 1-2 years of Adams experiment and then Lindy takes over as GM? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashsabre Posted April 23 Report Share Posted April 23 People say “how many times did he make the playoffs in Dallas and NJ?” But what was the state of Dallas when he took over and the state of the devils when he took over?” He built both lowly clubs up to get into the playoffs. You could take prime Scotty Bowman and put him behind the bench of the SJ Sharks the past two years and say “ Well he missed the playoffs the past two years.” This roster is ready to compete (and Adams better improve it this summer) so it is a different situation Lindy is walking into. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted April 23 Report Share Posted April 23 A 2-year deal? That's interesting, actually. You hear that coaches don't want to be lame ducks. Isn't that what happened with Granato when he got extended in early 2023 through 2025-2026? Lindy will start out in the penultimate year of his deal. Hmm. Bets being hedged? On both sides? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted April 23 Report Share Posted April 23 2 minutes ago, Flashsabre said: People say “how many times did he make the playoffs in Dallas and NJ?” But what was the state of Dallas when he took over and the state of the devils when he took over?” He built both lowly clubs up to get into the playoffs. You could take prime Scotty Bowman and put him behind the bench of the SJ Sharks the past two years and say “ Well he missed the playoffs the past two years.” This roster is ready to compete (and Adams better improve it this summer) so it is a different situation Lindy is walking into. Despite the Appert succession plan rumors I really believe that Adams just hired his new boss. Because if this goes exceedingly well Lindy will still be employed by the org in some senior advisor/POHO role. And if this thing fails, Lindy will be leading the search for a new GM and Adams is out the door. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustOneParade Posted April 23 Report Share Posted April 23 4 minutes ago, That Aud Smell said: A 2-year deal? That's interesting, actually. You hear that coaches don't want to be lame ducks. Isn't that what happened with Granato when he got extended in early 2023 through 2025-2026? Lindy will start out in the penultimate year of his deal. Hmm. Bets being hedged? On both sides? Or maybe Lindy announces at his presser today that he's signed an extension that kicks in for the '26/27 season. 😄 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted April 23 Report Share Posted April 23 I would bet the house that Lindy has been promised a FO position if either he decides after two years he is done as a HC, or the progress is just not there. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted April 23 Report Share Posted April 23 2 hours ago, inkman said: Or Karmanos. Not bad for a yes man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triumph_communes Posted April 23 Report Share Posted April 23 Or it means the owner is being cheap and Lindy was the only coach willing to only take a 2 year deal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted April 23 Report Share Posted April 23 2 hours ago, dudacek said: Arbour has zero loser points, Lindy 153. Doesn’t show how many OT wins he had. I agree that career winning percentage isn’t great proof of a coach’s ability. And I agree with your point, even if it wasn’t the one I was trying to make. Mine was that it’s kinda like ranking goalies based on the same stat. Too many underlying variables. Just for the record, I don’t care one bit about the loser points. Those are ties. The shoot out win is the phony point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kristian Posted April 23 Report Share Posted April 23 At least he has NHL experience, so I guess in that sense, the franchise is moving forward… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted April 23 Report Share Posted April 23 20 minutes ago, That Aud Smell said: A 2-year deal? That's interesting, actually. You hear that coaches don't want to be lame ducks. Isn't that what happened with Granato when he got extended in early 2023 through 2025-2026? Lindy will start out in the penultimate year of his deal. Hmm. Bets being hedged? On both sides? I wonder what was remaining on his deal with the Devils. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted April 23 Report Share Posted April 23 1 minute ago, triumph_communes said: Or it means the owner is being cheap and Lindy was the only coach willing to only take a 2 year deal. Or Appert will join as Lindy's assistant and future HC. Ruff retires or joins FO. 51 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: Yikes https://eprinkside.com/2024/04/22/arrival-of-lindy-ruff-only-raises-more-questions-than-answers-for-buffalo-sabres This is so on point it hurts. Almost like you wrote it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted April 23 Report Share Posted April 23 7 minutes ago, shrader said: I wonder what was remaining on his deal with the Devils. Good question. I'd guess no more than 2. There should be (?) setoff/offset language in the Devils' contract (i.e., no double dippin'). Also: Shoutout to a DEAL WITH THE DEVIL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted April 23 Report Share Posted April 23 9 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: Or Appert will join as Lindy's assistant and future HC. Ruff retires or joins FO. Almost like you wrote it. It’s subscription so I can only read the first few lines. That said, Lambert has always been a douche daring back to his college days. The first line at that link shows to me that he’s still that douche. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted April 23 Report Share Posted April 23 1 minute ago, That Aud Smell said: Good question. I'd guess no more than 2. There should be (?) setoff/offset language in the Devils' contract (i.e., no double dippin'). Also: Shoutout to a DEAL WITH THE DEVIL. Yeah, no double dipping, but I have no idea what a two year deal does if you have more than two years remaining. I assume the original team is still on the hook for those extra years, but that’s just a guess. Lawyerese confuses me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted April 23 Report Share Posted April 23 1 minute ago, shrader said: Yeah, no double dipping, but I have no idea what a two year deal does if you have more than two years remaining. I assume the original team is still on the hook for those extra years, but that’s just a guess. Lawyerese confuses me. Gotcha. I'd be surprised if Lindy had 3 or more years left on his Devils deal. My guess is that a no double dipping clause would, if carefully drafted, anticipate a scenario where the remaining term on a Devils deal could outlast the term on a subsequent deal (and then likewise wipe out the Devils' obligation to pay in that event). YMMV, as @Taro T often says. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthEbriate Posted April 23 Report Share Posted April 23 1 hour ago, dudacek said: That is an exceptional Tweet in relation to what the team did this year. As @Thorny has been pointing out, Sabres PR has become pretty sharp. And this is the key. Fix the critical issues that crushed the Oreo up (autocorrect “previous” but too good to delete), without exposing entirely new ones. Will Ruff and his staff get the team to show up in the first, get the power play to average (with all the top-first-round talent), and gain some structure defensively still with a bunch of kids on the blue line? Do that, and you may make the playoffs. But it’s not all on the staff. TNT, Cozens, Krebs, ??… that’s not a playoff-caliber center spine. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob_sauve28 Posted April 23 Report Share Posted April 23 49 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: Alamo mode is back! I think we have the players to do that now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthEbriate Posted April 23 Report Share Posted April 23 53 minutes ago, triumph_communes said: If I remember right, Ruff games were lots of early leads that would become hold the fort scenarios that relied upon good defense and goaltending. Always wished they tried to run things up, but it’s a long season. Almost polar opposite to what we have now. Let’s hope the middle ground is the landing spot… Curiously, they’ve been very solid hanging onto leads the last couple seasons because they’ve been good at transition and punishing teams that open up. Start strong, then finish them, pad the stats, and play your goal songs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broken Ankles Posted April 23 Report Share Posted April 23 2 hours ago, dudacek said: I think it’s kinda interesting that career winning percentage is being used as a mark against Lindy. Here are 10 of his peers: Darryl Sutter .498 Pat Burns .492 Pat Quinn .489 Jacques Lemaire .489 Lindy Ruff .487 Al Arbour .487 Mike Keenan .485 John Torterella .480 Dick Irvin .477 Paul Maurice .470 And for fun: Punch Imlach .452 Can’t believe @Pimlach didn’t take umbrage to this comment. “Keep my Avatars name, out your mouth”. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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