PerreaultForever Posted June 16, 2023 Report Share Posted June 16, 2023 10 hours ago, French Collection said: I don’t want my players blocking every shot possible in the regular season. There is too much risk for injury with that mindset. I think they need to gauge the situation and act accordingly. It’s not really a switch you can turn off and on but more along the lines of the 80% effort of the regular season. 1 or 2 goal lead in the third period, maybe block the shot. A win in October is as important as March. Safely in the playoffs with two games to play, maybe let the goalie take it. idk, you have to learn to play a certain way and it becomes instinctive for them. Players definitely can give it more in the playoffs but to some extent you either are a shot blocker or you're not. Injuries happen on D, that's why you need depth. I personally think you should play the right way (and block shots) all year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted June 16, 2023 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2023 45 minutes ago, dudacek said: We thinking that when we do a checklist of what this D needs there aren’t many NHLers who tick more boxes than Pesce. He played at the USNTDP when Granato was there, it’s gotta happen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashsabre Posted June 16, 2023 Report Share Posted June 16, 2023 (edited) 36 minutes ago, French Collection said: I never thought of him because I always assumed he was a fixture in Carolina. I have liked his game whenever I watched them play. I wonder why he may be on the market, he is an important part of their D corps. I see that their D prospects include Alexander Nikishin, a 2020 pick who has done well in the KHL and was on the top pairing for SKA St Petersburg. Scott Morrow is a second rounder in 2021 in the NCAA. Another 2nd rounder in 2021 is Aleksi Heimosalmi. Carolina sets a price on a guy and that is it. They won’t go over. He just changed agents for a new deal. He has 1 year left at $4 million then he is a UFA. They also have Aho coming up and that is going to be a massive deal. Edited June 16, 2023 by Flashsabre 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
French Collection Posted June 16, 2023 Report Share Posted June 16, 2023 1 hour ago, Flashsabre said: Carolina sets a price on a guy and that is it. They won’t go over. He just changed agents for a new deal. He has 1 year left at $4 million then he is a UFA. They also have Aho coming up and that is going to be a massive deal. KA and his analytics guys set a price on guys too. If Pesce is their guy then I hope they can meet his demands. I wonder who goes the other way, someone mentioned a first rounder, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottysabres Posted June 16, 2023 Report Share Posted June 16, 2023 2 hours ago, Brawndo said: He played at the USNTDP when Granato was there, it’s gotta happen Cost, not in the trade but his extension. With Dahlin and Power due up, how much is KA willing to dump in to D cap wise? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triumph_communes Posted June 16, 2023 Report Share Posted June 16, 2023 Peace is good but I’m not so eager to pay a premium just to pay him a large contract 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zamboni Posted June 16, 2023 Report Share Posted June 16, 2023 10 minutes ago, triumph_communes said: Peace is good but I’m not so eager to pay a premium just to pay him a large contract Give peace a chance 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
French Collection Posted June 16, 2023 Report Share Posted June 16, 2023 Interesting how guys develop. Pesce was cut from the USA World Junior team in 2014. Will Butcher made the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAud Posted June 16, 2023 Report Share Posted June 16, 2023 33 minutes ago, Zamboni said: Give peace a chance 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottysabres Posted June 16, 2023 Report Share Posted June 16, 2023 1 hour ago, TheAud said: If my Peas are growing hair, no chance! 😀 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted June 16, 2023 Report Share Posted June 16, 2023 Justin Faulk in St. Louis was a name Biron tossed out. Signed for 4 more years, at 6.5 mil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalonill Posted June 16, 2023 Report Share Posted June 16, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: Justin Faulk in St. Louis was a name Biron tossed out. Signed for 4 more years, at 6.5 mil. Don't we have enough of his type on buffalo I would hope they get A physical defenseman that just stays home Edited June 16, 2023 by Buffalonill 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted June 16, 2023 Report Share Posted June 16, 2023 5 minutes ago, Buffalonill said: Don't we have enough of his type on buffalo I would hope they get A physical defenseman that just stays home Good right handed defenders who are 2way defenders? No, we have none actually. Maybe Jokiharju kinda but not really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted June 16, 2023 Report Share Posted June 16, 2023 Shayna on Sabres Live thinks we should go after Carson Soucy who is a UFA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted June 16, 2023 Report Share Posted June 16, 2023 6 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: Shayna on Sabres Live thinks we should go after Carson Soucy who is a UFA. There seems to be a lot of options out there and you get the sense Adams is leaving no stone unturned. I think filling that number 4 spot has been a huge priority and they’ve done a done of work identifying what’s needed and the best available fits. Really curious who their top targets are and how much they are willing to pay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt Posted June 16, 2023 Report Share Posted June 16, 2023 29 minutes ago, Buffalonill said: Don't we have enough of his type on buffalo I would hope they get A physical defenseman that just stays home What kind of player do you think Faulk is? He isn’t purely a stay at home guy, but he is good defensively and physical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalonill Posted June 16, 2023 Report Share Posted June 16, 2023 38 minutes ago, Curt said: What kind of player do you think Faulk is? He isn’t purely a stay at home guy, but he is good defensively and physical. He's no Samuelsson And that's what Buffalo needs 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted June 16, 2023 Report Share Posted June 16, 2023 26 minutes ago, Buffalonill said: He's no Samuelsson And that's what Buffalo needs This is just narrow minded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerreaultForever Posted June 16, 2023 Report Share Posted June 16, 2023 14 hours ago, French Collection said: KA and his analytics guys set a price on guys too. If Pesce is their guy then I hope they can meet his demands. I wonder who goes the other way, someone mentioned a first rounder, I wouldn't be surprised if Carolina wants a first. They dumped DeAngelo for a 2nd a third and a 4th so they'll want more for Pesce and if Edmonton is also bidding the final price will be high. We have the draft capital to do it though and assuming it involves a long term signing it locks up a solid top 4 (assuming Dahlin signs). When we look back on that top 4 grouping years from now nobody's going to care how many or which picks we gave away. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerreaultForever Posted June 16, 2023 Report Share Posted June 16, 2023 1 hour ago, LGR4GM said: Shayna on Sabres Live thinks we should go after Carson Soucy who is a UFA. An upgrade but not the best plan. This one should be a plan B or even plan C if other better deals don't happen. Soucy is inconsistent and ended up 3rd pairing at the end of the year. Borgen outplayed him (just for a point of reference). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted June 16, 2023 Report Share Posted June 16, 2023 1 hour ago, PerreaultForever said: I wouldn't be surprised if Carolina wants a first. They dumped DeAngelo for a 2nd a third and a 4th so they'll want more for Pesce and if Edmonton is also bidding the final price will be high. We have the draft capital to do it though and assuming it involves a long term signing it locks up a solid top 4 (assuming Dahlin signs). When we look back on that top 4 grouping years from now nobody's going to care how many or which picks we gave away. If an extension is part of the deal I can probably, albeit reluctantly, live with giving up #13 for Pesce, although I'd much prefer #39 and next year's first-rounder. I totally agree that securing a strong top 4 for the foreseeable future is a very attractive proposition. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashsabre Posted June 16, 2023 Report Share Posted June 16, 2023 https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/canucks-planning-to-buy-out-defenceman-oliver-ekman-larssons-contract/ OEL being bought out. One of the worst trades in history. Number 9+ for OEL and Garland. One year later they are buying OEL out and can’t give Garland away for free. That said, what are OEL’s metrics like? OEL-Dahlin Power-Muel Could be a nice top 4 fora few years and you can sign him for free now. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthEbriate Posted June 16, 2023 Report Share Posted June 16, 2023 39 minutes ago, Flashsabre said: https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/canucks-planning-to-buy-out-defenceman-oliver-ekman-larssons-contract/ OEL being bought out. One of the worst trades in history. Number 9+ for OEL and Garland. One year later they are buying OEL out and can’t give Garland away for free. That said, what are OEL’s metrics like? OEL-Dahlin Power-Muel Could be a nice top 4 fora few years and you can sign him for free now. OEL is not a top 4 anymore. He would be a vet minimum reclamation project as a signing, which is fine, but you don't want him anywhere near Dahlin or Power and their assignments or minutes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted June 16, 2023 Report Share Posted June 16, 2023 (edited) Will be interesting to see how this unfolds, both in terms of who we get at D and who we get at G. Was listening to Marek’s show and he mentioned he doesn’t expect any big moves from Adams. Says the Sabres are the draft and develop team and that this is very much a slow play from Adams, emphasis on slow. His words, not mine. On the other hand, we hear a lot of rumours he’s kicking tires on guys. In my estimation it’s likely both: it’s not that KA is opposed to outside additions (Chychrun, etc), he just appears to be very hard-line re: cost. Ie we either see great value trades, or no trades at all. I don’t think we make any deals that don’t look like immediate wins on paper, asset compared against asset. Ie it’s not an ends (addressing roster holes) justify the means (what we give up) situation: we are still prioritizing coming out on the right side of value in-value out equations. - - - Just as a random tangent Marek also mentioned he was very surprised UPL wasn’t a part of Rochester for the playoff run. Said it was because the Sabres have decided UPL is an NHL goalie. Edited June 16, 2023 by Thorny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt Posted June 16, 2023 Report Share Posted June 16, 2023 48 minutes ago, Flashsabre said: https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/canucks-planning-to-buy-out-defenceman-oliver-ekman-larssons-contract/ OEL being bought out. One of the worst trades in history. Number 9+ for OEL and Garland. One year later they are buying OEL out and can’t give Garland away for free. That said, what are OEL’s metrics like? OEL-Dahlin Power-Muel Could be a nice top 4 fora few years and you can sign him for free now. Yeah, no. His play has really tailed off the pas few years. He probably isn’t a top-4 guy anymore, at least not for a good team. He is about to turn 32, so I’m not too confident that he will be able to turn things around. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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